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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: BANZAI_SPARKS on August 02, 2010, 12:33:46 PM
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There seems to really be a lack of JP planes in the game.Yet there are several models of P51 and P47.
here is my list.
KI43 oscar
KI44 Tojos both versions
KI84-c Frank nice heavy hitter
J2m the Jack
I think you will find the Tojos and the Ki84c to be Good matches with some us and Gb planes
Best Sparks :airplane:
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It would be a good addition for special events, but for main arena remodeling AH1 planes should come first.
Personally I would like to see the Ki-43 :devil :bolt:
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I personally have been wanting the Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo) for a long time. It is my number one pick for an aircraft to be added to the game. It is also my avatar.
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my wishlist
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
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i like the so called SEA only aircraft and fly them alot in the MA and do well with them and built up a buttload of perks that i will never use killing temps and spits in a 109f4 or 190f8 or zeke lol. I say the more aircraft the better, bring em on.
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There is a whole pile of Japanese aircraft that are lacking in AH.
As much as I would love to see them all I have to wonder if it is the lack of data preventing them from being added.
I've seen pyro's office, (Yes, its cool) and its stacked to the ceiling with books about aircraft.
But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?
So much of that was destroyed in the process of defeating the Japanese.
Granted we have some pilot accounts, but they do not give you weight, wing area, speed, or all the other numbers that to faithfully portray the plane must be "right" not just "fudged".
So while I would love to see a whole raft of Japanese planes added I'm not holding my breath.
I just don't think they have the sources they need to do them justice.
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There is a whole pile of Japanese aircraft that are lacking in AH.
As much as I would love to see them all I have to wonder if it is the lack of data preventing them from being added.
I've seen pyro's office, (Yes, its cool) and its stacked to the ceiling with books about aircraft.
But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?
So much of that was destroyed in the process of defeating the Japanese.
Granted we have some pilot accounts, but they do not give you weight, wing area, speed, or all the other numbers that to faithfully portray the plane must be "right" not just "fudged".
So while I would love to see a whole raft of Japanese planes added I'm not holding my breath.
I just don't think they have the sources they need to do them justice.
I agree. I would much rather have a limited, but accurately modeled planeset than one based on assumption and lack of factual research. Absolute data is crucial.
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What about test results of captured aircraft, or were the nature of the fighting in PTO so, that only few airworthy Japanese planes fell into the hands of the US?
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What about test results of captured aircraft, or were the nature of the fighting in PTO so, that only few airworthy Japanese planes fell into the hands of the US?
Not sure if they managed to get 1 of every plane to test?
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What lyric said, plus often planes that we did get had been shot down, crashed, or otherwise mangled.
How do you know that they got it put back to original stats?
Plus fuel tended to be different, which adds another whole layer of complexity to the mess.
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I'm on the other end, I'd like to have representation of them in one form or another. a middle ground of compromise from pilot accounts and what little info there is. Just leaving them out makes the Pac set bland for the Japanese.
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But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?
I don't think that's even nearly the case.
There is "beliveable" data available. There are guys like Robert Mikesh and Rene Francillon. I know Francillons work is old and I'm sure has errors in it but it is overall rather reliable. Then there is Japanese originated literature available and TAIC-data and so on. I have some of this material and there are Japanese players who have more.
There was also a Ki-43 in WarBirds before Pyro and HT left. While the fidelity was quite what AH is today, I don't think that has much to do with the actual parameters that go into the model but more about the model itself.
If I had to guess I would say that the WWI aircraft are much much more difficult to research in this regard.
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my wishlist
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
The Ki-45 "Nick" is tops on my Jap wish list. Can you imagine the confusion if you call an enemy "nick" sighting? LOL! :lol The code names become very important.
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The Ki-45 "Nick" is tops on my Jap wish list. Can you imagine the confusion if you call an enemy "nick" sighting? LOL! :lol The code names become very important.
The icon will be KI45 and people would just call it such, for the most part.
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Would love to see the Ki-43 especially for the special events. The Ki-44 I think would get some more time in the MA. I would surely fly it. I think the Ki-84Ib would be a better choice than the Ic, but I would take either one. Then the G4M is also badly needed for the special events. :aok
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Cant wait for more Jp planes :) would like to see the nick, oscar, and Tojo the most, aswell as a remodel of the Ki-61, 67, and A6M's, and betty, and also Chi-Ha and also, the Ohka :) someone had to say it
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A6M3 :aok
(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Riverside2007/Highlights/RiversideZero07.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/A6M3_Type32_Tainan_Kokutai_V174.jpg)
(http://christophe.arribat.pagesperso-orange.fr/stofzeke3.jpg)
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the Tojo's are probably my favorites planes as the zero's and lets not forget the Oscar in a match up with the early us and British planes you could get some very nice fights going.
~S~
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yes yes yes more jp planes...oh and some more german bombers.
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SEA*TAIU had at least one of every Japanese aircraft to evaluate during the war. Some needed to be repaired before they could be flown, some were captured intact.
Oh, and 321BAR, Just some FYI since you're into the Reisen. That A6M3 you're showing in the first picture.... She's painted wrong. Someone did poor restoration research...or didn't care about historical accuracy which sadly is the case in some restorations flying or not (mostly from long ago. Restoration shops are much more keen about historical accuracy than they used to be). That demarcation line swooping up from the wing trailing edge to the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer? That should run straight back from the wing trailing edge to the tail, underneath the horizontal stabs. The swoop (as I call it) was a signature of the Nakajima built Reisen. All A6M3's were built by Mitsubishi. Nakajima only built A6M2's and A6M5's.
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I got a Ki-44 manual in .PDF format. Its all in Japanese but it gives a break down of all parts and their measurments. Anyone intrested PM me your e-mail address and I will send it to ya.
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D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Judy, Judy, Judy!
This is the weak point of the Pacific Planeset in my opinion. It's absence renders Japanese Carrier Air power incapable of mounting a strike after 1942, and really deprives them of what was a very important strike aircraft from land fields as well.
Back in the early 2000's the Judy was included in a vote as to what planes we wanted included. I think we, as a community voted for the Val and Dauntless instead of the Judy/something else. So I always imagined that they had the info required to model it.
-Sik
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Judy/Helldiver or Val/Dauntless.
Didn't know we'd get a 1937 Val and a 1943 Dauntless though....
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my wishlist
Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built
AH needs to keep up with the re-modelling and updating of existing stuff, a hard core wwii aviation playerbase and a good flight model not enough to attract and keep new players in the current graphically intensive gaming world.
But for existing players new toys always keep a game fresh and as I fly almost exclusively the JP planeset the above list would be like christmas with ++ to the Betty and the Tojo
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More Jap planes is a treat! Also, I would like to see HTC add more twin engine aircraft in the game. Particularly the German and Japanese twin engine fighters.
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SEA*TAIU had at least one of every Japanese aircraft to evaluate during the war. Some needed to be repaired before they could be flown, some were captured intact.
Oh, and 321BAR, Just some FYI since you're into the Reisen. That A6M3 you're showing in the first picture.... She's painted wrong. Someone did poor restoration research...or didn't care about historical accuracy which sadly is the case in some restorations flying or not (mostly from long ago. Restoration shops are much more keen about historical accuracy than they used to be). That demarcation line swooping up from the wing trailing edge to the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer? That should run straight back from the wing trailing edge to the tail, underneath the horizontal stabs. The swoop (as I call it) was a signature of the Nakajima built Reisen. All A6M3's were built by Mitsubishi. Nakajima only built A6M2's and A6M5's.
do you mean the colored picture at the top? i don't see the swoop you mention and the second picture is an aged picture dating way back.