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Title: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Reschke on September 06, 2010, 11:30:06 PM
When they don't make it to the National Championship game....no matter that they don't play anyone worth a crap for the rest of the season. Heck their next "big test" is against Oregon State that got beat by TCU this past weekend...oh and don't forget that Boise plays one of the worst schedules in Div 1 this year...I think it is just barely above 100 on the ranking but not by much.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: BoilerDown on September 06, 2010, 11:39:04 PM
Good.  I'm glad they get to have their "we should be in the championship" say again.  All the sooner that we get a playoff for college football's highest level.  Every college football fan should be rooting for Boise St. to run the table.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: hlbly on September 07, 2010, 12:44:32 AM
When they are the only unbeaten school left and they aren't national champs something is wrong . OSU played TCU very tight since when does losing to the number 6 team make you a push over ?
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: fudgums on September 07, 2010, 05:19:48 AM
I don't see boise going undefeated two years in a row...
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Stoney on September 07, 2010, 05:49:22 AM
All the sooner that we get a playoff for college football's highest level.

It will never happen unless its Federally mandated.  All of us college football fans should accept this, no matter how much we want it.  Boise merely upsets the system and the sportswriters are the ones that perpetuate the problem.  The only way Boise State gets to the championship game is after they join a BCS conference.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: lowZX14 on September 07, 2010, 07:35:57 AM
I'm just glad to see they beat the castrated turkeys.   :rock :rock :rock :rock

Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Reschke on September 07, 2010, 01:19:02 PM
Look Boise fanbois until they play in a BCS conference and have to prepare for quality opponents week in and week out then and only then will they be accepted in my book. Just because you play 9 P***** teams in a season does not a championship team make. Hell I could have a decent Div 1A team prepared if I had between 1 month and 9 months to prepare for them. Oh and the Beavers....they aren't a quality team either. I seriously doubt they are still in the Top 25 after getting beaten by TCU who SHOULDN'T be up there either.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: oakranger on September 07, 2010, 01:26:44 PM
Guys, correct me if i am wrong, didn't that coach try to schedule games against BSC teams (UCS, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma to name a few) but they all declined to play them. 
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Dichotomy on September 07, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
Look Boise fanbois until they play in a BCS conference and have to prepare for quality opponents week in and week out then and only then will they be accepted in my book. Just because you play 9 P***** teams in a season does not a championship team make. Hell I could have a decent Div 1A team prepared if I had between 1 month and 9 months to prepare for them. Oh and the Beavers....they aren't a quality team either. I seriously doubt they are still in the Top 25 after getting beaten by TCU who SHOULDN'T be up there either.

Aww man let my beloved Frogs have their time in the sun.  They vacuumed orally for AGES.  :D 

Although I tend to agree with your assessment.  Even if they run the table they're not a top 10 team IMHO.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: BoilerDown on September 07, 2010, 05:19:19 PM
It will never happen unless its Federally mandated.  All of us college football fans should accept this, no matter how much we want it.  Boise merely upsets the system and the sportswriters are the ones that perpetuate the problem.  The only way Boise State gets to the championship game is after they join a BCS conference.

I'll never accept that.  On the contrary, we deserve a championship and need to demand it.  This has nothing to do with Boise State, and everything to do with what's best for college football.  And a end-of-season tournament to determine the champion is what is best.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: 68ZooM on September 07, 2010, 05:47:13 PM
Look Boise fanbois until they play in a BCS conference and have to prepare for quality opponents week in and week out then and only then will they be accepted in my book. Just because you play 9 P***** teams in a season does not a championship team make. Hell I could have a decent Div 1A team prepared if I had between 1 month and 9 months to prepare for them. Oh and the Beavers....they aren't a quality team either. I seriously doubt they are still in the Top 25 after getting beaten by TCU who SHOULDN'T be up there either.

+1  :aok     If they want to run with all the big dogs then they need to get off the porch and run in a high caliber conference, and play a tougher schedule for a start, i would love to see Boise play in a Real conference, they would lose more than they win,  as far as who's #1..  no one, not until theres a legit playoff season, top two teams from each Confernce and maybe 2 to 4 wild cards form all the divisions, that always gives any underdog a fighting chance, set the teams up in brackets and have at it, something like the NFL
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: fudgums on September 07, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
Guys, correct me if i am wrong, didn't that coach try to schedule games against BSC teams (UCS, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma to name a few) but they all declined to play them. 

I bet theres not much truth to that.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: alskahawk on September 07, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
Guys, correct me if i am wrong, didn't that coach try to schedule games against BSC teams (UCS, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma to name a few) but they all declined to play them. 

 Ya and teams will play Alabama, Florida, Penn State, tOSU but Boise State scares them. Having said that, Boise has proven to be a contender. VT may not be a national title contender, but they are a very solid team.

  Though I doubt Boise would enjoy the same record of success if they played in a BCS conference, that is not the issue. They beat the teams they have played OSU, TCU, VT and the fact that they are in a joke of a conference is going to be irrelevant if they beat Oregon State in Boise. If they get past OSU they will go undefeated and then they have to be considered for the national championship.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Dace on September 07, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
All you guys wishing for a playoff in NCAA football should be very careful what you wish for. It would change the complexion of the regular college football season altogether. As of now EVERY game is a must win game. If you go to a playoff, those "Big" games in the middle of Oct. become a little less meaningful. College football has one of the most exciting "regular seasons" as it is right now. Bringing in a playoff system will change that.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: fudgums on September 07, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
All you guys wishing for a playoff in NCAA football should be very careful what you wish for. It would change the complexion of the regular college football season altogether. As of now EVERY game is a must win game. If you go to a playoff, those "Big" games in the middle of Oct. become a little less meaningful. College football has one of the most exciting "regular seasons" as it is right now. Bringing in a playoff system will change that.

unless it was a 4-8 team playoff.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: oakranger on September 07, 2010, 07:39:38 PM
All you guys wishing for a playoff in NCAA football should be very careful what you wish for. It would change the complexion of the regular college football season altogether. As of now EVERY game is a must win game. If you go to a playoff, those "Big" games in the middle of Oct. become a little less meaningful. College football has one of the most exciting "regular seasons" as it is right now. Bringing in a playoff system will change that.


Playoff system will be better than the B.S. BCS!
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: NOT on September 07, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
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.no matter that they don't play anyone worth a crap for the rest of the season.

It worked for USC............. :noid




NOT
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: grizz441 on September 07, 2010, 08:00:21 PM
I turned the game on last night rooting against Boise State and found myself rooting for them by the end.  Why is that?  Because that team plays their heart out every single time it takes the field.  If they go undefeated they deserve to play in the Championship Game.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: oakranger on September 07, 2010, 08:12:19 PM
I turned the game on last night rooting against Boise State and found myself rooting for them by the end.  Why is that?  Because that team plays their heart out every single time it takes the field.  If they go undefeated they deserve to play in the Championship Game.

+1
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: fudgums on September 07, 2010, 09:13:59 PM
Would you take a 12-0 Boise State team over a 11-1 Alabama, 11-1 ohio state, 11-1 Florida?
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: BoilerDown on September 07, 2010, 09:16:29 PM
Would you take a 12-0 Boise State team over a 11-1 Alabama, 11-1 ohio state, 11-1 Florida?

Is Ohio State's one loss to Purdue?

:rofl
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Stoney on September 07, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
And a end-of-season tournament to determine the champion is what is best.

According to the Presidents and Athletic Directors of almost every school in NCAA Div. 1 football, a playoff isn't in the best interest of the schools.  It doesn't really matter that we, the fans, want one.  Unless the leadership of the universities signs off on it, it will never happen, unless, like I said, its federally mandated.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: grizz441 on September 07, 2010, 09:27:26 PM
Would you take a 12-0 Boise State team over a 11-1 Alabama, 11-1 ohio state, 11-1 Florida?


Probably.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Dichotomy on September 07, 2010, 10:02:21 PM
and they might cover the spread but they'd most likely come in second in a 'championship' game
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Becinhu on September 08, 2010, 12:28:04 AM
Would you take a 12-0 Boise State team over a 11-1 Alabama, 11-1 ohio state, 11-1 Florida?

   Alabama and ohio state maybe. Florida no. Why? Because Florida year in and year out will play as many small time programs as they can and run the score up.   This doesn't only happen with Florida. Alot of the higher tier teams do this.  I'll use my Alma Mater as an example.  WVU starts out with Coastal Carolina.....they couldn't find anyone better?  And they only win 31-0.  The third string should be able to beat CCU by 31.  Is that a quality win? I would drop them in the rankings just for playing a team like that and not winning by 70.
   The analysts don't help either.  You have Lee Corso ankle-humping his favorites year round.  If Corso picked lets say Purdue to win the title before the season started, and they went 1-2 the first 3 games he would still be calling them a contender.
   A playoff won't happen either. There is too much money at stake in the major bowl games.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: oakranger on September 08, 2010, 01:24:16 AM
   A playoff won't happen either. There is too much money at stake in the major bowl games.

You mean there are to much money that is handed out to people who wants to dictate the system and get rich off it. 
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: hlbly on September 08, 2010, 03:25:46 AM
Look Boise fanbois until they play in a BCS conference and have to prepare for quality opponents week in and week out then and only then will they be accepted in my book. Just because you play 9 P***** teams in a season does not a championship team make. Hell I could have a decent Div 1A team prepared if I had between 1 month and 9 months to prepare for them. Oh and the Beavers....they aren't a quality team either. I seriously doubt they are still in the Top 25 after getting beaten by TCU who SHOULDN'T be up there either.
LOL you know nothing about football it seems . On what do you base your opinion of these wild statements ? Bookmarked this lets see how your expertise pans out . Really no reason to be so rude dewd .
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Post by: hlbly on September 08, 2010, 03:27:34 AM
Guys, correct me if i am wrong, didn't that coach try to schedule games against BSC teams (UCS, Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma to name a few) but they all declined to play them. 
Exactly . Why risk it .
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: hlbly on September 08, 2010, 03:32:08 AM
Look Boise fanbois until they play in a BCS conference and have to prepare for quality opponents week in and week out then and only then will they be accepted in my book. Just because you play 9 P***** teams in a season does not a championship team make. Hell I could have a decent Div 1A team prepared if I had between 1 month and 9 months to prepare for them. Oh and the Beavers....they aren't a quality team either. I seriously doubt they are still in the Top 25 after getting beaten by TCU who SHOULDN'T be up there either.
Might try taking a look at the 2006 season as well . Look at records of teams they played . The days of year in year out powerhouses is gone . The days of year in year out losers is gone too .
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Post by: MiloMorai on September 08, 2010, 06:48:09 AM
Time to break up the Old Boys club.

What I would like to see is the top 13 teams in the east and the top 13 teams in the west have their own division. Call it the Premier Conference. The top team in the east and the west would play for the championship.

At the end of the season, the bottom 3 teams in each division would be dropped from the Premier Conference and the top 3 from the next level down would be brought up.
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: Dace on September 08, 2010, 08:01:45 PM
Time to break up the Old Boys club.

What I would like to see is the top 13 teams in the east and the top 13 teams in the west have their own division. Call it the Premier Conference. The top team in the east and the west would play for the championship.

At the end of the season, the bottom 3 teams in each division would be dropped from the Premier Conference and the top 3 from the next level down would be brought up.

Is someone an EPL fan? ;)
Title: Re: Oh lord Boise State is gonna be whining and screaming now...
Post by: fudgums on September 08, 2010, 08:24:27 PM
D-1AA or FCS whatever you call it, its exciting and why not have the bowls and playoffs?
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Post by: shppr01 on September 08, 2010, 08:33:35 PM
+1  :aok     If they want to run with all the big dogs then they need to get off the porch and run in a high caliber conference, and play a tougher schedule for a start, i would love to see Boise play in a Real conference,
Boise State Can't join a better conference. Our school is not big enough. We dont get the accreditation that BSU deserves.
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Post by: Stoney on September 08, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
D-1AA or FCS whatever you call it, its exciting and why not have the bowls and playoffs?

I'm a huge fan, and I'd love a playoff.  I agree that the FCS proves that a playoff system is viable.  The problem for us fans that want to see a playoff is that no one at the university or conference level wants to participate in a playoff system.  I have no idea why, other than that perception among those conference commissioners and athletic directors that a playoff wouldn't be as beneficial as the bowl system.  So, given that, there's no way it will ever happen unless Congress passes a law that mandates it.
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Post by: MiloMorai on September 08, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
Is someone an EPL fan? ;)

I like the format.:) I think it would stop all the blathering about which team is #1. I also think it would increase the competitiveness. A draft system would be needed though.