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Title: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Traveler on August 15, 2010, 01:54:39 PM
Currently if you attempt to get into an arena with a CAP limit and the CAP has been reached the player is unable to enter that arena.  Fine, I have to accept that. 

What I’m asking for is if the player was in the arena and was booted by the system and wants to reenter that same arena the player is unable to do so because of the CAP.  That really destroyed the fun of the game.  Almost seems Unfair. It detracts from the enjoyment of the game, and should be changed.

Several players were doing missions, sometimes the missions worked and sometimes they didn’t.  It was fun, everyone was enjoying the game. Lots of good fights and a few captures all in the mix.   Then some player were booted.  Who knew why, but they were unable to get back in because of CAPS.  So they logged. 

About an hour later , they were still unable to get back in, then several more of us got booted to desk top.  Again none of us could rejoin the fight .  And so we chose to do something else. 

As a long time member of the AH community I asked myself how I felt about the game experience at very moment.    I had to admit that although we had flown and fought for 3 or 4 hours the experiences of that enjoyment was completely overcome by a bad feeling , that AH sucked because of the CAP and unable to rejoin the new friends that I had just made and was unable to continue playing them.  My overall experience at that point in my mind was it was not fun or pleasurable and perhaps a waste of time.

Can’t the CAP system be altered to allow players that were discoed to rejoin the arena that they were discoed from.  That seems like a reasonable request.  I mean , at least in the LWA it is a reasonable request to be allowed to rejoin the fight if the player was discoed. You want to player to experience fun, right. 
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: milesobrian on August 15, 2010, 03:42:16 PM
or getting booted at 1259 pm eastern time and relog on and the caps are suddenly enabled leaving only the server with 16 people on it, versus the populated server.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: curry1 on August 15, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
I am about 99.9% sure that it is not the servers fault that you get discoed but all the interchanges through the interwebs that connect you to the HTC servers.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Tigger29 on August 15, 2010, 05:16:28 PM
Nobody said it was the server's fault, but likewise it's almost never the player's fault either.

I feel this is reasonable:  If you leave the arena by clicking on QUIT then aww too bad so sad.. but if you are booted for whatever reason, I think the servers should save a spot for you for maybe..5 minutes... to give you time to get back in.

We've all been there, done that at one time or another and yes it's very aggravating.. the kind to put you in a fowl mood for the rest of the day.

+1
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: grizz441 on August 15, 2010, 05:19:49 PM
Nevermind, sigh.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 15, 2010, 05:27:26 PM
We've all been there, done that at one time or another and yes it's very aggravating.. the kind to put you in a fowl mood for the rest of the day.

Seems pretty fair then.  It happens to everybody.

Sometimes life just isn't fair.


wrongway
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: RTHolmes on August 15, 2010, 05:57:49 PM
+1

I like this :aok
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: The Fugitive on August 15, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
How is the game going to decide if ....

the game booted you
a server booted you
an internet nexes booted you
or some looser pulled his connection

Never going to happen, learn to live with it as one of the hazards of playing a game on-line.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Killer91 on August 15, 2010, 07:03:59 PM
+10000000000
I still think you should be able to resume your sortie like in WoT.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Traveler on August 15, 2010, 10:23:32 PM
How is the game going to decide if ....

the game booted you
a server booted you
an internet nexes booted you
or some looser pulled his connection

Never going to happen, learn to live with it as one of the hazards of playing a game on-line.
Right now the game has a count for Discoed, right?  Isn't that one of the stats that the game keeps . I know I"ve seen it somewhere.

Late War Tour 127 Statistics for Traveler
 Fighter  Bomber  Attack  Veh./Boat  Total 
Kills 23 0 5 2 30
Assists 7 0 4 0 11
Sorties 53 0 36 10 99
 Landed 21 0 3 4 28
 Bailed 4 0 1 0 5
 Ditched 2 0 0 4 6
 Captured 0 0 3 0 3
 Deaths 25 0 29 2 56
 Discos 1 0 0 0 1
Time hh:mm:ss 07:23:04 00:00:00 06:20:11 00:34:33 14:17:48
Rank 870 2502 854 1054 1093
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Killer91 on August 15, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Right now the game has a count for Discoed, right?  Isn't that one of the stats that the game keeps . I know I"ve seen it somewhere.

Yes it keeps track of discos in your score.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: mechanic on August 15, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
Hey Trav, if it happens again you can enter the lobby from the arena selection clipboard. Sure right now you might not be able to get back online to those friends but you can message them using

.p gameID

text function.

Then at least you can explain why you left to someone. Sorry if you knew this already, just a tip for dealing with the current system.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: curry1 on August 15, 2010, 10:51:03 PM
I am saying it is not your end nor the servers end but the random interchanges of the internet.  So how can HTC possibly give you free access back into the capped arena when you are disconnected from the arena.  There is no way for them to give you special access back into the arena except maybe if you got disconnected from their server but if a random interchange clicked off no way they could for see it.

Ahh i cant explain this correctly whatever...
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: RTHolmes on August 16, 2010, 03:14:08 AM
log into AH again, dialog pops up: "I notice you disconnected unexpectedly from the xxxx server, would you like to reconnect?"

easy :aok
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Tigger29 on August 16, 2010, 12:52:01 PM
I am saying it is not your end nor the servers end but the random interchanges of the internet.  So how can HTC possibly give you free access back into the capped arena when you are disconnected from the arena.  There is no way for them to give you special access back into the arena except maybe if you got disconnected from their server but if a random interchange clicked off no way they could for see it.

Ahh i cant explain this correctly whatever...

Curry, I'm calling BS on that.  The game already knows the difference between quitting and being disconnected.  It does not matter why you were disconnected, but just that you were.  I'm only talking about a window of a couple of minutes to let you back it.. heck it doesn't even need to deny anyone else access either during that time.. just let the numbers go over a bit.  It already happens all the time.  If someone were to yank their cable, they likely won't want to come right back in anyway.

Personally, to be honest, I almost never suffer from disconnects.. maybe twice in the last six months.. so it really doesn't matter THAT much to me... but I have squadmates that get disconnected all of the time and it's very... unpleasant... to be having a great time flying around with your friends with a lot of support for various missions, etc... only to have a few people get disconnected and then they can't get back in.. and the rest of us get angry to the point in which things just aren't fun anymore.

It's a game.  It's supposed to be fun.  We pay to come on here and have fun.  When things like this happen (which IMO is easily fixed) then it takes away the fun.  Yes, we can't always control when or how disconnects happen, but since HT is adamant on maintaining arena caps, then they should at least have some kind of plan invoked for this sort of thing when it happens.

Make a set of rules.. maybe like this



I don't see why this would be impossible to implement, and I don't understand why anyone would be against this, but I'm willing to listen to arguments against this if you care to explain.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: milesobrian on August 16, 2010, 02:36:39 PM

  • Player must have been logged in to the arena for at least ten minutes prior
  • Player must have been disconnected from the arena
  • Player is given 5 minutes from time of disconnection to re-enter arena, during which time the arena cap doesn't apply
  • If player does not meet all three criteria, then they are not allowed back into the arena, unless that arena isn't full


I don't see why this would be impossible to implement, and I don't understand why anyone would be against this, but I'm willing to listen to arguments against this if you care to explain.



I dont think how long you were logged in matters.  The point is you got in to the server before the capacity was reached and you were disconnected, therefore you should be allowed back in.  its just an arbitrary rule.



I know why someone would be against this....they are stupid fan boys for the aces high company...these are the same people who deny every wish list request on the grounds that the aces high team is too busy and shouldnt be forced to work hard for their paying customers....
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: The Fugitive on August 16, 2010, 03:27:48 PM
Right now the game has a count for Discoed, right?  Isn't that one of the stats that the game keeps . I know I"ve seen it somewhere.

Late War Tour 127 Statistics for Traveler
 Fighter  Bomber  Attack  Veh./Boat  Total 
Kills 23 0 5 2 30
Assists 7 0 4 0 11
Sorties 53 0 36 10 99
 Landed 21 0 3 4 28
 Bailed 4 0 1 0 5
 Ditched 2 0 0 4 6
 Captured 0 0 3 0 3
 Deaths 25 0 29 2 56
 Discos 1 0 0 0 1
Time hh:mm:ss 07:23:04 00:00:00 06:20:11 00:34:33 14:17:48
Rank 870 2502 854 1054 1093


Yes it counts discos, but how is it to know HOW you discoed? If you LEAVE the game you have to click QUIT, but a disco is a disco. How many "looser" are you going to get that will just pull their plug to "disco" there are enough accusations as it is now, now you want to give people a chance to do it for real?

Again, it's not going to happen, get use to it, learn that it is a hazard of playing an on-line game.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: AceHavok on August 16, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
I like this idea. I hate getting discoed in LW then having to log out then log back in for about 10 minutes just to get another spot.

+1
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: ImADot on August 16, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
just let the numbers go over a bit.  It already happens all the time.

Actually, it doesn't.  Once an arena reaches cap, nobody new can enter.  You're just seeing the cap number fluctuate as relative numbers between arenas change.


I hate getting discoed in LW then having to log out then log back in for about 10 minutes just to get another spot.

Try loggin into the other arena for a minute (or two).  By bringing the other arena numbers up, the dynamic cap will change in the "must get in at all costs" arena much quicker.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: cobia38 on August 17, 2010, 11:41:10 AM

  do away with static tower campers first
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Traveler on August 17, 2010, 04:31:22 PM
Yes it counts discos, but how is it to know HOW you discoed? If you LEAVE the game you have to click QUIT, but a disco is a disco. How many "looser" are you going to get that will just pull their plug to "disco" there are enough accusations as it is now, now you want to give people a chance to do it for real?

Again, it's not going to happen, get use to it, learn that it is a hazard of playing an on-line game.

with a time limit. and it doesn't matter how you discoed.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Traveler on August 17, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Actually, it doesn't.  Once an arena reaches cap, nobody new can enter.  You're just seeing the cap number fluctuate as relative numbers between arenas change.

Fluctuations or not, his point was that you can have 250/200  in the game now and often do. 

Try loggin into the other arena for a minute (or two).  By bringing the other arena numbers up, the dynamic cap will change in the "must get in at all costs" arena much quicker.

Depending on the day and time, numbers already in the arena,  that number change may be a long time coming.
Title: Re: Allow discoed players to rejoin the fight in LW arenas
Post by: Killer91 on August 17, 2010, 08:14:54 PM
Fluctuations or not, his point was that you can have 250/200  in the game now and often do. 

Depending on the day and time, numbers already in the arena,  that number change may be a long time coming.

Just yesterday i discoed out of the orange a few minutes after 12. I log back in and the arena was 357/100 and it took 2 hrs to get back in.