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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 321BAR on November 02, 2010, 11:43:59 AM
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As of now everyone knows about the whiny Spit14 questionable perk. I believe the spit14 should stay perked and for good reason and im going to try and prove my point this tour. as of now for this tour i am 5 and 0 in the spit14 so far and last tour with my limited 2 flights in it i am 5 and 1. im going to try and get the highest K/D i can in the 14 this tour with the most kills possible per flight and i will keep my fighter score as spit14 only as long as i possibly can. <S>
(basically we're about to find out if the perk is worth it or not compared to my flying capability)
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As of now everyone knows about the whiny Spit14 questionable perk. I believe the spit14 should stay perked and for good reason and im going to try and prove my point this tour. as of now for this tour i am 5 and 0 in the spit14 so far and last tour with my limited 2 flights in it i am 5 and 1. im going to try and get the highest K/D i can in the 14 this tour with the most kills possible per flight and i will keep my fighter score as spit14 only as long as i possibly can. <S>
Which will prove nothing on that very question.
If someone goes out in the 190A-5 and ends up with a k/D of 10... does that mean it should be perked? ;)
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HT should conclude this upon your ability or lack therof in this plane? :headscratch:
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So if I were to fly a Hurri-Mk1 the whole tour and come up with a great K/d ratio, will they perk it?
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So if I were to fly a Hurri-Mk1 the whole tour and come up with a great K/d ratio, will they perk it?
I did fly the Hurri I as my main ride in the LW arena in tour 91. Ended up with a k/D of 4.41 and 300 kills. I think we should give it ENY 5 at least :D
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If you are going to do it correctly and perform an analysis or case study, you need many pilots with various skill levels and they should be unaware of what the results are being looked at.
Time for a graph or pie chart :bolt: :salute
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Snailman has the best pie...............
Charts :D
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So if I were to fly a Hurri-Mk1 the whole tour and come up with a great K/d ratio, will they perk it?
ive never flown the spit14 before last tour and i upped it twice. and if you get a high K/D in a 190 then youre just darn good :lolHT should conclude this upon your ability or lack therof in this plane? :headscratch:
never said this. im trying to prove my point to the argument. i fly 51s mostly and the spit14 feels like a 51 in some senses...a very powerful and tighter turning 51... but in the 51 i actually try my best to get a high K/D while being able to help my fellow squaddies and countrymen still. look at my K/D there. not the best. im doing the same in the 14. if its alot better than my 51B and 51D K/Ds then in my opinion its worth the perk.If you are going to do it correctly and perform an analysis or case study, you need many pilots with various skill levels and they should be unaware of what the results are being looked at.
Time for a graph or pie chart :bolt: :salute
im actually looking into this
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Rather than trying to get a bunch of volunteers, just do some data mining from last month or two in the stats. Recommend doing a random sample rather than the top 10 or something. Doing it based off of your own results would be biased as you are trying to get a good score and you know what you do will affect the results.
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Rather than trying to get a bunch of volunteers, just do some data mining from last month or two in the stats. Recommend doing a random sample rather than the top 10 or something. Doing it based off of your own results would be biased as you are trying to get a good score and you know what you do will affect the results.
yes but at the same time im trying to show that its worth the perk. the tempest is worth the 50 perk cost yet some people dont know how to fly it. you must know that the spit14 isnt like other spits and that most pilots would believe that a perked spit should ACT like a spit correct? i remember trying to use the spit14 when i was more of a noob... i used it like the other spitfires and i failed... epicly. everytime i see a spit14 in this game, its being used at low alts like a spit16 these days and out of its element entirely...
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Its not exactly what you fly, IMO. It is how and who is flying it.
Anybody can go to 20k for a 5k fight and pick...
But not anyone could run into a furball in a Spit14, and come out alive...
Not to mention Spit14 better at higher altitudes. So what exactly is your plan on using this plane?
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Its not exactly what you fly, IMO. It is how and who is flying it.
Anybody can go to 20k for a 5k fight and pick...
But not anyone could run into a furball in a Spit14, and come out alive...
Not to mention Spit14 better at higher altitudes. So what exactly is your plan on using this plane?
my one flight last night consisted of me flying in at 17k, picking one enemy, then defending a Vbase at around 5k and killed 4 more at approx that alt. it flies like a p51 and 51s can do well at these alts also. the spit14 also keeps up with 51s at this alt like a spit16 would and is more stable as a firing platform than the spit16. im not just going to pick with the 14.
(also... yes, not anyone could run into a furball in a spit14 and come out alive but its the exact same with tempests, f4u4s and f4u1cs). you cant go into a furball in a tempest and expect to actually stay there long without dieing. a spit14 has more of a chance than the tempest.
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Depends who fly the Tempest...
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the spit14 ... is more stable as a firing platform than the spit16.
I'll be surprised if you can find another XIV pilot that agrees with this :)
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I'll be surprised if you can find another XIV pilot that agrees with this :)
Which begs the question..... are there spit 16 pilots or just folks who ride in them?
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But ENY values are based on the plane, not the pilot. Regardless of how many 14 drivers you could get together and track it would still be such a small portion of the overall K/D for the plane.
The 14's perk value is based on how it outperforms the 16 above 20k more than anything else I feel............ Now an cool stat to look at (which I don't think we can) is altitude of kills and compare that to the 16.
:salute
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All this time I thought the perk value was based on how much coffee it could carry over a set distance at a set altitude.
PS I still think of the movie "Logan's Run" when I see you post.
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my one flight last night consisted of me flying in at 17k, picking one enemy, then defending a Vbase at around 5k and killed 4 more at approx that alt. it flies like a p51 and 51s can do well at these alts also. the spit14 also keeps up with 51s at this alt like a spit16 would and is more stable as a firing platform than the spit16. im not just going to pick with the 14.
(also... yes, not anyone could run into a furball in a spit14 and come out alive but its the exact same with tempests, f4u4s and f4u1cs). you cant go into a furball in a tempest and expect to actually stay there long without dieing. a spit14 has more of a chance than the tempest.
i once dogfighted 6 spixteens n killed 3 before one got me, i was turn fighting w them i was ina 262, try that for making a point
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PS I still think of the movie "Logan's Run" when I see you post.
great movie. somewhere in the first draft of that script there must have been a note saying:
* Insert some random plot device which requires Jenny Agutter to get naked here.
:aok
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great movie. somewhere in the first draft of that script there must have been a note saying:
* Insert some random plot device which requires Jenny Agutter to get naked here.
:aok
:D
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heres my point!! >>>----->
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Which begs the question..... are there spit 16 pilots or just folks who ride in them?
Good point.
I always classify the brits as the true spit pilots of the game and all the american spit pilots as just easy mode newbs. :)
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Oh YES please!!!
great movie. somewhere in the first draft of that script there must have been a note saying:
* Insert some random plot device which requires Jenny Agutter to get naked here.
:aok
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2290/2479201539_f84b56ea66.jpg)
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ummm Logan... your palm is blinking. :D
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all the american spit pilots as just easy mode newbs
71 Sqn.
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Time for Llogann to be renewed on Carousel...
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ummm Logan... your palm is blinking. :D
Carousel begins !!!
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As of now everyone knows about the whiny Spit14 questionable perk. I believe the spit14 should stay perked and for good reason and im going to try and prove my point this tour. as of now for this tour i am 5 and 0 in the spit14 so far and last tour with my limited 2 flights in it i am 5 and 1. im going to try and get the highest K/D i can in the 14 this tour with the most kills possible per flight and i will keep my fighter score as spit14 only as long as i possibly can. <S>
(basically we're about to find out if the perk is worth it or not compared to my flying capability)
Pointless. It will depend on your style and not on the plane. Shawk used to have the best K/D in the D9 and Zazan in a Tyffi. Should those be perked too? It was their style, not the plane.
I probably have a less than 1 k/d in a lala. Useless plane ehh?
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I have less than a 1 K/D in ANY plane...therefore, I should pay NO perks....ever...for any plane.
Changeup the Invincible
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Changeup should be perked :D
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I did fly the Hurri I as my main ride in the LW arena in tour 91. Ended up with a k/D of 4.41 and 300 kills. I think we should give it ENY 5 at least :D
:rofl
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yeah i realized that you cant really make a point like that and with all the stuff that came up last night in game i dont think ill be able to get a good K/D in a spit14 for a while.
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I probably have a less than 1 k/d in a lala. Useless plane ehh?
If your flying it ... yeah ... pretty much
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Which begs the question..... are there spit 16 pilots or just folks who ride in them?
I rode jump seat in one once. Awful experience, let's just say Silat's version of Toys'R'Us was much different than mine.
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If your flying it ... yeah ... pretty much
Who me? I was just an example :bolt: yeah, thats what it was :uhoh