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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: FGBullet on October 24, 2010, 09:02:55 PM
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Every hour or two my MS FFB2 stick loses all resistance in the "Y" axis. It does not matter if I'm manuevering, shooting etc. I've lost it in many different situations. Just now, I was flying along level, enjoying the scenery and flop; all resistance lost on the Y, yet the "X" axis still has it.
Anyone know how to fix this? I've reloaded the software, but that didn't fix it.
Appreciate any input.
Bullet
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It might be overheating... try putting a fan on it (for testing purposes) and see if it still happens.
Regardless, I think you'll find to be an issue with the stick itself, not with windows or the software...
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some people have just been checking and un-checking the force feedback option in game.
Doesn't really explain why only one axis will lose it though :rolleyes:
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I occasionally lose both axes. I usually get it back if I end the fight and re-up. How do you get it back?
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The only way I can get it working again is to exit the game and go into properties of the joystick. After messing with the force feedback settings and overwriting the files it will work correctly in AH.
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Do you have the orginal software installed ie the disc that came with the joystick?
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Yes, original software installed.
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Uninstall it and let windows detect it. Don't install it on anything later than xp. I had issues with the stick unplugging in vista when i moved from win2k. Happened in il2 and aces high. Btw the software on the disc is 8 years old and there are no updates. For a game like ah were u can configure everthing in game its pointless installing it.
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I did uninstall the software for the stick. Unfortunately, under map controllers - select controller; the joystick was no longer shown and I did not see an option to install it???
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What operating system are you running?
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XP Professional
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I'm running windows 7 here, I plugged the stick in and looked for the driver and it says none are required, although it lists the stick as what it is.
Just says its a HID compliant games controller in details? :headscratch:
I used XP briefly but can't remember if I had to install the disc or not? :headscratch: definately used it with win2k. It should work ok as thats the OS it was designed for?
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More than likely.... the pot is shot.
if you have tried to recalibrate the stick, and it drifts off that is an indicator that a potentiometer may have gone south on you.
Had a cyborg stick with the same issue, electro contact cleaner may help but i doubt it.
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More than likely.... the pot is shot.
if you have tried to recalibrate the stick, and it drifts off that is an indicator that a potentiometer may have gone south on you.
Had a cyborg stick with the same issue, electro contact cleaner may help but i doubt it.
No ground I don't think it's a POT issue. He's losing FF, not the axis itself.
A lot of these FF sticks will shut down a motor if it gets too hot, and it's possible for one motor to get shut down but not the other. Once you quit using it and go play with settings it has had time to cool off and start working again.
I can't really find a correlation between a system issue and losing FF on just one axis, so that leads me to think that something is wrong with the stick itself... either a loose connection or a failing motor (either of which can cause it to get hot.. or even simple just stop working for a bit).
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I have a feeling it's a bug. Today I lost my Y axis FF again, instead of bailing and re-upping as I usually do I carried on fighting. The stall buffet function still worked and I'm pretty sure it was working on the Y axis motor too. That would rule out overheating or faulty pots. Can anyone else reproduce this? The next time it happens try to see if the buffet function is still working.
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Man this is unreal. I forgot I had a spare MSFFB2 stick from way back. Found and plugged it in, feeling good that it would not give me problems. 2 flights later and the "Y" lost its resistance. I'm at a loss for what's causing this. The other night I also lost resistance in the "X" axis, yet the "Y" axis was fine. :mad:
I may purchase a X52 pro, since it does not have FFB, maybe it will not give me problems. I just don't care to spend more money. Purchased a new VC and TrackIR 5 and theres a conflict between them.
Between the stick losing axis resistance and TrackIR 5 conflict; I'm concerned greater powers do not want me in the AH world. :headscratch:
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That confirms it is not a hardware fault then, since we have the same problem with at least three separate sticks. I believe it's a bug in AH. Will try to consistently reproduce it, perhaps there is a common circumstance.
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No ground I don't think it's a POT issue. He's losing FF, not the axis itself.
A lot of these FF sticks will shut down a motor if it gets too hot, and it's possible for one motor to get shut down but not the other. Once you quit using it and go play with settings it has had time to cool off and start working again.
I can't really find a correlation between a system issue and losing FF on just one axis, so that leads me to think that something is wrong with the stick itself... either a loose connection or a failing motor (either of which can cause it to get hot.. or even simple just stop working for a bit).
Simply doesn't happen with a sidewinder regards the pots or the motors, the only bit that breaks through wear and tear are the hats or buttons. They are solid as a rock.
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That confirms it is not a hardware fault then, since we have the same problem with at least three separate sticks. I believe it's a bug in AH. Will try to consistently reproduce it, perhaps there is a common circumstance.
Have you installed the software that came with the stick? I just plug mine in without installing the software and it works. Also what OS are you guys using? I've had no problems on vista and windows 7.
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I've tried with and without the software installed.
I've found something thats vastly improved the problem of losing resistance on an axis. I set the deadband and damping back to the default settings. I've only lost resistance once, in approx. 2+ hours of flight. Before going to default settings, I was losing an axis within 10 minutes of flight.
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I've tried with and without the software installed.
I've found something thats vastly improved the problem of losing resistance on an axis. I set the deadband and damping back to the default settings. I've only lost resistance once, in approx. 2+ hours of flight. Before going to default settings, I was losing an axis within 10 minutes of flight.
Do you have scaling enabled by any chance? The reason I ask is after the 'fix' my sidewinder was acting a little fruity with uneven pull no matter how I tried scaling it. Disabling the scaling returned my stick to its old feel with only minor readjustments needed in the trim on FF.
Imo you don't need the scaling its smooth and progressive without it, the only thing I needed to adjust was the trim force. Give it a try.
Nrshida give it a go as well mate.
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Thanks Perv....scaling was enabled and I'll try flying with it off later.
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Thanks Perv....scaling was enabled and I'll try flying with it off later.
No probs let us know how it works out for ya mate. :salute
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i own 3 Microsoft FF2, hands down, i cant fly with another stick, so i got 2 other spare sticks for the next 20 years
ok, got the same Problem, but i got also a workaround!
Sometimes you start ah, all fine, sometimes you loose just X of Y Force!??! what now?
My Workaround-> open pref -> open forcefeedback -> DISABLE the overall FF checkmark and click Apply!
close this subwindow, open it again and checkmark Forcefeedback and click ok!!
Voila, all forces back up, stick works fine! :salute
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i own 3 Microsoft FF2, hands down, i cant fly with another stick, so i got 2 other spare sticks for the next 20 years
ok, got the same Problem, but i got also a workaround!
Sometimes you start ah, all fine, sometimes you loose just X of Y Force!??! what now?
My Workaround-> open pref -> open forcefeedback -> DISABLE the overall FF checkmark and click Apply!
close this subwindow, open it again and checkmark Forcefeedback and click ok!!
Voila, all forces back up, stick works fine! :salute
That was the old way to fix the old bug, it was fixed there in an update should work just fine without doing it now. I lol'ed at the next 20 years :lol :aok