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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: Krusty on October 18, 2010, 10:00:16 PM
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We have a Betty (at least, it's coming).
This opens up some new territory on early and mid PTO scenarios.
What else do we need to redo Rangoon? Rangoon needs some changes and tweaks to the rules and the setup to really make it shine, but the one thing REALLY holding it back all this time has been the lack of a Betty bomber!! Now we have it!
I suppose we could really use some A5Ms or some Ki-43s (what was there? I can't recall specifics). The "Brewster" doesn't really fit as it's far too light and manuverable compared to the real deal (you'd have it winning the war single handedly in AH!). Too bad our P-40B is really a C and not the very-fast B the AVG had. Other than those, I can't see a reason not to redo (or at least think about...) Rangoon!
EDIT: Had an idea in another thread. Yamamoto was shot down in a G4M1-11.... Brings up interesting possibilities, no?
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We have a Betty (at least, it's coming).
This opens up some new territory on early and mid PTO scenarios.
What else do we need to redo Rangoon? Rangoon needs some changes and tweaks to the rules and the setup to really make it shine, but the one thing REALLY holding it back all this time has been the lack of a Betty bomber!! Now we have it!
I suppose we could really use some A5Ms or some Ki-43s (what was there? I can't recall specifics). The "Brewster" doesn't really fit as it's far too light and manuverable compared to the real deal (you'd have it winning the war single handedly in AH!). Too bad our P-40B is really a C and not the very-fast B the AVG had. Other than those, I can't see a reason not to redo (or at least think about...) Rangoon!
EDIT: Had an idea in another thread. Yamamoto was shot down in a G4M1-11.... Brings up interesting possibilities, no?
Oooh, Wake Island special events?
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There are a number of things that can be done with the AVG as well, substituting A6M2s and Betties for Nells (although bit of a stretch to use a G4M1 for a Ki-21 as was often used over China). There was an interesting documentary a while back (I said "interesting," not necessarily "accurate") where an AVG pilot tells of scrambling to chase down Ki-21s or some such in a dawn/dusk setting, sighting the flames from their exhausts, shooting down 2 but catching on fire and landing in a river to douse it.
Brings up a lot of the ol'e imagination in me!
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Soloman islands event would be awesome.
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I'm trying to figure out what a "better" is? :D
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Hell if i know.. I swear I typed "Betty" in there. Why would I hit ER instead of Y? They're not even near each other? I blame the forums... OMG! Hitech installed AUTO spellcheck!??!?!
:noid
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The radiation is getting to you.
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My first thought was Guadalcanal, we have the planes for it.
G4M1-11
A6M2 (I believe there were also some A6M3's in service at Rabaul at the time as well which we unfortunately don't have yet)
D3A
B5N
F4F-4
SBD
TBM
P-39D
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My first thought was Guadalcanal, we have the planes for it.
G4M1-11
A6M2 (I believe there were also some A6M3's in service at Rabaul at the time as well which we unfortunately don't have yet)
D3A
B5N
F4F-4
SBD
TBM
P-39D
Ooohhh.... my likey.
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Ooohhh.... my likey.
Excellent!
+1
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I am thinking.. "Cactus" is a good title.
Or.. "The Slot"... hmm maybe not that.
Don't forget this opens up Rabaul as an option. Not to mention the New Guniea Campaign with the 5th AF.
And it makes doing Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz with other actions thrown in easier as well.
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I am thinking.. "Cactus" is a good title.
Or.. "The Slot"... hmm maybe not that.
Don't forget this opens up Rabaul as an option. Not to mention the New Guniea Campaign with the 5th AF.
And it makes doing Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz with other actions thrown in easier as well.
We should get some PTO scenarios lined up for next year, I'd like to see one revisited that was just short of the Bettys and one that's never been tried before. Also on the subject of looking a bit ahead, maybe try to schedule a BoB for next year to coincide with the end of summer and start of fall. And my last cent to throw in would be, did anyone ever look into doing a scenario involving the new brewster (are we waiting on more early russian aircraft?) or the new mossie variant?
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There are three things which must be considered for scenarios. They are in no particular order..
1. Planeset.
2. Can it be replicated in the HTC game system.
3. Terrains.
Terrains are the key to it all. In order to run events you have to have a battle ground to fly over.
The CM terrain team is a top notch dedicated group who are constantly updating the maps we have and bringing out new ones for our use. This year alone they added Mindano which was the source of the last scenario, Germany, Greece and Okinawa.
As more terrains become available it opens up more options for events.
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We could use an He-111, I suppose. At the very least we could use a few more Ju-88 variants.
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None of those have any bearing in the PTO or in the Rangoon scenario, brown....
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What we don't have are Aussie Beaufighters! New Guiniea, Rabaul, Bismarck Sea, all had the Aussie Beaus there. Don't even get me started on the CBI Beaus!
Subtle enough hint ya think? :)
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We just don't need Beaufighters until we have more targets for them to attack.
They are a waste of time to develop and take the spot of plane(s) more desperately needed, which contributed to the war effort in a vastly greater level(s). Like say, I dunno, the TDB Devastator for example.
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We just don't need Beaufighters until we have more targets for them to attack.
They are a waste of time to develop and take the spot of plane(s) more desperately needed, which contributed to the war effort in a vastly greater level(s). Like say, I dunno, the TDB Devastator for example.
Ouch! Coulda used any number of planes, but the Devastator? What did I ever do to you Fencer!?! :)
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I've been anxiously waiting for a '42/'43 New Guinea scenario for a couple years now, as well as Rabaul.
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Hrm.. what about early Soviet encounters? The Betty model 11 is pretty close overall to the G3M2/M3 that saw extensive use the first year of the war, give or take. Might have something with I-16s, maybe, trying to attack the Betty in a 1939 environment?
Flamability of the Betty countered by the speed of the craft and the limiting of the I-16s to MGs only, might be worth considering (also, A6M2s vs I-16s is an interest game matchup)
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My first thought was Guadalcanal, we have the planes for it.
G4M1-11
A6M2 (I believe there were also some A6M3's in service at Rabaul at the time as well which we unfortunately don't have yet)
D3A
B5N
F4F-4
SBD
TBM
P-39D
This one would be fun. Love the PTO setups :aok
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I've been anxiously waiting for a '42/'43 New Guinea scenario for a couple years now, as well as Rabaul.
An early New Guinea scenario is what I've been hoping for since the Betty. Although a scenario named "Cactus" would be neat too. :)
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My first thought was Guadalcanal, we have the planes for it.
G4M1-11
A6M2 (I believe there were also some A6M3's in service at Rabaul at the time as well which we unfortunately don't have yet)
D3A
B5N
F4F-4
SBD
TBM
P-39D
I believe we did it previously in July 2004. A better planeset does exist now! :)
http://www.kkenshome.com/guadalcanal.html
One of a few images of me diving in on a large shipping group! :rofl
(http://www.kkenshome.com/cmc/images/ahssgccvspotted1.jpg)
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I believe we did it previously in July 2004. A better planeset does exist now! :)
http://www.kkenshome.com/guadalcanal.html
One of a few images of me diving in on a large shipping group! :rofl
(http://www.kkenshome.com/cmc/images/ahssgccvspotted1.jpg)
Yep been done before, I walked on for a frame and flew F4F's out of Henderson. If memory serves we had to sub skinned JU-88's for the axis bombers which just killed the immersion for me (although necessary with the tools available at the time.)
Ideally I'd like to see the A6M's get a face lift here soon too.
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We have a Betty (at least, it's coming). This opens up some new territory on early and mid PTO scenarios. EDIT: Had an idea in another thread. Yamamoto was shot down in a G4M1-11.... Brings up interesting possibilities, no?
Hi Krusty,
A "Find Yamamoto" event would be,to say the least, exotic... One arena filled with P-38's searching frantically for 3 Bettys and his escorts... LOL!
Cheers,
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That would be horribly boring and no fun for the Japanese side...
No, I was thinking more along something inspired by it. Such as an offensive push by the japanese in frame 1 along some fictional (or real?) islands... Then in frame 2 you have several attacks/defenses as you normally would find, but that a side-goal would be for hunting down and finding a flight of 3 betty bombers with light escorts. You would have to devote resources meaning you lessen the impact you can do elsewhere, but IF found and shot down (maybe make a rule no more than 1 squad can engage at a time? others have to shadow it?) it would change Frame 3. If Yamamoto is shot down in Frame 2, then the allies go offensive in frame 3, but if Yamamoto gets through alive the Japanese are on the push in frame 3. I don't know off the top of my head about a 4th frame just yet.
This way there would be that element of Yamamoto's being shot down, but it wouldn't be the only thing. It would change the event, but NOT end the event or pre-determine the event.
That's what I had in mind, or something like that.