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Title: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 11:49:17 AM
Why don't we have cowling flaps on the American radial planes with r2800 engines?? They can help landing and forced overshoots and can add a bit of realism!!
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: Tupac on November 02, 2010, 11:52:26 AM
+100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: ImADot on November 02, 2010, 11:55:09 AM
Perhaps then they'd have to model engine management and you'd have to sit on the taxiway for something like 20 minutes while you go through the checklists and run-ups...
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 11:59:59 AM
Perhaps then they'd have to model engine management and you'd have to sit on the taxiway for something like 20 minutes while you go through the checklists and run-ups...
Lol the 109 crank start will take forever!!
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: ImADot on November 02, 2010, 12:05:19 PM
Especially if troops are down at the base.   :D
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 12:07:16 PM
Especially if troops are down at the base.   :D
:lol
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 02, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Cowling flaps force an overshoot?  LOL! 

JOACH1M, I know you're a kid and all but do you know what cowling flaps did and how they worked?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: ImADot on November 02, 2010, 12:53:16 PM
Wait, cowling flaps aren't airbrakes?   :huh
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: MachFly on November 02, 2010, 01:02:20 PM
Why don't we have cowling flaps on the American radial planes with r2800 engines?? They can help landing and forced overshoots and can add a bit of realism!!

Have you noticed that we don't have mixture control on any plane? You would have to change it every time you change your altitude.
If everything was that realistic you would sit on the ground for at least a half hour doing your pre-flight and then blow your engine just because your not familiar with all the aircraft's procedures. Imagine that every time you touch your flaps at high speed you lose them, and realistically they would come off one after the other (not at the same time) putting you in a snap roll and possibly braking your wing from stress.

I see where your coming from, it's a good idea just not for this game with so many aircraft, if your looking for something that realistic look at Falcon 04, it has a 4 inch manual that goes with it and only one airplane to fly.
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 01:28:45 PM
Have you noticed that we don't have mixture control on any plane? You would have to change it every time you change your altitude.
If everything was that realistic you would sit on the ground for at least a half hour doing your pre-flight and then blow your engine just because your not familiar with all the aircraft's procedures. Imagine that every time you touch your flaps at high speed you lose them, and realistically they would come off one after the other (not at the same time) putting you in a snap roll and possibly braking your wing from stress.

I see where your coming from, it's a good idea just not for this game with so many aircraft, if your looking for something that realistic look at Falcon 04, it has a 4 inch manual that goes with it and only one airplane to fly.
I'm just saying when your gear came out they deployed, sorry didn't mention that. And I know that isn't realistic either but in warbirds they came out when gear dropped.
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: LLogann on November 02, 2010, 01:29:18 PM
Nay, nay, nay please.
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: MachFly on November 02, 2010, 01:31:24 PM
I'm just saying when your gear came out they deployed, sorry didn't mention that. And I know that isn't realistic either but in warbirds they came out when gear dropped.

Oh so you mean just the automated visual effect, yeah I guess that would look nice. Maybe even when you speed drop bellow 150 (or what ever it is for the specific aircraft).
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 01:32:41 PM
Oh so you mean just the automated visual effect, yeah I guess that would look nice. Maybe even when you speed drop bellow 150 (or what ever it is for the specific aircraft).
Ya I didn't mean for them to be fully functional, I should have stated that earlier lol
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 02, 2010, 01:46:59 PM
But please as I am curious JOACH1M, how can the cowl flaps be used to create an over shoot? 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: LLogann on November 02, 2010, 01:49:21 PM
From a aerodynamics standpoint it does actually make sense..................  A minuscule amount of additional drag.  But I can't see how that would be more effective than a hard rudder move.  And I really can see how that additional drag would do anymore than say stick your head out the window. 

But please as I am curious JOACH1M, how can the cowl flaps be used to create an over shoot? 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 02, 2010, 01:57:06 PM
From a aerodynamics standpoint it does actually make sense..................  A minuscule amount of additional drag.  But I can't see how that would be more effective than a hard rudder move.  And I really can see how that additional drag would do anymore than say stick your head out the window. 


The cowling flaps are not going to force an overshoot when deployed.  You'd also be hard pressed to find any pilot that would try and use the cowling flaps that way and risk damaging or destroying the engine.  Closing the cowling flaps to clean up the airframe when deadstick and gliding I can understand as the reduction in drag can help with the gliding but the cowling flaps will not create enough drag when opened to act as an air brake and force an overshoot.  The cowling flaps were used to maintain engine temperatures but I guess when people see "flaps" they think of normal flaps.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 02, 2010, 01:57:30 PM
From a aerodynamics standpoint it does actually make sense..................  A minuscule amount of additional drag.  But I can't see how that would be more effective than a hard rudder move.  And I really can see how that additional drag would do anymore than say stick your head out the window. 

Thanks :aok
Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: JOACH1M on November 03, 2010, 11:55:30 AM
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Title: Re: Cowling flaps
Post by: 321BAR on November 03, 2010, 12:34:08 PM
Imagine that every time you touch your flaps at high speed you lose them, and realistically they would come off one after the other (not at the same time) putting you in a snap roll and possibly braking your wing from stress.
wouldnt mind this :aok