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Title: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 02, 2010, 05:07:53 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: 100Coogn on October 02, 2010, 05:20:13 PM
  I'm not sure that AHII was intended to be a 'land battle' game.  It's just a plus as far as I can tell.
Maybe you just had a bad sortie.  Try it again and have some fun.

Coogan
Title: Re: Done
Post by: L0nGb0w on October 02, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
" :cry" "I don't want to fight anyone I just wanna blow up buildings and sneak the base and now I can't

The bases are supposed to be hard to take, and combat IS intended.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Scotch on October 02, 2010, 05:24:02 PM
Having to fight actual opponents and using strategy is pretty rough...
I hear solitaire is a good game.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Slash27 on October 02, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on.

It is a combat game you know?
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Jayhawk on October 02, 2010, 05:26:58 PM
 :lol

I can respect that you just aren't having as much fun in the game, that's a good reason to take a break.

But adding that you can't sneak a base with zero opposition as your reason, that's just funny.  Unsubscribe and you can do it offline all you want.  :aok
Title: Re: Done
Post by: StokesAk on October 02, 2010, 05:29:35 PM
Killer get some B17s and climb to 20k, take your rage out on the towns.

After being that high that long you begin to go crazy. (I.E. Chalenge :) )

You will have to return to the ground.

We all have bad days, tomorrow you will land 10,000kills in a jeep.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 02, 2010, 05:38:47 PM
Did I say sneaking bases was the only thing we did? No i didn't. That was only occasionaly. Maybe you should have read the whole post before you started spilling out BS. We were a fighting squad that loved a good battle and spent most of our time doing that. But it's rare you find those anymore and even if you do the eggtards show up within minutes and ruin it. And if the game wasn't meant to have land battles there wouldn't be GV's in the game at all. Its not just been a one day thing either. This has been going on for months.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: 1Boner on October 02, 2010, 05:42:12 PM
Dig tunnels.

I've sailed through mountains on a CV before in this game! BNOE!
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Yeager on October 02, 2010, 05:57:08 PM
Killer91 <S>

It is a war game.  Sometimes it is no fun at all.  Other times its absolutely a nerve wracking blast!  Most of the time its just plain old fun.

If you are finding the game dull then take some time off.  Most of us do from time to time.  Or go to another arena, mid war, early war....find a way to relax and enjoy it again.  Chances are it will do that on its own, or you may have to work at it for a bit.

Title: Re: Done
Post by: JHerne on October 02, 2010, 06:01:12 PM
Exactly. I got fed up with LW so I started hanging out in AvA. Totally different mindset. Its Dicho's fault, blame him. :-)

J

Title: Re: Done
Post by: ink on October 02, 2010, 06:06:11 PM
Aces "High"


just sayin :old:
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Belial on October 02, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
The Gv aspect is only lacking in one way that I can see..atleast for me these days.

I never roll to vehicle bases anymore...because I refuse to take HE in my load when going on a killing sortie..

17lbers get on my nerves...but there suppose to.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Scotch on October 02, 2010, 06:12:19 PM
More appropriately, realize that this game encompasses land, sea, and air, and full interaction between. You have to address threats from the air just as you would ground threats. You could either destroy the ordinance bunkers at the nearby airfields, preventing the enemy any chance to bomb you, or you could get some air cover. Don't be mad at the game when it's your strategy that is lacking.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Boozeman on October 02, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
Did I say sneaking bases was the only thing we did? No i didn't. That was only occasionaly. Maybe you should have read the whole post before you started spilling out BS. We were a fighting squad that loved a good battle and spent most of our time doing that. But it's rare you find those anymore and even if you do the eggtards show up within minutes and ruin it. And if the game wasn't meant to have land battles there wouldn't be GV's in the game at all. Its not just been a one day thing either. This has been going on for months.

You know, there are a few GV that can take out planes rather well...  :noid
Title: Re: Done
Post by: waystin2 on October 02, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Buh Bye!
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Title: Re: Done
Post by: The Jekyll on October 02, 2010, 06:26:55 PM
I don't care who ya are, thats funny right there!
Title: Re: Done
Post by: scot12b on October 02, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
If you like GV  try World of Tanks  :aok
Title: Re: Done
Post by: bravoa8 on October 02, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
If you like GV  try World of Tanks  :aok
A bit arcadey for me I know RO is a good tank sim thought the graphics are a bit outdated.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Slash27 on October 02, 2010, 07:37:15 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on. Sneaking undefended bases was all we did and now it's runied! :cry

Did I say sneaking bases was the only thing we did? No i didn't. That was only occasionaly. Maybe you should have read the whole post before you started spilling out BS. We were a fighting squad that loved a good battle and spent most of our time doing that. But it's rare you find those anymore and even if you do the eggtards show up within minutes and ruin it. And if the game wasn't meant to have land battles there wouldn't be GV's in the game at all. Its not just been a one day thing either. This has been going on for months.

Title: Re: Done
Post by: Masherbrum on October 02, 2010, 08:15:17 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on.

"Well.......bye"
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Title: Re: Done
Post by: JunkyII on October 02, 2010, 08:28:58 PM
"Well.......bye"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)
Great Movie!!!!
Title: Re: Done
Post by: pluck on October 02, 2010, 09:54:40 PM
"Well.......bye"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)

ya good movie, been awhile since i've watched it.  Also good news....my pizza is now baking.  I'm feeling crazy and went with the philly steak on top, hope it works out. :aok
Title: Re: Done
Post by: uptown on October 02, 2010, 09:58:31 PM
 :lol  some folks are just more suited for offline play.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Melvin on October 02, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
Put yer credit card back in yer purse lady.

I bet you can get a lot of tampons for $14.95

On second thought, that was a bit harsh.

I'm sorry that you are losing your drive to play the game fella. The fact of the matter is that I too lost the desire to play for a while. I alleviated this dilemma by finding other areas to have fun in.

Utilize AH for all it's worth. Don't find yourself painted into a corner as far as your fun goes. I can ensure that wherever you go, you will find fun and informative people to interact with.

Try racing, or AvA'ing. If you don't have a blast, you can be mad at me.

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 02, 2010, 10:25:16 PM
Wow I gotta say y'all are some of the most rude and disrespectful people I've ever met.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Melvin on October 02, 2010, 10:30:13 PM
If we are the most rude and disrespectful people you have ever met, then you may consider yourself lucky.

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Done
Post by: RoGenT on October 02, 2010, 10:31:41 PM
Best to just take a break for little while. Hour or two usually helps. I've think we all had days we just want to throw the  :joystick: through the screen, some more than others. I know I certainly have gotten close many times.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Shifty on October 02, 2010, 10:37:17 PM
"Well.......bye"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)
Shut up Ike.  :D
Title: Re: Done
Post by: uptown on October 02, 2010, 10:38:15 PM
Well there Killer what kind of responses were you expecting after you post you're quiting because you can't sneak a base and whine because you get bombed in a WAR game?  
Title: Re: Done
Post by: BGB the 3RD on October 02, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
So you can't have ftr planes give you air cover?

A whine has been recorded ...

Title: Re: Done
Post by: Masherbrum on October 03, 2010, 12:21:16 AM
Well there Killer what kind of responses were you expecting after you post you're quiting because you can't sneak a base and whine because you get bombed in a WAR game?  

 :rock
Title: Re: Done
Post by: R 105 on October 03, 2010, 08:11:38 AM
As for getting bombed like you do at V85. The first thing I do before spawning into V85 is take the time to fly over and pork the ords at A83. No more bomb tards for a while. What I don't like is the long monotonous drives just to get one shot off at another tank before getting bombed. What I want is at least one close tank spawn on every map like V-88 to V85 or like V-135 on another map. Tanks in AH are treated a lot like cigarettes. They are both a legal product but are treat like the plague and their users are ridiculed.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: FiLtH on October 03, 2010, 11:54:50 AM
   Take the time to learn how to fly in the game. Goto training. Goto DA and learn while you burn. Once you get the hang of it you'll wonder why these GVs ever interested you in the first place.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: SlapShot on October 03, 2010, 12:13:28 PM
"Well.......bye"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)

I'm your Huckleberry !!!
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Yeager on October 03, 2010, 12:18:32 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/curlybill.jpg)
Shut up Ike.  :D
Lol....Lunger
Title: Re: Done
Post by: CAP1 on October 03, 2010, 12:23:31 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on.

wow......

if this is really your attitude, i think many here would appreciate you removing your avatar on the side there.............
Title: Re: Done
Post by: TnDep on October 03, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
I agree with the eggtards perk the bombs +1

We all know that there wasn't that many bombs dropped on gv's in the war as in the this game.  It is a little ridiculous that you get in a good even gv battle and you got 500lb bombs blowing you up over and over, wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't as often as it is, so I can agree with him on that. And most of the time the people carrying the bombs are revenge tards that couldn't kill you in the gv to begin with so they up a non opposition plane with a bomb to kill you.   

I don't even mess with the base captures no more just look for a good fight whether by air or ground. Bone and I were in Tigers last night and a set of low B17's were coming in just to take us out and Bone said were dead, I started my engine up as the 17's hit 1.5k range and floored it and turned right.  Demonn was in the 17's and let every bomb he had out and I'm hearing boom booom booooom boooom I look back and bone blew up and I barely escaped the wrath of the bomb slaughter.  I told bone I made it and he said uh huh no way :) so you can have fun even if dozens of bombs are falling out of the sky
 
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Ruah on October 03, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
i recommend World of tanks. . .currently in beta.
after you are burned out with the endless grind there, come back and be happy again.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Becinhu on October 03, 2010, 06:03:33 PM
seeyabye.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: BiPoLaR on October 03, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
 :rofl
someone is butthurt.
I use to be a GV puke. Till i figured out the game is based around planes crashing in to trees. Figure molesting birds and squirrels were better.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: usvi on October 03, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
Wow I gotta say y'all are some of the most rude and disrespectful people I've ever met.

(http://www.veryhappypig.com/page/rude2.jpg)
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Rino on October 03, 2010, 07:13:32 PM
Wow I gotta say y'all are some of the most rude and disrespectful people I've ever met.

      You ought to get out of that basement more  :D
Title: Re: Done
Post by: 321BAR on October 03, 2010, 07:21:20 PM
Having to fight actual opponents and using strategy is pretty rough...
I hear solitaire is a good game.
Ground warfare strategy in the game is much easier than one thinks. i have taken command of many battles on the ground before to lead them to victories
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Belial on October 03, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
There is no answer to the bomb****s...should there be a way to kill gv's from air? yes...


Does it suck and make you want to quit?yes...


Only answer is do something else when one part of aces high ticks you off...fly bombers at 6k and practice tailgunning..
Fly fighters and escort bombers...
Take a jeep and climb the highest mountain...

Or quit because there isnt much else
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Ghosth on October 03, 2010, 07:57:43 PM
Quoted for truth! ^

Up an osti or wirble at a base being attacked and get even is my fav.

Or go attack an enemy town and nail them when the come to look.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: bj229r on October 03, 2010, 08:23:27 PM
The game is just not fun anymore. I'm a GV'er, The planes just aren't that fun to me. With the new town and base layout its basically impossible for 2-3 guys to sneak an airbase with tanks. My squad

used to take GV bases with 2 M8's and an M3. Now you have to get real lucky to do it with that. Everytime a good GV battle gets going, several guys show up and start egging and it takes every last bit

of fun out of it. There's just nothing left for GV'ers to do so I guess its time for me to move on.
This HAS to be at least your 3rd  "I'm done" thread
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Masherbrum on October 03, 2010, 09:10:45 PM
I'm your Huckleberry !!!

You're a daisy if you do.  
Title: Re: Done
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 03, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
To me, AH is a flight sim and the gv aspect of it is just another aspect, if a "lessor" aspect of the experience.  If one wants to experience ground based warfare "simulation"... AH is not the place to be.  While the flight models seem to be industry leading, the gv movement model and the terrain models are just begining to be explored, or so it appears. 

World of Tanks... do a search for it.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: MajWoody on October 04, 2010, 12:31:25 AM
You're a daisy if you do.  

Say when.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Masherbrum on October 04, 2010, 08:01:06 AM
"Maybe poker's just not your game, Ike.  I know: let's have a spelling contest."
Title: Re: Done
Post by: LLogann on October 04, 2010, 11:01:37 AM
Lots of shortsighted people in here, on both sides.  At first I wanted to tell Killer91 how he is wrong, but after seeing all the foolish replies, I can't bring myself to do it. 

Rather... I'll say everybody is way off base.... 

Aces "High" is not an air-combat game, if it were, there would be no gv's at all.  Although WWII air-combat is the primary, HTC has spent alot of time on making the game more dynamic to a broader audience.  And let us not forget some of the "this is an air game" people are the same people wishing for submarines.

As for the op's talk about how hard it is now...  Actually, if you think about it, it was "this" hard when you first logged in as a new player.  Give it a few months and you'll see the town layout in your head.  As for the sneaking of bases, I stole a vBase yesterday morning, by myselfDO NOT sit here and tell me it cannot be done.  Cause I'll be FDR in that Pearl Harbor movie and stand up!!!   :D

GV damage model may not be WWIIOL, but it ain't crap either.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: groundfeeder on October 04, 2010, 11:24:25 AM
Ask anyone who knows..... I'm great at complaining! I do give AH this, the things that work, they keep, the things that don't....they don't

The larger towns are a bit@# to take, but when you do get one.....it "feels" like you have accomplished a bit more that the 30 second destruction of a lightly defended small village.

Better get some buds to up in wirbles or bring your own air cap.

Better yet, kill ords at the base you want to go to town at
Title: Re: Done
Post by: SunBat on October 04, 2010, 11:30:55 AM

Take a jeep and climb the highest mountain...


I know some 38 drivers that will be happy to provide escort.  Just FYI...  :D
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 04, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
So many have taken this completely wrong. After my squadies were gonna quit and i left the squad I loved to sneak airbases by myself. When you sneak a base it almost always gets a a fight going

defending was as much fun as taking the base single handedly. Its just not possible to single handedly take an airbase now. The town is just to big. And the part that EVERYONE seemed to

miss was I love a good fight. I'll up and die over and over untill the eggtards show up, then i'm done. I'm not afraid to fight but I don't hand out free kills to skilless dweebs dropping bombs.

Sneaking bases was something i did on the side when there wern't any good GV battles going. You people would rather jump all over someone rather than even begin to try to understand

what some one really says though  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Jayhawk on October 04, 2010, 11:22:40 PM
I don't think you've made it any better.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 04, 2010, 11:35:37 PM
Well I don't really care. It was my $15 bucks so I could do what I want. I can't get in a good GV battle anymore without being egged and I can't sneak bases anymore.

Thats what I did for fun. I fought in GV's and I snuck bases. I don't have fun with either one now so I'm not gonna pay HTC any more money for a product I don't like. Pretty simple actually.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Jayhawk on October 04, 2010, 11:39:03 PM
I can't get in a good GV battle anymore without being egged and I can't sneak bases anymore.

If that's what is fun for you, obviously you're gonna have trouble finding that in the MA.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: phatzo on October 05, 2010, 01:00:15 AM
a lot of people have recomended world of tanks, if you cant handle being bombed in a GV wait untill you meet Arty.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: BrockS on October 05, 2010, 12:03:33 PM
Not sure why, if your intent is really to quit, you would post it. That's like a person threatening suicide for attention or a chick that breaks up with you whenever she feels she isn't getting enough attention so she can bask in the drama of the ensuing groveling. Did you think that by threatening to quit everyone in Aces would change their gameplay so you wouldn't leave?
 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Done
Post by: grizz441 on October 05, 2010, 12:04:43 PM
I know some 38 drivers that will be happy to provide escort.  Just FYI...  :D

Too soon.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Zoney on October 05, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
Killer, you're being silly.  You want to "have your fun" but do not want the guys dropping bombs to have their fun.
Those guys dont want to run around and kill you in a GV, they want to fly an aircraft and kill whomever they can, you if you're on the ground going "quack quack quack".

Maybe you should learn to fly (in the game), it's fun too.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: greens on October 05, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
Not sure why, if your intent is really to quit, you would post it. That's like a person threatening suicide for attention or a chick that breaks up with you whenever she feels she isn't getting enough attention so she can bask in the drama of the ensuing groveling. Did you think that by threatening to quit everyone in Aces would change their gameplay so you wouldn't leave?
 :headscratch:
immature
Title: Re: Done
Post by: 321BAR on October 05, 2010, 12:35:57 PM
this thread done about being done yet?
Title: Re: Done
Post by: SHawk on October 05, 2010, 02:26:45 PM
Well I really care what you all think, that's why I said I was gone but am still here whining. It was my moms $15 bucks so I could do what I want. I can't spawn camp GV's anymore without being egged and I can't sneak bases anymore.

Thats what I did for fun. I spawn camped in GV's and bombed anyone that killed me. I don't have fun with either one now so I'm not gonna pay HTC any more money for a product I don't like. Pretty simple actually.

fixed :aok
Title: Re: Done
Post by: gyrene81 on October 05, 2010, 02:43:34 PM
a lot of people have recomended world of tanks, if you cant handle being bombed in a GV wait untill you meet Arty.
LMAO, I'd rather take my chances with being dive bombed...flipping arty seems to be pinpoint accurate on the first shot when I'm rolling.


Is the killer done with AH yet? Rather pointless to say "I quit" but stick around so the natives can make fun of you.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 05, 2010, 06:20:02 PM
Ya know since SHawk stuck his nose in here and added nothing but BS I think I'll share the film of him shooting through trees (:
Didn't have film rolling untill his second shot through them. Thats how I knew he was there and I fired that one shot to show
that I couldn't shoot back through to trees to hit him.

http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei (http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei)
Title: Re: Done
Post by: bravoa8 on October 05, 2010, 06:30:30 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 05, 2010, 08:03:59 PM
Ya know since SHawk stuck his nose in here and added nothing but BS I think I'll share the film of him shooting through trees (:
Didn't have film rolling untill his second shot through them. Thats how I knew he was there and I fired that one shot to show
that I couldn't shoot back through to trees to hit him.

http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei (http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei)

Oh, so now you're implying that some is cheating.  Stay classy!

ack-ack
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Lusche on October 05, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
Ya know since SHawk stuck his nose in here and added nothing but BS I think I'll share the film of him shooting through trees (:
Didn't have film rolling untill his second shot through them. Thats how I knew he was there and I fired that one shot to show
that I couldn't shoot back through to trees to hit him.

http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei (http://www.mediafire.com/?68nsezpmh85dfei)


*sigh*

The old "I saw you shooting through trees/ hills" stuff.

1. What you see (and film) is not exactly what the enemy is seeing, due to lag and other reasons that I explain below. I have a ton of films getting shot down while the enemy fighter's rounds pass a few feet behind me. Shall I start to report them for cheating? ;)

2. Only your own rounds show the accurate trajectory on your screen. All graphic representations of other player's rounds flying through the air are simply this: Representations. It is not the EXACT trajectory you are seeing, those calculations are limited to the other guys computer. So while you see a round going seemingly through the edge of a hill, it isn't that way on his computer.

3. Ever seen a tank or Wirbel attacking the old towns or strats? If you really had payed attention, you would have noticed rounds flying through the town, hitting the ground on the other side as if they gad not hit. Yet still buildings exploded. Reason: See #2.

4. Projectile trajectories are not perfect, symmetrical parabolas. They fall a bit steeper than they went up due to air resistance and resulting loss in speed (while gravitational force stays constant.  Angle of fall is steeper than the elevation:
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6809/gundatatrajectorypic.jpg)
So it's quite possible that you can shoot just a tad below a branch of the tree you are sitting under, while your enemy (reverse the trajectory!) will hit that very branch due to steeper angle of fall.

Title: Re: Done
Post by: Killer91 on October 05, 2010, 08:45:40 PM

*sigh*

The old "I saw you shooting through trees/ hills" stuff.

1. What you see (and film) is not exactly what the enemy is seeing, due to lag and other reasons that I explain below. I have a ton of films getting shot down while the enemy fighter's rounds pass a few feet behind me. Shall I start to report them for cheating? ;)

2. Only your own rounds show the accurate trajectory on your screen. All graphic representations of other player's rounds flying through the air are simply this: Representations. It is not the EXACT trajectory you are seeing, those calculations are limited to the other guys computer. So while you see a round going seemingly through the edge of a hill, it isn't that way on his computer.

3. Ever seen a tank or Wirbel attacking the old towns or strats? If you really had payed attention, you would have noticed rounds flying through the town, hitting the ground on the other side as if they gad not hit. Yet still buildings exploded. Reason: See #2.

4. Projectile trajectories are not perfect, symmetrical parabolas. They fall a bit steeper than they went up due to air resistance and resulting loss in speed (while gravitational force stays constant.  Angle of fall is steeper than the elevation:
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6809/gundatatrajectorypic.jpg)
So it's quite possible that you can shoot just a tad below a branch of the tree you are sitting under, while your enemy (reverse the trajectory!) will hit that very branch due to steeper angle of fall.



Yes i know.. Did you actually watch the video though? That doesn't explain what happened in it.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Lusche on October 05, 2010, 08:50:33 PM
Yes i know.. Did you actually watch the video though? That doesn't explain what happened in it.

If you really knew and understood, you would had posted this :).

Go back to my post and read point 1 again :)
Ever been in tower on a CV and seen someone "landing" not on on the CV, but a few feet beside it? Or taking off from not from deck, but also from an "invisible CV deck" a few yards away?. Same thing.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: CAP1 on October 05, 2010, 09:10:21 PM
killer.....don't listen to the lusche dude. he cheats...by practicing, by reading, and by learning. you know you can't listen to someone that learns, now dontcha? :noid
Title: Re: Done
Post by: SHawk on October 05, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
killer.....don't listen to the lusche dude. he cheats...by practicing, by reading, and by learning. you know you can't listen to someone that learns, now dontcha? :noid

He doesn't want to learn anything Cap. Why else would he refuse to fly instead of GV all the time? It's so very typical of today's youth. No Desire to better themselves.
I'm positive he'll be a Liberal Dem when he grows up :O
Title: Re: Done
Post by: CAP1 on October 05, 2010, 09:54:21 PM
He doesn't want to learn anything Cap. Why else would he refuse to fly instead of GV all the time? It's so very typical of today's youth. No Desire to better themselves.
I'm positive he'll be a Liberal Dem when he grows up :O

yea...it's a sad state we're falling into, and i fear you're right sir.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: gyrene81 on October 06, 2010, 01:56:15 PM
Yes i know.. Did you actually watch the video though? That doesn't explain what happened in it.
Hate to point this out Killer but...what you saw as a tree blocking a shot on you, that's not how Shawk or the system rendered it on his side. There have been a lot of fingers pointed at people for what looked like shooting through the trees but for the person who took the shot, that wasn't was he saw.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Dimebag on October 06, 2010, 03:51:45 PM
www dot iracing dot com is 100% bombetard free!!!! :banana: :banana:

The only thing that sucks about it is that it's difficult to master the art of drinking and driving  :O
Title: Re: Done
Post by: bravoa8 on October 06, 2010, 10:08:32 PM
Hey DB been awhile since I've seen you on here. You need to hop on the forums more often to catch up on what's going on...
Title: Re: Done
Post by: oneway on October 07, 2010, 12:03:52 AM
Nobody cares if you or I have fun...

Take for instance some fighter jock who goes out an kills 12 guys on a single run...well guess what...12 suckers had a crappy time at the expense of a single individuals pursuit of 'fun'...

And even the Ace is not satisfied because he wanted 13...

This game has nothing to do with fun...

It's about conquest, greed and lust...at the expense of others..

Not unlike the day to day human experience....

Fun?

Who said this was about fun?

Oneway



Title: Re: Done
Post by: Dimebag on October 07, 2010, 07:54:01 AM
 :salute Mad Skeeters

Will do  :cheers:
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Wiley on October 07, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
It's about conquest, greed and lust...at the expense of others..


Exactly... Fun!  Same as chess, football, any confrontational game/hobby/sport.  Here, nobody gets hurt except maybe their ego from time to time.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Done
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2010, 12:14:27 PM
Nobody cares if you or I have fun...

Take for instance some fighter jock who goes out an kills 12 guys on a single run...well guess what...12 suckers had a crappy time at the expense of a single individuals pursuit of 'fun'...

And even the Ace is not satisfied because he wanted 13...

This game has nothing to do with fun...

It's about conquest, greed and lust...at the expense of others..

Not unlike the day to day human experience....

Fun?

Who said this was about fun?

Oneway





The guy that shot down those 12 I bet sure had fun doing it.  I guess that throws your little 'theory of no fun' right out of the window.


ack-ack