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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on July 18, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
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I was sitting here last night looking at a frontal shot of a P-51D on my desktop which got me to thinking. Why don't we ever see prop damage other than if you land with gear up? While I understand the likelyhood is small, with all those enemy bullets whizzing through the prop arc surely over the nine years I've been here my prop would have been damaged at least once, especially with all the HOs that go on.
Anyone know what the rl propensity of this happening was?
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wel on the planes with metal props, I couldnt see this happening, but I guess If they were wood it would be possible
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With the speeds involved in a prop/bullet collision, I imagine that it would create one heck of a bang to say the least, in real life?
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Usually if I hit someone all up and down their nose, it ends up that their engine goes out. This might be a simulation but without all the flashy bullet holes in your prop.
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I think it's one of those things you don't hear about because if it was catastrophic there was no one to tell the tale.
The instances I have heard of bullet holes through props, no one noticed until they were down and the blades weren't turning any more.
...unless you hit a tree or something, and we have that now.
wrongway
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wel on the planes with metal props, I couldnt see this happening,
Bullets often put holes even into metal props... unfortunately, this changed the balance of the prop and often caused all kinds of oscillations, particularly noticeable in single engine birds.
I think it's one of those things you don't hear about because if it was catastrophic there was no one to tell the tale.
There is an A20 prop in a museum near me that has many holes in it from a Me109. The tips were also bent back as the A20 hit the water, the weight of what the poor kids went through really strikes home when you see the prop.
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I think what we have to remember in the game is coding, graphics intensity, and overall performance of the game.
Right now if you watch a replay.. at a particular speed the prop no longer is a solid and visible item in the game. It becomes an almost invisible rotating haze. The prop is no longer a solid "physical" object.
I am willing to bet that in order for them to do what many of you are asking they would need to solidify the prop at least a bit which means your PC would constantly be having to graphically display at solid object rotating at thousands of RPM...
This is obviously only my observation.. as simply watching the replays does not include seeing the actual coding on the prop itself as it stands now, by I am willing to bet I am somewhere close in my statement to the truth.
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See rule #4
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Removed for quote of #4
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Removed for quote of #4
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See rule #4
Out of order Admins... That was a genuine comment, and in no way a rule 4, i wish it back on the record.
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Stand by for hitechpwn
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Out of order Admins... That was a genuine comment, and in no way a rule 4, i wish it back on the record.
The entire purpose of that post was to insult HTC because we do not wish to implement something you desire.
If you have any other question feel free to send a PM. But it is not an issue to be discussed on this forum.
HiTech
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Stand by for hitechpwn
Wow. :O
You're good.
wrongway
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:huh
Er no, it was a genuine thought, HTC can't make Mirrors viable, therefore the coding for such a request of Bullets Collecting Props would also be unviable.
Not a flame on HTC coding talent of something i'm neutral to. Still not a rule 4, you sir have misunderstood and acted in haste.
Also the 2 quotes refreshed the memory and did not seek to rule 4 either.
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Wow. :O
You're good.
wrongway
Oh come on Wrongway, Helen Keller could have seen THAT one coming :D
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I thINK the Hammer will fall shortly!
<S> Oz
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We may add this effect at some point, basically the plane would start shaking violently, possibly loose engine if throttle is not reduced.
Also I have personal experience with this effect. Was cruising nicely at 8500 on a cross country,suddenly I hear the loudest bang I care to hear in an airplane followed by the plane shaking violently. My spinner decided to disintegrate, leaving pieces of the back plate still attached and hence greatly out of balance. You would not believe how quickly you can pull a throttle back, of course that make the engine stop do to lean mixture at cruise.
HiTech
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Also I have personal experience with this effect. Was cruising nicely at 8500 on a cross country,suddenly I hear the loudest bang I care to hear in an airplane followed by the plane shaking violently. My spinner decided to disintegrate, leaving pieces of the back plate still attached and hence greatly out of balance. You would not believe how quickly you can pull a throttle back, of course that make the engine stop do to lean mixture at cruise.
HiTech
Finish the story!
What happened? What airplane? How many engines? Contributing factors? Cause? Remedial actions?
You're leaving us hanging here.
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Finish the story!
What happened? What airplane? How many engines? Contributing factors? Cause? Remedial actions?
You're leaving us hanging here.
I think he survived :P
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I think he survived :P
Nah, he reappeared in the tower.
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Nah, he reappeared in the tower.
Not exactly, AckAck and Grizz picked him, then he disappeared to tower. :D
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We may add this effect at some point, basically the plane would start shaking violently, possibly loose engine if throttle is not reduced.
Also I have personal experience with this effect. Was cruising nicely at 8500 on a cross country,suddenly I hear the loudest bang I care to hear in an airplane followed by the plane shaking violently. My spinner decided to disintegrate, leaving pieces of the back plate still attached and hence greatly out of balance. You would not believe how quickly you can pull a throttle back, of course that make the engine stop do to lean mixture at cruise.
HiTech
Would be a welcomed addition to the damage model for engines. My “oh sh__” moment came while instructing a student on a night IFR cross county. She had packed a Rubbermaid container with some items she returned to her sister who met us at KDCA. With all the good byes’ said , she placed the now empty sealed Rubbermaid container in the rear compartment , fired up the 182 and got her clearance and taxi instructions. Off we went bound for KBLM. Climbing up to our assigned altitude of 7000 feet. Two things occurred at almost the exact same time as we passed through 6000, a very large bang, followed by a whiff of smoke. We were actual at the time and she was hand flying and doing pretty well until the bang. My initial scan of the engine gages showed all was well with the engine , comms worked, my next thought was about the control cables, perhaps one of them had separated and under the strain had snapped back and made the bang sound. The aircraft was trimmed for a climb and as we approached 7000feet I took a big breath and pushed the yoke forward to lower the nose. We leveled out, the yoke felt normal. I turned on the autopilot and requested a vector to the closest airport which was KSBY. I shot the approach and broke out at 1200 in light rain. At the ramp they pushed us into a hanger and pulled the cowling. In the light of the hanger we discovered the top of the Rubbermaid container in front of the rear seats on the floor, that was the source of the bang, inside the cowling, to far back to be seen during a normal walk around/preflight inspection was a chard mechanics rag, the whiff of smoke.
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Finish the story!
What happened? What airplane? How many engines? Contributing factors? Cause? Remedial actions?
You're leaving us hanging here.
Well shortly after the engine stopped running the shaking stopped (rest of the pieces also decided to go with their friends) at this point the I am much much happier because shaking plane, visions of engine leaving plane were going threw my head.
So now that the shaking is stopped (at this point all I know is a loud bang happened followed by shaking) I push the mixture ahead and engine begins to ideal. Hmm I feel much better now and I do a gauge scan. Nothing showing wrong so I give a little throttle, hmm nothing shaking and I think maybe landing would be a good idea and I press the nearest button (Hearne Texas) about 7 miles out. Proceed direct and on final I noticed somthing doesn't look right, but in my head Im thinking something broke or was hit like landing gear.
Tires go squeak squeak and I feel better. Park the plane and then found what the problem was. Most nervous I ever was in a plane, was the next week when I picked the plane back up form Hearne and flew home. Engine was going into auto rough just like it does over water , the entire flight home.
HiTech
HiTech
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I think he survived :P
You call this living?? :p
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You call this living?? :p
There is a difference between "living" and "survived". Could be brain dead on life support and call it "survived"...or on AH and semi-functional and "survived". :D