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Title: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 28, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
Reinforcing EVH's public statement earlier this summer, David Lee Roth has confirmed that Van Halen is in the studio and is on track to releasing a new CD's worth of music in the spring of 2011.

Are there any other die hard VH fans out there like me?  I'm a bit sad that Mikey isn't with VH and has been "replaced" by Wolfgang, but I understand the move.  I'm just glad VH is back in the studio and getting ready to release NEW stuff!    :rock     
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Plazus on September 28, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
I like Van Halen. Hope their new album is something worth listening to!
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: ozrocker on September 29, 2010, 05:12:44 AM
I loved number 1. Saw them open for Sabbath on their first tour in Philadelphia (Spectrum) in 78. But as much as I hate to say it. I hope I'm wrong but, me thinks it'll suck.



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Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: SEraider on September 29, 2010, 05:53:54 AM
I wonder what a more mature DLRoth lyrics be like?  Progressive??? Blahahahahhahaha

I hope it's the VH we all know and love.    :rock
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: caldera on September 29, 2010, 07:49:34 AM
They should have went out on a high note when DLR left the first time. 
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: CAP1 on September 29, 2010, 07:50:04 AM
Reinforcing EVH's public statement earlier this summer, David Lee Roth has confirmed that Van Halen is in the studio and is on track to releasing a new CD's worth of music in the spring of 2011.

Are there any other die hard VH fans out there like me?  I'm a bit sad that Mikey isn't with VH and has been "replaced" by Wolfgang, but I understand the move.  I'm just glad VH is back in the studio and getting ready to release NEW stuff!    :rock     

i liked them with david lee roth. not so much with sammy hagar. not that i didn't like hagar....i just didn't feel that he "fit" with their music.

 hopefully, they'll kick bellybutton like they used to.  :aok
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: branch37 on September 29, 2010, 08:37:03 AM
I'm definitely gonna buy it,  I'm not much of a Hagar fan either, but every album they released with Hagar did quite well so he must not be that bad  :bolt:
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Stalwart on September 29, 2010, 08:38:27 AM
If Van Halen is coming back, maybe big harry popsicle will come back too!~  :devil
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: 1Boner on September 29, 2010, 09:43:04 AM
I hope Eddie doesn't play keyboards in the new stuff.

I don't think he realizes how hokey it sounds.

Okay Eddie we get it! You can play 2 instruments (kinda)

Stick with the guitar. :aok

Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: sluggish on September 29, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
5150 was the best album they did.     :bolt:
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Yeager on September 29, 2010, 04:21:20 PM
the saddest part of this is that M. Anthony is no longer in the band.  I would rather have MA back on bass with Hagar on vox then have Roth back with wee wolfie "shredding" on bass.  Not impressed with anything I have seen or heard from wolfie, although he seems like a real nice kid.

The problem with Vah Halen has always been whats so great about it.  Eddie the M O N S T E R
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: TOMCAT21 on September 30, 2010, 08:42:21 AM
Van Halen will always be my Favorite band.
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Masherbrum on September 30, 2010, 09:19:20 AM
the saddest part of this is that M. Anthony is no longer in the band.  I would rather have MA back on bass with Hagar on vox then have Roth back with wee wolfie "shredding" on bass.  Not impressed with anything I have seen or heard from wolfie, although he seems like a real nice kid.

The problem with Vah Halen has always been whats so great about it.  Eddie the M O N S T E R

QFT!   Michael Anthony's bass playing, but even more important were his harmonies.   
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: RoGenT on September 30, 2010, 10:16:08 AM
I admit, I been VH fan for awhile and don't really care who the singer is. Although few years ago they had that one singer, whatver his name is/was, I didn't care much for. Although I agree Hagar as singer they did very well, but DLR seemed to get them in the main stream originally.
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Masherbrum on September 30, 2010, 10:21:12 AM
I admit, I been VH fan for awhile and don't really care who the singer is. Although few years ago they had that one singer, whatver his name is/was, I didn't care much for. Although I agree Hagar as singer they did very well, but DLR seemed to get them in the main stream originally.

Gary Cherone is a hell of a singer.  He was simply expected to do too much, in the short amount of time given.   It also didn't help that EVH was at the apex of his cocaine addiction.   I blame EVH more than Cherone.
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Nefarious on September 30, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
We need more Van Halen and less Van Hagar
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: AWwrgwy on September 30, 2010, 05:25:50 PM
QFT!   Michael Anthony's bass playing, but even more important were his harmonies.   

+1.

It was his harmonies that kept VH sounding like VH through all the singer changes.



I'm a bit sad that Mikey isn't with VH and has been "replaced" by Wolfgang, but I understand the move. 

Explain it to me.  Loyalty?  MA wanted to work?  Sounded more like sour grapes on VH's part.



wrongway
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Masherbrum on October 01, 2010, 12:58:16 PM
Explain it to me.  Loyalty?  MA wanted to work?  Sounded more like sour grapes on VH's part.

wrongway

Absolutely it was sour grapes.   EVH had often been quoted throughout the 2000's about Hagar's "Cabo Wabo" commercial ventures.   Michael started up a Hot Sauce of all things and it was THIS, that broke the camel's back for EVH and he then turned to his son.    But EVH had no problem using blow, go figure.


Here's a pretty good 2008 interview with Hagar:  "It got to the point where I was the leader of that band. Eddie was a humble, meek guy. Greatest guitar player in the world, but not a leader. I would write the lyrics, and Eddie was happy to just play guitar and play piano. But he woke up one morninig and he decided he wanted his band back. Like I was taking over and I was just the bad guy."

Hagar chalks the problem up to Van Halen's then-new manager (whom he declines to name), who replaced longtime manager Ed Lefler. "From that moment on, everything changed," said Hagar. "If I said to Eddie, 'Let's do this at two o'clock,' Eddie'd go, 'No, no, I wanna do it at noon!' Then Alex would say, 'Noon...two o'clock,' and Eddie would go, 'Okay, one then!' If I said, 'I want the album cover black,' he'd go, 'No, no, no, I want it white!' I'd be like, 'Fine, white then,' and he'd go, 'No, no, no, it's gotta be black!'"

In Hagar's view, Eddie's rampant drug use played another part in the downfall of the "Van Hagar" lineup. "There was always substance abuse in that band. Everybody drank and did this and did that. We had a pretty good time. I probably less then most. Al went completely sober. Eddie was the only guy who was really out there. [The new manager] came in and he got to Eddie, because he was vulnerable.
"


I'm not saying Hagar was "sober" (but he hasn't touched a drop of alcohol, or drugs since 1993 - when he first left the band), but he seemed to recognize the bigger picture.  
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: sluggish on October 01, 2010, 03:04:08 PM
No way Sammy is alcohol free.  Hell, he does tequila shots throughout his shows.  He has his own brand for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 02, 2010, 12:42:07 AM
Absolutely it was sour grapes.   EVH had often been quoted throughout the 2000's about Hagar's "Cabo Wabo" commercial ventures.   Michael started up a Hot Sauce of all things and it was THIS, that broke the camel's back for EVH and he then turned to his son.    But EVH had no problem using blow, go figure.


Here's a pretty good 2008 interview with Hagar:  "It got to the point where I was the leader of that band. Eddie was a humble, meek guy. Greatest guitar player in the world, but not a leader. I would write the lyrics, and Eddie was happy to just play guitar and play piano. But he woke up one morninig and he decided he wanted his band back. Like I was taking over and I was just the bad guy."

Hagar chalks the problem up to Van Halen's then-new manager (whom he declines to name), who replaced longtime manager Ed Lefler. "From that moment on, everything changed," said Hagar. "If I said to Eddie, 'Let's do this at two o'clock,' Eddie'd go, 'No, no, I wanna do it at noon!' Then Alex would say, 'Noon...two o'clock,' and Eddie would go, 'Okay, one then!' If I said, 'I want the album cover black,' he'd go, 'No, no, no, I want it white!' I'd be like, 'Fine, white then,' and he'd go, 'No, no, no, it's gotta be black!'"

In Hagar's view, Eddie's rampant drug use played another part in the downfall of the "Van Hagar" lineup. "There was always substance abuse in that band. Everybody drank and did this and did that. We had a pretty good time. I probably less then most. Al went completely sober. Eddie was the only guy who was really out there. [The new manager] came in and he got to Eddie, because he was vulnerable.
"


I'm not saying Hagar was "sober" (but he hasn't touched a drop of alcohol, or drugs since 1993 - when he first left the band), but he seemed to recognize the bigger picture.  

M. Anthony was forced to sell his "rights" to Van Halen right after the F_ck or Balance album (I forget which one).  The writing was on the wall then.  Also keep in mind that MA hardly contributed to the VH III album.  EVH did most of the studio bass work, MA simply played bass on the VH III tour.

FWIW, I think VH III was a good piece of work, it had a lot of great songs on it.  Rock n Roll was taking a back seat to the RnB/rap crap back in the mid 90's and regardless of what or who was singing lead for VH it would have sold quite a bit less than any SH or DLR fronted work.  I wish Gary would have been able to do one more album before moving on.  Im really crossing my fingers than the new new VH music is just as captivating as the DLR and 5150 stuff was.   :pray
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: TracerX on October 02, 2010, 01:33:01 AM
It seemed like DLR could never be replaced, but after hearing the Hagar stuff, the older DLR stuff seemed like it had less... substance or something.  I like the Hagar years, but that is not to say DLR stuff is not good.  It is all just different, and I think that I might favor the Hagar years if I had to compare.
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: Masherbrum on October 02, 2010, 10:33:16 AM
Sluggish, he's clean.  Folks might think it's tequila, but I'm guessing it's something non-alcoholic. 
Title: Re: Van Halen's New Music
Post by: smoe on October 02, 2010, 04:32:28 PM
 :rock