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Title: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Perrine on September 21, 2010, 05:08:22 PM
Hartmann style  :airplane:

- stalk-and-ambush tactics
- hold fire until extremely close
- If it's dangerous to dogfight further,  break off and be content with one victory

Marseille style  :joystick:

- prefers high-angle deflection shooting attack and shooting at the target's front from the side
- attacked under conditions many considered unfavorable (diving into enemy formations and risking damage for example), but make an approach fast enough to escape the return fire
- would commit to dogfight to the point of lowering throttle and flaps
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Ardy123 on September 21, 2010, 05:52:47 PM
how about this....

1) Find the largest dar bar
2) yell yyaaarrr! on 200
3) go 'balls out' in the hornets nest
4) create a conga line of spit 16s trying to kill you as you hang in there by the skin on your cartoon teeth
5) die with hopefully a few kills
6) repeat, occasionally taking breaks for more beer

Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BrownBaron on September 21, 2010, 06:15:31 PM
Hartmann style  :airplane:

- stalk-and-ambush tactics
- hold fire until extremely close
- If it's dangerous to dogfight further,  break off and be content with one victory

Marseille style  :joystick:

- prefers high-angle deflection shooting attack and shooting at the target's front from the side
- attacked under conditions many considered unfavorable (diving into enemy formations and risking damage for example), but make an approach fast enough to escape the return fire
- would commit to dogfight to the point of lowering throttle and flaps

I use both, to an extent.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Guppy35 on September 21, 2010, 06:41:09 PM
Low and slow in a 109E cause it's the best looking 109 :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Tordon22 on September 21, 2010, 07:11:29 PM
Ho/ram 30mm . I'm making it a style
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BiPoLaR on September 21, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
how about this....

1) Find the largest dar bar
2) yell ALLAH AKBAR!!! on 200
3) go 'balls out' in the hornets nest
4) create a conga line of spit 16s trying to kill you as you hang in there by the skin on your cartoon teeth
5) die with hopefully a few kills
6) repeat, occasionally taking breaks for more beer


Fixed :aok
And Ardy, you are learning :)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Spikes on September 21, 2010, 08:10:49 PM
Ho/ram 30mm . I'm making it a style
In a 262 for best visual effect.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Stratocaster on September 21, 2010, 08:14:09 PM
Ho/ram 30mm . I'm making it a style

 :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 21, 2010, 08:33:13 PM
The slow rate of fire of the german cannons plus the poor roll rate of 109s, especially as speed increases, tends to limit my infrequent enthusiasm for 109s to one or two sorties a tour.  And when I do fly em its because I like the skins :)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Becinhu on September 21, 2010, 08:40:11 PM
Becinhu style-

1. saddle up on a con
2. watch con do cartoon slalom with my taters
3. cuss alot
4. go HO/rammed by a spit 16 or lgay
5. cuss more
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Zygote404 on September 21, 2010, 08:48:12 PM
Hartmann here.

Roll rate at high speed n slow firing rate don't make much difference in K4 when your faster then a tempest, zoom better then a P38, roll in the vertical at low speed and one 30mm hit explodes just about anything.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: CAP1 on September 21, 2010, 09:04:59 PM
The slow rate of fire of the german cannons plus the poor roll rate of 109s, especially as speed increases, tends to limit my infrequent enthusiasm for 109s to one or two sorties a tour.  And when I do fly em its because I like the skins :)

i like this skin.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/avasept20longbow.jpg)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Perrine on September 21, 2010, 10:48:57 PM
For me it depends which arena i go to.

Main arena - Hartmann
Dueling arena - Marseille, I stay only around 5-6,000 feet.

Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: R 105 on September 22, 2010, 11:31:13 AM
I like the vertical fight in the 109s. The 109s can regain speed and energy pretty fast.  I like the 109-G2 and the 109-F4 the best. While some other 109 models are faster and have a better gun package. The 109-G2 can turn pretty well and climes very good and even the Spit16 will stall out behind a 109 in a vertical fight with the G2s after a few BnZ climes. The 9 minutes of wep in the 109s don't hurt ether. Harman had it right about firing at close range. I find that firing the cannon only gets a kill better. I take the 150 rds of 20mm gun package and fire up most the 7.92X57 before I fight. A half a tank of fuel and a drop tank you can lose helps to stay lighter once you engage a Target. Stay fast and high. Read Agent360s posts in the HTC forums about flying the 109. His post covers the 109-k4 mostly but it was a big help to me.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Ardy123 on September 22, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
On a more serious note, I suggest the g14 or the k4. Fighting with a tater chucking bird will rearrange how you look at air combat. The 109s have an amazing rate of climb and with some throttle work can lift their nose up and climb even when slow, something most other birds can't do as well.  Furthermore, although it doesn't roll or turn like a spit16, you can 'out turn it' in two ways....

1) it makes a fairly extreme 'egg' shape when turned in the vertical. If you get it sub 100 mph at the top you can turn in a very short amount of space, and use the engine to roll it.

2) Out turning is not so much about 'exact' out turning but rather about creating a difference in e states. I can 'out turn' you if I can slow my plane down much faster than you and get to my corner speed before you can. Spits retain e much better.

Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: grizz441 on September 22, 2010, 12:29:10 PM


Just noticed your sig.  Did you quit or something?
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: CHAPPY on September 22, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
i prefer doggy style since most of the ladys i take home from the bar late at night are not much to look at.  :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: SEseph on September 22, 2010, 03:51:35 PM
i prefer doggy style since most of the ladys i take home from the bar late at night are not much to look at.  :aok

I recommend plastic bags and no lights  :devil
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: oakranger on September 22, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Hartmann style  :airplane:

- stalk-and-ambush tactics
- hold fire until extremely close
- If it's dangerous to dogfight further,  break off and be content with one victory

Marseille style  :joystick:

- prefers high-angle deflection shooting attack and shooting at the target's front from the side
- attacked under conditions many considered unfavorable (diving into enemy formations and risking damage for example), but make an approach fast enough to escape the return fire
- would commit to dogfight to the point of lowering throttle and flaps

Marselli in a P-47. 
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: choker41 on September 22, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
I like to dive down from 10k and kick on the WEP.  Dang thang makes wonderful craters in the countryside :devil
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BrownBaron on September 22, 2010, 05:59:34 PM
Marselli in a P-47. 

I'm not trying to be an bellybutton here, but...he spelled it right there for you, and you still got it wrong...how?
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: RoGenT on September 22, 2010, 08:15:56 PM
My style is pretty simple: Try to land with everything still intact, especially the wings  :airplane:
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: pervert on September 22, 2010, 08:20:06 PM
Ohh my 109 style is Nacho Sidewinder Ken  :rock
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Agent360 on September 22, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Agent360 style

1. take off and fly on deck at 350 mph to the nearest and largest dar bar.

2. When you get there rant on 200 about cowards and chickens.

3. drag unspecting lemming from alt to deck and away from hord.

4. do simple reversal and pop a cap in his head when he flys by.

5. repeat 5 times.

6. land and broadcast on 200 "owange has occured"
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BiPoLaR on September 22, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
Agent360 style

1. take off and auger
2. call them lucky sob's on 200
3. Rinse and repeat

Fixed troy  :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: beau32 on September 22, 2010, 08:49:59 PM
Agent360 style

1. take off and fly on deck at 350 mph to the nearest and largest dar bar.

2. When you get there rant on 200 about cowards and chickens.

3. drag unspecting lemming from alt to deck and away from hord.

4. do simple reversal and pop a cap in his head when he flys by.

5. repeat 5 times.

6. land and broadcast on 200 "owange has occured"



 :rofl


Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Viperius on September 23, 2010, 07:21:47 AM
Swiss Air Force Style:

-Take off
-Kill everything in the sector
-Land

 :D
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: uptown on September 23, 2010, 07:41:09 AM
I like to fly 109s naked.....well i do wear flight goggles and a silk scarf.  :joystick:
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: SEseph on September 23, 2010, 07:54:59 AM
I like to fly 109s naked.....well i do wear flight goggles and a silk scarf.  :joystick:

Make sure they steam clean your plane, toss it in some bleach for a few hours, then scrub it clean until the crew's fingers are nothing more than bloody, boney nubs, before allowing anyone else near it!  :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: zack1234 on September 23, 2010, 08:09:59 AM
side part mid week centre part weekends :old:
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: JB11 on September 23, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
The slow rate of fire of the german cannons plus the poor roll rate of 109s, especially as speed increases, tends to limit my infrequent enthusiasm for 109s to one or two sorties a tour.  And when I do fly em its because I like the skins :)
IT'S TOO HARD!!!!

 :salute 11
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 23, 2010, 10:16:03 AM
IT'S TOO HARD!!!!

 :salute 11
not really.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2010, 10:35:18 AM
"IT'S TOO HARD!!!!

 "not really."

You know. He could be referring to the way his ubervonschlossthingy gets when
he wears the leatherundies of the luftwhiner.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 23, 2010, 10:44:35 AM
kinda like pat boon all lathered up ...I mean leathered  all LEATHERED UP  :bolt:
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: JB11 on September 23, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Hot damn!!! Bagged two with one shot of harsh reality.  Too easy.  :aok

 :salute 11
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: LLogann on September 23, 2010, 11:23:02 AM
We have 109's?

Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BiPoLaR on September 23, 2010, 11:44:48 AM
Hot damn!!! Bagged two with one shot of harsh reality.  Too easy.  :aok

 :salute 11
you really expect most of the guys to smell bait like that so easily?
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 23, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
We have 109's?
not that I know of...
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 23, 2010, 11:49:27 AM
you really expect most of the guys to smell bait like that so easily?

slider.....<sniff>  you stink.
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BiPoLaR on September 23, 2010, 11:51:57 AM
slider.....<sniff>  you stink.
you no love me long time? 5 dolla?
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yeager on September 23, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
you no love me long time? 5 dolla?
'scuse me while I WHIP THIS OUT <ohSNAP>
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Yenny on September 23, 2010, 12:21:12 PM
Marseille style 

for sure=)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Ardy123 on September 23, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
Swiss Air Force Style:

-Take off
-Kill everything in the sector
-Land

 :D
Swiss airforce style?

Oh so you funded the Rooks, Bish & Knits?, while you hid in the mountains?
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 23, 2010, 12:46:36 PM
Swiss airforce style?

Oh so you funded the Rooks, Bish & Knits?, while you hid in the mountains?
The money came from these:

(http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/swiss-army-knife/swiss-army-knife.jpg)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Viperius on September 23, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
The money came from these:

(http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/swiss-army-knife/swiss-army-knife.jpg)

Actually weve built your Navy's 20mm AA Gun and the Brits Hispano Cannon  ;)
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 23, 2010, 02:01:20 PM
Actually weve built your Navy's 20mm AA Gun and the Brits Hispano Cannon  ;)
Technically your weapons companies built those weapons for use by whoever had the money and interest in buying them.   :D
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Belial on September 23, 2010, 07:49:03 PM
Biploar and agent360 arent the same person?????? :uhoh
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: BiPoLaR on September 23, 2010, 08:04:14 PM
Biploar and agent360 arent the same person?????? :uhoh
He augers a bit more than me.At least i can get to the fight before i auger. :devil
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: Larry on September 24, 2010, 02:47:42 AM
i like this skin.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/avasept20longbow.jpg)

Ugliest skin EVAR!
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 24, 2010, 06:14:47 AM
109F using all throttle settings, lure em into turniing fights down low then switch to looping fights to make em all auger as they try to stay with you

I call it the Benny Hill style
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: waystin2 on September 24, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
I kinda like Pig style!  Down in the mud.... :aok
Title: Re: So what style do you prefer when flying 109?
Post by: FiLtH on September 25, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
   If I could fly the things Id fly it as a turner. I like the E best for the wing guns. Cowl guns to me are distracting with the flashes they produce. I usually miss alot.