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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MachFly on September 13, 2010, 05:24:46 AM
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I'm trying to familiarize myself with arizona state lows, on the speeding topic. I know some states allow you to have a certain number of speeding tickets until your license is revoked, for example new york allows two speeding tickets in an 18 month period. I'm trying to find out if arizona has any lows like that.
Any help would be appreciated
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Arizona operates on a points system. If you get more than 9 points in a 12 month period your license will be suspended. The time period starts when you get the first ticket. Get more than 6 more points within 12 months and the license is suspended until enough time has passed to erase some of the points.
Normal speeding is 3 points as are most other common violations. Something like reckless driving is 8 or 9 as is DUI.
Oh and the term is not low, it's law.
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Did you just move to AZ machfly?
Good info source in Maverick as I believe he is an LEO.
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We got rid of those stupid traffic cameras and vans. Now if we could get the red light cameras out of Phoenix, Chandler, and Mesa we would be camera free. I got a ticket in Mesa for running a yellow light. Got points, and my insurance went up because of it.. Got caught just as the light changed from yellow to red. Going 45 at the time. Did not want to slam on my brakes and slide into the intersection. Arizona became a big brother state for awhile with all of the traffic cameras...
You would rally have to be speeding a lot to get a ticket now on the freeway systems. I can respect a cop pulling me over and giving me a ticket if I did something wrong. But having a camera do it just doesn't seem right in my book.. And no, I do not speed at all. Only one ticket in 15 years. That was for the red light camera..
Question Machfly. Are you planning on racking up some speeding tickets while your here?
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We got rid of those stupid traffic cameras and vans. Now if we could get the red light cameras out of Phoenix, Chandler, and Mesa we would be camera free. I got a ticket in Mesa for running a yellow light. Got points, and my insurance went up because of it.. Got caught just as the light changed from yellow to red. Going 45 at the time. Did not want to slam on my brakes and slide into the intersection. Arizona became a big brother state for awhile with all of the traffic cameras...
You would rally have to be speeding a lot to get a ticket now on the freeway systems. I can respect a cop pulling me over and giving me a ticket if I did something wrong. But having a camera do it just doesn't seem right in my book.. And no, I do not speed at all. Only one ticket in 15 years. That was for the red light camera..
Question Machfly. Are you planning on racking up some speeding tickets while your here?
The cameras are there to generate income. It is not about laws now.
If your vehicle is beat up with a bat and all the lights and windows are broken out. Even if there is blood at the scene. They won't do more than write info down... no finger prints, no ivestigation. Most police forces are just in the job of making money.
It is not the officers fault.... just your local governments fault.
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Thanks for the help
Oh and the term is not low, it's law.
Right, I'm an idiot.
Did you just move to AZ machfly?
Yep, used to live in New York
Are you planning on racking up some speeding tickets while your here?
Got a ticket a few days ago for speeding by 10mph in a 25mph zone. It was a clean road with no intersections. And the cop was on a bike, it has dark so I did not see his pain and since I am not used to seeing cops on bikes I did not think of a possibility or it being a cop, also I did not expect them to care about 10mph.
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Yep, used to live in New York
Got a ticket a few days ago for speeding by 10mph in a 25mph zone. It was a clean road with no intersections. And the cop was on a bike, it has dark so I did not see his pain and since I am not used to seeing cops on bikes I did not think of a possibility or it being a cop, also I did not expect them to care about 10mph.
From my 7 years of driving in western New York State, I never would have assumed I was safe at 10 over. 6-7 over, sure -- not 10. Also, doing 75 on the Thruway (65 mph) is a bit different than doing 35 in a 25, from a percentage point of view. Slow it down, brotha. :aok
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Got a ticket a few days ago for speeding by 10mph in a 25mph zone. It was a clean road with no intersections. And the cop was on a bike, it has dark so I did not see his pain and since I am not used to seeing cops on bikes I did not think of a possibility or it being a cop, also I did not expect them to care about 10mph.
I swear by HID headlights. Anything reflective jumps out at you at night. Be it roadsigns or police vehicles.
Generally here in Texas if your less than 10 over they will not stop you. They can if you are one over but most of the time they leave you alone. Now if your in a school zone, one over will get you a double fine ticket.
Best thing to do is be aware of your surroundings. Some places are safe for a little more speed and some require even less than posted speed for safety reasons. Drive friendly and allow yourself plenty of time for your trip.
This has been a neighborly announcement from your Shuffler Broadcasting System.
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And.....I just found out that I got a 2nd one (http://forum.mininova.org/style_emoticons/default/banging%20head%20on%20wall%20smilie.gif)
Arizona speed cameras :furious
I had a lot more luck in NY
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And.....I just found out that I got a 2nd one (http://forum.mininova.org/style_emoticons/default/banging%20head%20on%20wall%20smilie.gif)
Arizona speed cameras :furious
I had a lot more luck in NY
If you were an illegal, the police wouldn't even give you a ticket. Having a License, insurance, and registration only applies to American citizens in Arizona..A friend got rear ended by an illegal a few years ago. He had no license, insurance. The cop didn't even give him a ticket.. Same applies to traffic cameras. Illegals do not pay the fines. They do not even have a license..
If I get caught with no license and insurance, I will surely end up arrested.. Just be glad that the cameras and vans are off of the highways now. The bleeding heart liberals are trying hard to bring them back...
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And.....I just found out that I got a 2nd one (http://forum.mininova.org/style_emoticons/default/banging%20head%20on%20wall%20smilie.gif)
Arizona speed cameras :furious
I had a lot more luck in NY
Welcome to the West! You'll get handy at spotting motorcycle cops and roadside/intersection cameras real fast!... also pay attention to the speed signage... "Enforced by Radar or Camera" be wary, "Enforced by Aircraft"... have safe fun but lookout for maybe a random trap behind a bridge here or there.
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The bleeding heart liberals are trying hard to bring them back...
Funny, could of sworn some conservative elected officials in San Diego were the first fine examples of beurocratic waste that decided to begin using these automated camera systems in America... Anything else wrong with America today you want to blame on something that's only had 20% of the time at behind the wheel in the last 10 years?
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Funny, could of sworn some conservative elected officials in San Diego were the first fine examples of beurocratic waste that decided to begin using these automated camera systems in America... Anything else wrong with America today you want to blame on something that's only had 20% of the time at behind the wheel in the last 10 years?
I blame liberals with all that is wrong with America!!!!
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From my 7 years of driving in western New York State, I never would have assumed I was safe at 10 over. 6-7 over, sure -- not 10. Also, doing 75 on the Thruway (65 mph) is a bit different than doing 35 in a 25, from a percentage point of view. Slow it down, brotha. :aok
i've yet to see anyone...besides mom do 25 in a 25 zone, unless there's a cop behind them. if the cop's in front, then the cop is usually doing 35-40.
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radar detector. the good ones will even catch "instant on" before they catch you.
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course you relise that if you just obay the speed laws or stayin the middle of the pack of those who are speeding. there is no problem. LOL
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on the highways, i drive around 75mph. doesn't matter the speed limit out on 295......55 or 65, i do 75. at that speed, i'm perfectly safe. 25 years ago, when driving at that speed, i was passing 95% of the cars out there. now, i'd say about 75% of them are passing me. they're the ones that're gonna get nailed. :devil
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I drove I-95 to Fla a back a few years ago and I noticed something amusing. Wherever the speed limit was 55. Everyone drive 70. And wherever the speed limits was above 70....Everyone drove 70.
Ya just gotta go with the flow of traffic and not do anything to stand out.
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i've yet to see anyone...besides mom do 25 in a 25 zone, unless there's a cop behind them. if the cop's in front, then the cop is usually doing 35-40.
Heh, never said you had to do 25 Cap, just that you are likely to get pinged (again, in western NY) for doing 35 in a 25. Just cause the cop is doing that speed doesn't mean he won't nail you for doing the same, either. Seen that plenty of times. :rolleyes:
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Heh, never said you had to do 25 Cap, just that you are likely to get pinged (again, in western NY) for doing 35 in a 25. Just cause the cop is doing that speed doesn't mean he won't nail you for doing the same, either. Seen that plenty of times. :rolleyes:
yea, me too.
i was behind a voorhees cop in cherry hill a few weeks ago. he was way out of his territory. he was first in line in a lane that merged......i stayed on him till we cleared the rest of the traffic in the right lane, then dropped back. speed limit was 45. when i hit 75, he was still pulling away, and i backed off, for fear of getting nailed that far over.
don'tcha know, there he is sitting at the next light? so it was obvious he wasn't on a call, otherwise he'd have hit the lights, and kept going.
i had that on my dash cam, and was gonna post the video.....but i never got 'round to it.
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Here in Missouri they are just starting to roll out the Red Light Cameras.. and I saw the first SPEED Camera over the weekend.
Although I am 100% AGAINST this sort of thing, all I can say is at least getting caught with a camera here is not considered a "moving violation" and no points are assigned. If you actually take the time to go to court, they have to dismiss it, because they don't have a police witness.. and because it is impossible to verify the driver of the vehicle with the cameras 99% of the time. They had to make it no points so people would just pay the fine and go on with their lives.
And this is coming from a person who has had two speeding tickets and one stop sign ticket in his 19 years of driving...
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Here in Missouri they are just starting to roll out the Red Light Cameras.. and I saw the first SPEED Camera over the weekend.
Although I am 100% AGAINST this sort of thing, all I can say is at least getting caught with a camera here is not considered a "moving violation" and no points are assigned. If you actually take the time to go to court, they have to dismiss it, because they don't have a police witness.. and because it is impossible to verify the driver of the vehicle with the cameras 99% of the time. They had to make it no points so people would just pay the fine and go on with their lives.
And this is coming from a person who has had two speeding tickets and one stop sign ticket in his 19 years of driving...
they've got red light cameras in glouster township, deptford, cherry hill, and stratford here in south jersey. glouster township says that in the six months since they've activated the first 4 cameras, $900k in tickets have been sent out. they're adding more.
the trick they seem to do in nj, is to send the ticket out too late for you to be able to contest it. there seems to be a time limit on calling the court to fight it.......
oh yea.....the company that runs the cameras is arizona based.
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The cameras are there to generate income. It is not about laws now.
If your vehicle is beat up with a bat and all the lights and windows are broken out. Even if there is blood at the scene. They won't do more than write info down... no finger prints, no ivestigation. Most police forces are just in the job of making money.
It is not the officers fault.... just your local governments fault.
Sorry you have this opinion but it is just that, an opinion and frankly fits the definition of blivet very well.
Having been in the job I can tell you that the folks in cars really don't care much about writing a ticket, most consider it an inconvenience that they have to do. They'd rather be on a call and with the staffing low and the call load high that's where they spend a lot of time.
As far as the vandalism is concerned. What did you expect to happen? That they would send out "CSI" from hollywood to take pictures of your damage? Do you expect to have finger prints taken on the broken glass? What exactly are they supposed to do for you? If there are no witnesses, no pictures (ie. surveillance footage) with a recognizable face and or license number of the suspect vehicle, if any, what are they going to do for you? There can't be any prosecution without those things. You can photograph the damage just fine by yourself and give it to your insurance company. You certainly don't need to Police to do that for you. In short, if there is no chance of a prosecution there is no real reason for them to be there. You can get a report number by phone if you need it for insurance purposes.
Oh and doing a DNA test is not a cheap or convenient thing like they show on TV. It's only good if you have something to compare it to as there is no national data base of the DNA of everyone that is in the the USA. Sorry but "CSI" just doesn't do stuff right away since it's only fiction, like getting finger prints off of rocks. Real crime tech and evidence analysis is a long tedious affair that costs quite a bit of money. There is only so much available to spend in the budget.
You should also know that a simple fender bender, thanks to the state legislatures actions not the Police, is no longer a criminal situation. It's a "civil" situation and that makes it outside of the jurisdictional requirement for Police to respond without significant injuries or death which would make it criminal. Lot's of places no longer have Police respond to them and just tell you to exchange info. Thank the state legislature for that one.
If you think the job is just about making money, try it sometime.
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So there no more mexicans in arizona? :headscratch: hmmm hmmmm how they gonna mate now?
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i've yet to see anyone...besides mom do 25 in a 25 zone, unless there's a cop behind them. if the cop's in front, then the cop is usually doing 35-40.
As a father, I never speed in 25's. Ever since I have had my driver's permit at age 16 (21 years ago), I don't speed in 25's. On the freeways, I'll usually do 5 over.
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Sorry you have this opinion but it is just that, an opinion and frankly fits the definition of blivet very well.
Having been in the job I can tell you that the folks in cars really don't care much about writing a ticket, most consider it an inconvenience that they have to do. They'd rather be on a call and with the staffing low and the call load high that's where they spend a lot of time.
As far as the vandalism is concerned. What did you expect to happen? That they would send out "CSI" from hollywood to take pictures of your damage? Do you expect to have finger prints taken on the broken glass? What exactly are they supposed to do for you? If there are no witnesses, no pictures (ie. surveillance footage) with a recognizable face and or license number of the suspect vehicle, if any, what are they going to do for you? There can't be any prosecution without those things. You can photograph the damage just fine by yourself and give it to your insurance company. You certainly don't need to Police to do that for you. In short, if there is no chance of a prosecution there is no real reason for them to be there. You can get a report number by phone if you need it for insurance purposes.
Oh and doing a DNA test is not a cheap or convenient thing like they show on TV. It's only good if you have something to compare it to as there is no national data base of the DNA of everyone that is in the the USA. Sorry but "CSI" just doesn't do stuff right away since it's only fiction, like getting finger prints off of rocks. Real crime tech and evidence analysis is a long tedious affair that costs quite a bit of money. There is only so much available to spend in the budget.
You should also know that a simple fender bender, thanks to the state legislatures actions not the Police, is no longer a criminal situation. It's a "civil" situation and that makes it outside of the jurisdictional requirement for Police to respond without significant injuries or death which would make it criminal. Lot's of places no longer have Police respond to them and just tell you to exchange info. Thank the state legislature for that one.
If you think the job is just about making money, try it sometime.
Most don't like writing tickets. It is their local governemnts that require them to make an income. I base this on several friends who are LEOs.
No idea why you bring up a show on TV to defend your opinion. I do not watch cop TV shows.
As for excuses for not fighting crime. Thanks it backs everything I posted in the first post. Do not depend on the police to come to your aid. be prepared to protect yourself. If and officer has the time he may arrive before it is all over. Most LEOs are over worked and under paid. Most forces have a shortage of manpower. Most work for a "Company" that does little to fight crime untill the little thieves grow up to commit deadlier crimes.
In the incident I was refering to, the officer said they were not allowed to take prints. This was in Pasadena Texas.
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Sorry you have this opinion but it is just that, an opinion and frankly fits the definition of blivet very well.
Having been in the job I can tell you that the folks in cars really don't care much about writing a ticket, most consider it an inconvenience that they have to do. They'd rather be on a call and with the staffing low and the call load high that's where they spend a lot of time.
As far as the vandalism is concerned. What did you expect to happen? That they would send out "CSI" from hollywood to take pictures of your damage? Do you expect to have finger prints taken on the broken glass? What exactly are they supposed to do for you? If there are no witnesses, no pictures (ie. surveillance footage) with a recognizable face and or license number of the suspect vehicle, if any, what are they going to do for you? There can't be any prosecution without those things. You can photograph the damage just fine by yourself and give it to your insurance company. You certainly don't need to Police to do that for you. In short, if there is no chance of a prosecution there is no real reason for them to be there. You can get a report number by phone if you need it for insurance purposes.
Oh and doing a DNA test is not a cheap or convenient thing like they show on TV. It's only good if you have something to compare it to as there is no national data base of the DNA of everyone that is in the the USA. Sorry but "CSI" just doesn't do stuff right away since it's only fiction, like getting finger prints off of rocks. Real crime tech and evidence analysis is a long tedious affair that costs quite a bit of money. There is only so much available to spend in the budget.
You should also know that a simple fender bender, thanks to the state legislatures actions not the Police, is no longer a criminal situation. It's a "civil" situation and that makes it outside of the jurisdictional requirement for Police to respond without significant injuries or death which would make it criminal. Lot's of places no longer have Police respond to them and just tell you to exchange info. Thank the state legislature for that one.
If you think the job is just about making money, try it sometime.
well....the cameras ARE there for income.
if they TRULY wanted to lower the rate of traffic lights that are run, then they'd simply need to make themselves more visible. take that "out of service" cruiser, and park it in a nearby parking lot. you'd be surprised at how well that works. especially if you leave the radar up and running in it.
like i mentioned.......glouster township is bragging of nearly $900k in tickets issued in less than six months....and they also say that due to this, they're installing more cameras, and that they're here to stay. that sounds like revenue generating to me.