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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DEECONX on October 21, 2010, 09:00:12 PM
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So, thinking about getting into Airsoft. Actually been thinking about it for a few years, just kinda been dancing around he idea. I guess I'm what you would call a (ch)airsofter. Anyways, was wondering what you guys thought of it, or even if you play. Couple a reasons I like it:
1) I probably dont get the excercise I need, and a hobby that gets me moving and outside more often is always a good thing.
2) Realism. I have played Paintball, and it is fun, but is more of a "game" than a RL sim I guess. Whereas Airsoft seems more realistic. IMHO anyways.
3) Just looks fun! I watch alot of youtube vids on it (scoutthedoggie in particular) and it looks like they are having a lot of fun!
Anyways, just let me know what you think! :aok and :salute
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Squid got into Airsoft a few years ago. It was a passing fancy due to A) lack of time and B) lack of funds. I managed to get us a pair of full metal gas blowbacks and we had a blast with them. He made most of his best friends from playing at the creek. Personally I can see how it can become addictive but wear protection. Those teflon bb's HURT.
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
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I've always saw Airsoft as a scaled down version of Paintball (in all aspects: pain, cost, etc). I've always wanted to try it, but I hear that paintball is more painful, and that's why I just keep playing it.
Have you seen Rap4's new paintball gear? Co2 tank hidden in the butt of the gun, 18 round magazine clips. Looks like like a real rifle. Paintball is slowly becoming just a realistic as airsoft now. :t
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You'll poke your eye out kid!
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I'm commander of an airsoft team 15 men strong(people couldn't afford guns). It's fun but costly, my advice is get a metal bodied and geared gun because it will last longer, green gas guns dint work well in winter and co2 guns are limited to pistols. It's an extreamly fun sport honesty, but you have to invest time and money into it.
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
Send me some pics and specs.
Perhaps I can conjure a few up :devil
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
Why not? Dosnt sound like he's gonna open a shop, he just wants a new weekend hobby.
Airsoft is great fun, but like others have said it can be expensive to start up. Its only fun for me with a lot of people. We have some pretty big fields here so anything under 20 people gets boring.
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
Typical paranoia. Although cops aren't the biggest fans, the fun factor is well worth it. It was only one manufacturer that made lower receivers too close too real. However, they use cheap steel, so even when someone tried to convert it, it could only fire a few rounds. I've been into airsoft for years, and yes, the initial cost is expensive, but even mid range guns have a reasonable price. I paid 600+ for something that I can get for 200 nowadays. And, over paintball, the ammo is far cheaper per round, and it doesn't make a huge mess like paintball (Especially a factor when shootin in your own yard).
Don't be discouraged by the diehard paintballers/airsoft haters. I used to paintball also, and it got way to gamey. besides, a 300 round airsoft magazine is much more fun than an 18 round paintball mag.
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I'm commander of an airsoft team 15 men strong(people couldn't afford guns). It's fun but costly, my advice is get a metal bodied and geared gun because it will last longer, green gas guns dint work well in winter and co2 guns are limited to pistols. It's an extreamly fun sport honesty, but you have to invest time and money into it.
Uh oh, you're lapsing back into compulsive lying :(
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Why not? Dosnt sound like he's gonna open a shop, he just wants a new weekend hobby.
Airsoft is great fun, but like others have said it can be expensive to start up. Its only fun for me with a lot of people. We have some pretty big fields here so anything under 20 people gets boring.
Oh hey, your in Tucson! Ever play with some guys, uh like Adrian (spelling?) and Alex? Dont know them personally but watched a bunch of videos yesterday of a field in Tucson where they played and it looked like a lot of fun. They played alot of rescue missions that was fun to watch. Would be sweet to play down there, but Im out here on the East Coast.
Yeah, the guns I was checking out were all full metal. Specifically the Ares M4A1 and the KJW KP07 M1911.
Thanks for the response guys!
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I had one of these shipped into the country (Aus) about 20 years ago. Don't think I could get away with it these days. The curious thing is that I have no idea where it is now :(
(http://www.thewarstore.org/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_7_94.jpg)
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I had one of these shipped into the country (Aus) about 20 years ago. Don't think I could get away with it these days. The curious thing is that I have no idea where it is now :(
(http://www.thewarstore.org/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_7_94.jpg)
NOT GOOD!
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FYI even if you're not going to get into Airsoft in simulated combat a full metal gas blowback pistol is FUN. The squirrels in my neighborhood hear me pulling the slide back and they go somewhere else.
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while i was with te coast guard we used them to train in hostile situations. of course we would get carried away after hours and have assault teams made up and take over the base while a few defended against them. never had so much fun.
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FYI even if you're not going to get into Airsoft in simulated combat a full metal gas blowback pistol is FUN. The squirrels in my neighborhood hear me pulling the slide back and they go somewhere else.
Hehe, yeah, I really, REALLY want a full metal GBB pistol :D
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<----Pictures Salem running around the neighborhood with this :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_djlYMFK6s&feature=related
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Any gas blowback is awesome. I have the G18C full auto pistol & a SCAR. Only down side is the capacity.
But then again for realism...
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<----Pictures Salem running around the neighborhood with this :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_djlYMFK6s&feature=related
:lol I wish!
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
rofl what a joke in a country with the second amendment that states congress shall not enact anylaw limiting our rights to own guns....we can even get air soft guns....what a joke...if their was ever a time for armed rebellion the time is now.....how can the govt destroy 2 businesses....no wonder we are such a crap country....
anytime law enforcement or the govt infringes on our rights we have the right and duty to resist even if that means killing them....they have no right to tell us what firearms we can and cant have, and if and when they do...they are gonna get killed...i dont care how many cops come to infringe on my rights. Historically only the slave class was not allowed to own weapons of any kind....this is what they are trying to do with the american people...the sad thing is americans are so stupid that they dont even see it coming.
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rofl what a joke in a country with the second amendment that states congress shall not enact anylaw limiting our rights to own guns....we can even get air soft guns....what a joke...if their was ever a time for armed rebellion the time is now.....how can the govt destroy 2 businesses....no wonder we are such a crap country....
anytime law enforcement or the govt infringes on our rights we have the right and duty to resist even if that means killing them....they have no right to tell us what firearms we can and cant have, and if and when they do...they are gonna get killed...i dont care how many cops come to infringe on my rights. Historically only the slave class was not allowed to own weapons of any kind....this is what they are trying to do with the american people...the sad thing is americans are so stupid that they dont even see it coming.
I'm sure the guns were not confiscated because of the fact that they are weapons. They more than likely had some illegal substance, such as lead, in them as a result of manufacturing proceses. This is no different than if I brought fruit from Africa with me on a flight back to the US and it was confiscated by customs for a pest present in Africa that is not present in the US.
If you do not like the country, you are free to move to North Korea and see how things are over there. I'm sure you'd be missing the Bill of Rights within the hour.
As for your rebellion, nowhere in our constitution does it state that we are free to kill agents of our government if they no longer provide a governmental system in compliance with our constitution.
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I thought airsoft was fun, I did it for a few months. But the fields were kinda pricey at times. Was like 20 bucks to go there...each time. I mean it was a big place, like 20 acres, were cars, buses, all kinds of stuff. Just got pricey.
-BigBOBCH
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I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
:huh :huh :huh :huh
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I'm sure the guns were not confiscated because of the fact that they are weapons. They more than likely had some illegal substance, such as lead, in them as a result of manufacturing proceses. This is no different than if I brought fruit from Africa with me on a flight back to the US and it was confiscated by customs for a pest present in Africa that is not present in the US.
If you do not like the country, you are free to move to North Korea and see how things are over there. I'm sure you'd be missing the Bill of Rights within the hour.
As for your rebellion, nowhere in our constitution does it state that we are free to kill agents of our government if they no longer provide a governmental system in compliance with our constitution.
Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all … it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)
support freedom kill cops and any other us govt employee who infringes on your freedoms....
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See Rule #14
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See Rule #14
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:huh
seriously?
yea seriously because that is called legal precedent. if anyone is infringing on your rights or trying to harm you even if they are law enforcement or a simple criminal you have the right to defend your self even if that means you must kill....you have the obligation to defend your self, because if you let some cop infringe on your freedoms with out resistance, they are probably going to do it again to someone else...instead it is your duty to stop it.
by the way in my state cops are so stupid that if someone has an iq that is too high they wont let them be cops....they just take the simple minded people who are easy to manipulate...but honestly idont think anyone is surprised at this....
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OOOOOOOkkkkaaaayyyyyy..... :rolleyes:
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Well, this went downhill fast.
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I'm sure the guns were not confiscated because of the fact that they are weapons. They more than likely had some illegal substance, such as lead, in them as a result of manufacturing proceses. This is no different than if I brought fruit from Africa with me on a flight back to the US and it was confiscated by customs for a pest present in Africa that is not present in the US.
If you do not like the country, you are free to move to North Korea and see how things are over there. I'm sure you'd be missing the Bill of Rights within the hour.
As for your rebellion, nowhere in our constitution does it state that we are free to kill agents of our government if they no longer provide a governmental system in compliance with our constitution.
why worry about lead when their is fluoride in most of the drinking water in this country...thats poison right there, the difference is we dont go around consuming guns....what about BPA a plastic that is very common namely in the soda and beer cans as a lining to the inside of the can...that causes males to turn sterile and wreaks havoc with hormones....what about vaccines, they cant make those with out mercury and other substances that can cause negative health effects especially in children and babies, these are all things that probably once in a while woudlnt hurt us but these are things that people use on a daily basis, consuming and increasing our risk...none of that matter we gotta stop these air soft guns, we cant let these hit the streets of this country, because it could have poison in them...so if the govt really wanted to help us why dont they get rid of some of the poisons that we come in contact with in our daily lives, not withholding air soft guns causing businesses that employed people to go out of business...
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but if our constitutional rights are infringed upon then we do have the right to resist....
its like the idiots who join the army swear an oath to the Constitution...and then immediately participate in illegal wars that were not started by congress...americans are nothing more than a bunch of retarded hypocrites...all i know is the more american troops that are killed the better cuz idont want them back if they are stupid enough to fight in a war not authorized by congress....
Wow. Did you momma forget to love you when you were a child? Stating that "the more dead the better" is quite shallow. Do not be so quick to call the members of the US military "idiots", you're bound to be hunted down, drawn and quartered, and have the last remaining life burned out of you.
FWIW, the US Congress did authorize the continued force of out military for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. No, they did not send them, President Bush did and he has that right as he is the CiC of all US military forces. After the obvious shortcomings of the checks and balances of the use of the US military as sho0wn during the Vietnam War, the US Congress passed laws stating that they have to give continued approval once troops are deployed, etc. I forgot the exact details but I'm sure you can find the particulars for yourself. There is nothing illegal about the conflicts overseas. Hold fast thy tongue!
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Wow. Did you momma forget to love you when you were a child? Stating that "the more dead the better" is quite shallow. Do not be so quick to call the members of the US military "idiots", you're bound to be hunted down, drawn and quartered, and have the last remaining life burned out of you.
FWIW, the US Congress did authorize the continued force of out military for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. No, they did not send them, President Bush did and he has that right as he is the CiC of all US military forces. After the obvious shortcomings of the checks and balances of the use of the US military as sho0wn during the Vietnam War, the US Congress passed laws stating that they have to give continued approval once troops are deployed, etc. I forgot the exact details but I'm sure you can find the particulars for yourself. There is nothing illegal about the conflicts overseas. Hold fast thy tongue!
so its ok that i am hunted down and drawn and quartered for simply making a statement, but the second i say defend your freedoms even if that means you just kill cops or other us govt personnel im the bad guy??
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Crappiest troll I've seen in awhile.
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So...can we keep this about airsoft please? Thanks.
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so its ok that i am hunted down and drawn and quartered for simply making a statement, but the second i say defend your freedoms even if that means you just kill cops or other us govt personnel im the bad guy??
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support freedom kill cops and any other us govt employee who infringes on your freedoms....
Gotcha. Post office runs out of stamps, it is our duty as Americans to kill them all.
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Gotcha. Post office runs out of stamps, it is our duty as Americans to kill them all.
the post office dosent receive tax money to fund it, it might get a few grants here and there but overall the usps is self funded for the most part....
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its like the idiots who join the army swear an oath to the Constitution...and then immediately participate in illegal wars that were not started by congress...americans are nothing more than a bunch of retarded hypocrites...all i know is the more american troops that are killed the better cuz idont want them back if they are stupid enough to fight in a war not authorized by congress....
Let me be the first to say, that as a man who has signed his name on that dotted line to give his life for his country, that you sir, are unfit to lick the mud from my boots after a statement like that. Please extract your head from your worthless, idiotic arse before you should be so unfortunate as to make that statement in front of someone physically present to do it for you.
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Let me be the first to say, that as a man who has signed his name on that dotted line to give his life for his country, that you sir, are unfit to lick the mud from my boots after a statement like that. Please extract your head from your worthless, idiotic arse before you should be so unfortunate as to make that statement in front of someone physically present to do it for you.
if i recall most of the wars we fought in the last 5 decades were not declared by congress..
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So...can we keep this about airsoft please? Thanks.
So...can we keep this about airsoft please? Thanks.
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DEE, i sent you a PM.
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if i recall most of the wars we fought in the last 5 decades were not declared by congress..
Name a declared war we have fought in the past 5 decades? ;) Did you go research the law I referenced about the use of the US military?
I'm not sure how or why you're bringing up "killin LEO's" in a thread about airsoft. As one of those LEO's you'd think you'd try killin to defend your freedom, I again say to you "hold fast your tongue and think before you speak!" I'm also not sure why you think LEO's would be your enemy, I've yet to meet a fellow deputy/officer that would follow blind orders to violate the rights of you or any other nay-sayer. Relax a bit, Francis.
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Name a declared war we have fought in the past 5 decades? ;) Did you go research the law I referenced about the use of the US military?
I'm not sure how or why you're bringing up "killin LEO's" in a thread about airsoft. As one of those LEO's you'd think you'd try killin to defend your freedom, I again say to you "hold fast your tongue and think before you speak!" I'm also not sure why you think LEO's would be your enemy, I've yet to meet a fellow deputy/officer that would follow blind orders to violate the rights of you or any other nay-sayer. Relax a bit, Francis.
you mentioned checks and balances and if i recall from BASIC US history class president is cic but to balance that power out congress has the sole ability to declare war...that means the president cant just send troops on the large scale to where ever he/she wants, even small "police actions" could be considered a declaration of war, that the president has in effect just authorized... even the notion of standing armies were a foreign concept to the founding fathers and for good reason, that is a bit more complicated issues and one that i dont even have an answer to, but if we keep making concessions with the govt and the power we give them, soon we might find ourselves homeless on the land our fathers died for...even eisenhower warned us against this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
or full video (two parts) recommended http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_fyDV7Mnk&feature=related
vietnam was started before congress passed it, not to mention the new information about the gulf of tonkin incident that was declassified in 2005 particularly about the second attack that may not have actually occurred....
law enforcement that infringes on rights or seeks to harm people, need to be held accountable (because cops kill or otherwise harm innocent people on an almost daily basis http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/). Obviously not all of them are bad, but those who are should be held accountable (often times cops who get in trouble essentially get time off with pay and thats about it, not to mention all the other aspects of the process where the defendant is given preferential treatment b/c of his status as law enforcement) and if people would defend themselves they might find that cops will maybe think twice before they pull a gun on someone who is not a threat to them or shoot someone for no reason (or their pets for that matter)
in my opinion abuse of trust especially when its used to commit a crime makes it the ultimate offense, and needs to be punished as such to make abusing power do unappealing that it hardly happens, and when it does the public has the ability to defend it self.
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So...can we keep this about airsoft please? Thanks.
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what he said. Seriously. Take the political discussion to pm's or something.
ya know capping your teenage son in the thigh provided he's wearing long pants is comedy gold. Until he returns the favor :D
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what he said. Seriously. Take the political discussion to pm's or something.
ya know capping your teenage son in the thigh provided he's wearing long pants is comedy gold. Until he returns the favor :D
there is an airsoft place near my house drove by it a few times
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you mentioned checks and balances and if i recall from BASIC US history class president is cic but to balance that power out congress has the sole ability to declare war...that means the president cant just send troops on the large scale to where ever he/she wants, even small "police actions" could be considered a declaration of war, that the president has in effect just authorized... even the notion of standing armies were a foreign concept to the founding fathers and for good reason, that is a bit more complicated issues and one that i dont even have an answer to, but if we keep making concessions with the govt and the power we give them, soon we might find ourselves homeless on the land our fathers died for...even eisenhower warned us against this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
or full video (two parts) recommended http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_fyDV7Mnk&feature=related
vietnam was started before congress passed it, not to mention the new information about the gulf of tonkin incident that was declassified in 2005 particularly about the second attack that may not have actually occurred....
I am very well aware of the laws regarding the declaration of war by the US against another sovereign nation. Perhaps you are not reading thoroughly enough what I posted earlier. You just repeated everything I already pointed out about who can do what when.
The conflict in Vietnam and the unchecked use of our military is what caused those rules and laws to be instigated.
Another bit of advice, go read the Federalist (and Anti-Federalist) Papers. You might learn a thing or two on the thoughts of the Founders of these United States. ;)
EDIT: I play pintball, airsoft is for wanna-be's. There is nothing more fun than a scenario game that takes the weekend to complete. :)
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why worry about lead when their is fluoride in most of the drinking water in this country...thats poison right there, the difference is we dont go around consuming guns....what about BPA a plastic that is very common namely in the soda and beer cans as a lining to the inside of the can...that causes males to turn sterile and wreaks havoc with hormones....what about vaccines, they cant make those with out mercury and other substances that can cause negative health effects especially in children and babies, these are all things that probably once in a while woudlnt hurt us but these are things that people use on a daily basis, consuming and increasing our risk...none of that matter we gotta stop these air soft guns, we cant let these hit the streets of this country, because it could have poison in them...so if the govt really wanted to help us why dont they get rid of some of the poisons that we come in contact with in our daily lives, not withholding air soft guns causing businesses that employed people to go out of business...
At what point in your life did you fail to understand you are not a doctor nor a research epidemiologist? Your sharing of this mercury vaccine urban myth is as irresponsible as publicely calling for the killing of police officers in a forum for an Internet kiddy game. In Denmark after thimerosal was no longer in any childood vacciens the rates of autism contiued to rise between 1991-96. Same results here in the U.S. This whole issue came out of JFK Jr. trying to put his name in lights along side his uncle Teddy based on extreamly bad scientific research.
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From the Autism Blog:
CDC: “Thank you, Sallie, May We Have Another?”
A CDC study released yesterday found no evidence to support “a causal association between early exposure to mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines and immune globulins and deficits in neuropsychological functioning at the age of 7 to 10 years.” In other words, vaccines don’t scramble your brain.
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2007/09/cdc-thank-you-sallie-may-we-have-another/
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If you read the science behind BPA (Bisphenol A ) this is more likely a possible source for the increase in autism levels in the U.S. It's use in canned products and baby plastic feeding devices has corrisponded with the advent of our high levels of autism in children. It became a standard in food and drink containers starting 50 years ago. It's effects on lab animals was documanted in the 1930's. It's wide spread use in all aspects of our lives may now be returning to bite us in the kester because of recent studies showing links to obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, and defects of our neurobiology. You may have noticed there has been an ongong increase in the occurences of these issues since the end of the 1970's. But, the science is only just starting to come in.
Canadian fish population studies have shown in waters contaminated with BPA there are higher occurences of femal than male fish. It also kills some forms of planktonic life, bivalves and crustations. But, again the science is not in on the whole matter. You are simply spreading self serving histeria to serve your ideological need for a dogmatic meth fix.
You spread Urban Legend and bad science like a 13 year old.
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At what point in your life did you fail to understand you are not a doctor nor a research epidemiologist? Your sharing of this mercury vaccine urban myth is as irresponsible as publicely calling for the killing of police officers in a forum for an Internet kiddy game. In Denmark after thimerosal was no longer in any childood vacciens the rates of autism contiued to rise between 1991-96. Same results here in the U.S. This whole issue came out of JFK Jr. trying to put his name in lights along side his uncle Teddy based on extreamly bad scientific research.
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From the Autism Blog:
CDC: “Thank you, Sallie, May We Have Another?”
A CDC study released yesterday found no evidence to support “a causal association between early exposure to mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines and immune globulins and deficits in neuropsychological functioning at the age of 7 to 10 years.” In other words, vaccines don’t scramble your brain.
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2007/09/cdc-thank-you-sallie-may-we-have-another/
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If you read the science behind BPA (Bisphenol A ) this is more likely a possible source for the increase in autism levels in the U.S. It's use in canned products and baby plastic feeding devices has corrisponded with the advent of our high levels of autism in children. It became a standard in food and drink containers starting 50 years ago. It's effects on lab animals was documanted in the 1930's. It's wide spread use in all aspects of our lives may now be returning to bite us in the kester because of recent studies showing links to obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, and defects of our neurobiology. You may have noticed there has been an ongong increase in the occurences of these issues since the end of the 1970's. But, the science is only just starting to come in.
Canadian fish population studies have shown in waters contaminated with BPA there are higher occurences of femal than male fish. It also kills some forms of planktonic life, bivalves and crustations. But, again the science is not in on the whole matter. You are simply spreading self serving histeria to serve your ideological need for a dogmatic meth fix.
You spread Urban Legend and bad science like a 13 year old.
its not an urban myth the mercury essentially is there as some sorta preservative or something from what i understand in fact their are a few substances that are harmful... i mean they admit that they can cause problems, and some vaccines have been known to harm people in the uk kids who got shots started to have convulsions and so they stopped it for a while...and a few other countries have done the same thing...id rather get the flu like a normal person be sick for a day or two and get on with life, the flu is just a mild inconvenience most of the time...but then a few times its been a bit rough but over all its generally mild.
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support freedom kill cops and any other us govt employee who infringes on your freedoms....
You seriously have a problem,im glad your getting your lil rocks off posting crap like this, its just a matter of when the ban stick swings
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meh don't feed the trolls
so back to Airsoft.. using a slower fps weapon is a great disciplinary tool for canines :devil
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(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/AKAFP.jpg)
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It's very fun, I've done it for years now with some friends, we've never really gone to any public fields or anything, though. Cheaper than paintball, I think it's more fun as well.
I advise you not to get into it. A lot of the guns are made across seas and customs are stopping any shipment to come into U.S. Our two local airsoft stores went under because of this. They had orders over $20,000 that they can not get and lost all the money too. Also, law enforcement are cracking g down on them too. It seems that some people got creative by make these gun fire live rounds.
That's interesting, there's always been problems with importation of airsoft guns because of copyright infringements (some companies like to be very, very detailed) but I've never heard of this (been out of the loop for a long old time though).
Bolded is impossible btw, sensationalism etc.
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(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/AKAFP.jpg)
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It's very fun, I've done it for years now with some friends, we've never really gone to any public fields or anything, though. Cheaper than paintball, I think it's more fun as well.
That's interesting, there's always been problems with importation of airsoft guns because of copyright infringements (some companies like to be very, very detailed) but I've never heard of this (been out of the loop for a long old time though).
Bolded is impossible btw, sensationalism etc.
Wow whats it made out of, metal? looks like the real ones i have in my gun safe , impressive craftsmanship
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Wow whats it made out of, metal? looks like the real ones i have in my gun safe , impressive craftsmanship
As in a real AK-74, receiver & stock is stamped from steel (with a bit of rust to prove it), though I believe the the rest of the steel parts are cast. All of the spotwelds and such are there as well.
Handguards are wood, although only the bottom handguard is laminated as you'd find in a real Izhmash AK, the top is just from a solid chunk of wood.
Copied just as well as the mainlanders really copied the AK47 (was made in Taiwan). :)
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My friend is having a bit of magazine well trouble:
It's an M4-style D-Boys AEG, and there are some wires that have poked through the upper reciever and into the magazine well. This appears to put pressure on the magazine catch, and I'm worried that it's only a matter of time before it breaks. Are there any solutions?
-Penguin
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My friend is having a bit of magazine well trouble:
It's an M4-style D-Boys AEG, and there are some wires that have poked through the upper reciever and into the magazine well. This appears to put pressure on the magazine catch, and I'm worried that it's only a matter of time before it breaks. Are there any solutions?
-Penguin
Don't buy cheap AEG's. Anyways, can you provide a picture? This sounds like he'll have to disassemble the rifle completely.
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What's that noise?
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Some of my collection.
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4386/forumguns009yo4.jpg)
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1247/forumguns007hm6.jpg)
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6062/forumguns006mq3.jpg)
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6513/forumguns003bt0.jpg)
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8721/forumguns001ic4.jpg)
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7484/forumguns010.jpg)
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I'd like #2 and #4 please :D
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5000 round box mag :rock
The xm-177 fires at 340fps has a tighter barrel and large 3000mah battery. I also have a moscart launcher usually fitted under the barrel, when I took the picture they werent allowed at the last meeting.
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EDIT: I play pintball, airsoft is for wanna-be's. There is nothing more fun than a scenario game that takes the weekend to complete. :)
Operation Irene. 3 day (AIRSOFT)event at Fort Knox, lead by men like US Army Ranger Col. Danny McKnight. :aok
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5000 round box mag :rock
The xm-177 fires at 340fps has a tighter barrel and large 3000mah battery. I also have a moscart launcher usually fitted under the barrel, when I took the picture they werent allowed at the last meeting.
that's one of the coolest things I've seen this week dude...I'm jealous
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rofl what a joke in a country with the second amendment that states congress shall not enact anylaw limiting our rights to own guns....we can even get air soft guns....what a joke...if their was ever a time for armed rebellion the time is now.....how can the govt destroy 2 businesses....no wonder we are such a crap country....
anytime law enforcement or the govt infringes on our rights we have the right and duty to resist even if that means killing them....they have no right to tell us what firearms we can and cant have, and if and when they do...they are gonna get killed...i dont care how many cops come to infringe on my rights. Historically only the slave class was not allowed to own weapons of any kind....this is what they are trying to do with the american people...the sad thing is americans are so stupid that they dont even see it coming.
Easy there, there's more rules and regulations to this here country than the few printed on the bill of rights. As others said, the weapons could of contained too much of a hazardous material form their manufacturing process, could of been manufactured without the permission and consent of the patent holders of the product in this country, or could of been shipped into this country intentionally or unintentionally mislabeled to try and skirt around customs and import regulations. All of which are just causes (either by the rights of some or the will "of the people" as a whole) to get the firearms immediately confiscated by customs. Just like we have the rights to own and bear arms in this country, we've also made it a right for local manufacturers and inventors to not be put out of business by cheap and/or unsafe ripoff imports.
Speaking of historicaly, I might be mistaken, but I believe there have been stern regulations in place to curb foreign firearm imports ever since large manufacturers (ie: Winchester, Smith and Weston, etc.) lobbyed for it back in their glory days of the late 1800s.
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My currently trashed gun. I had a full metal M14, unpolished BBs jammed the gearbox. :cry
(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii316/hewhokillz/IMG_0240-1.jpg)
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Ive played airsoft before and i still prefer Paintball. Not the crap you see on TV that they call paintball, I mean playing on a large natural field. Some people call it "woodsball".
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Ive played airsoft before and i still prefer Paintball. Not the crap you see on TV that they call paintball, I mean playing on a large natural field. Some people call it "woodsball".
Do you use the oil based "munitions"?
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I use pretty much whatever they have at academy.