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Title: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 08, 2010, 07:20:26 PM
What's your favorite model and why?
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Imowface on November 08, 2010, 07:22:14 PM
I like G-6's, they are the easiest to kill in my La-5  :devil
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Threeup on November 08, 2010, 07:25:49 PM
The one without a wing spiralling into the land and/or ocean, because I don't fly them.

My most non-favourite one is the one on my 6 trying to give me a 30mm enema for the same reason.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Lusche on November 08, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4673/note4j.jpg)

Obviously not the E-4  :uhoh :bolt:
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: JOACH1M on November 08, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
109f4 by far
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Mar on November 08, 2010, 07:35:08 PM
G14. While it's not quite as powerful as the K4, it is a bit more maneuverable.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Rhah on November 08, 2010, 07:36:18 PM
109f4 and k4
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: redman555 on November 08, 2010, 07:37:23 PM
If you want to talk with a MASTER 109 pilot talk to Grizz.....I have literally seen him go 1v4 and win.....no exaggeration...I was one of the 4.


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Tupac on November 08, 2010, 07:40:40 PM
G2
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: caldera on November 08, 2010, 07:49:28 PM
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4673/note4j.jpg)

Obviously not the E-4  :uhoh :bolt:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH2%20screenshots/vader.jpg)

E-4 is my favorite.  Not easy to hit stuff with those crappy guns. G-6 is fun too.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: JOACH1M on November 08, 2010, 07:49:59 PM
G2
NO THAT STUPID MODEL KILLED THE BEST 109 pilot in HISTORY!!! (Hans Joachim Marsielle)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Reaper90 on November 08, 2010, 07:50:19 PM
109's are the DEBIL!!!

(http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/28917d1168070940-timbales-antichrist-waterboy3.jpg)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: MachFly on November 08, 2010, 07:53:29 PM
I like G-6's, they are the easiest to kill in my La-5  :devil

I have to agree  :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Krupinski on November 08, 2010, 07:58:27 PM
K4!

It's just that über.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: JOACH1M on November 08, 2010, 08:01:37 PM
K4!

It's just that über.
Lol yes and kicked my arse in that thing :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 08, 2010, 08:12:57 PM
So, what exactly are the differences between the G-14 and K-4? Would like to see if G-14 actually would work more to my advantage.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Perrine on November 08, 2010, 08:20:53 PM
i like this 109 model
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w360/ (http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w360/tom_moreau/desktop.jpg)

and this :D
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x122/ (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x122/m31087/switch/moe-30881-eila_ilmatar_juutilainen-strike_witches.jpg?t=1289269110)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 08, 2010, 08:22:25 PM
i like this 109 model
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w360/tom_moreau/desktop.jpg

and this :D
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x122/m31087/switch/moe-30881-eila_ilmatar_juutilainen-strike_witches.jpg?t=1289269110

(http://ui18.gamespot.com/2897/whywouldyoudothat_2.jpg)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: stealth on November 08, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
#1 109F-4 Good maneuverability and speed.
#2 109G-2 Good turn ability and good for reversals, good gun and ammo package.
#3 109E-4 Maneuverable (perk tard = ME) :joystick:
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Motherland on November 08, 2010, 08:45:31 PM
NO THAT STUPID MODEL KILLED THE BEST 109 pilot in HISTORY!!! (Hans Joachim Marsielle)
It was a malfunctioning Bf 109G-1 that killed Marseille.

i like this 109 model
http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w360/ (http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w360/tom_moreau/desktop.jpg)

and this :D
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x122/ (http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x122/m31087/switch/moe-30881-eila_ilmatar_juutilainen-strike_witches.jpg?t=1289269110)
Every time I see something from Strike Witches, I'm reminded that two nukes were, unfortunately, not nearly enough. No where close.

Also, Bf 109G-6. Mainstay of the series (12,000+ out of 33,000), quite nice flight characteristics. I like all of the earlier ones, though.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: SunBat on November 08, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
K4!

It's just that über.

If it had been anyone else my "loser" plane in the bracket would have been a K4. But nooooo it had to be the polish guy.  :D
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: JOACH1M on November 08, 2010, 08:51:19 PM
It was a malfunctioning Bf 109G-1 that killed Marseille.
Every time I see something from Strike Witches, I'm reminded that two nukes were, unfortunately, not nearly enough. No where close.

Also, Bf 109G-6. Mainstay of the series (12,000+ out of 33,000), quite nice flight characteristics. I like all of the earlier ones, though.
Production model of the g1 is g2
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Perrine on November 08, 2010, 08:56:06 PM
It was a malfunctioning Bf 109G-1 that killed Marseille.
Every time I see something from Strike Witches, I'm reminded that two nukes were, unfortunately, not nearly enough. No where close.

That's more like a drop in the bucket...
That franchise btw is strong.  2 TV seasons and a movie coming up in 2011. It's even credited for saving a studio company from going bankrupt.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Perrine on November 08, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
NO THAT STUPID MODEL KILLED THE BEST 109 pilot in HISTORY!!! (Hans Joachim Marsielle)

and that stupid model shouldn't come with WEP!

Mercedes Benz only allowed 1.42 ATA wep when bf 109G-6s appeared.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Motherland on November 08, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
Production model of the g1 is g2
Ermmm no.
G-1 was the initial production model of the G series. 167 Bf 109G-1s were built (WNr. 10299 - 10318 at Erla and WNr 14004-14150 at Messerschmitt Regensburg) and delivered to units beginning in June 1942.
The G-2 differed from the G-1 primarily in the lack of high altitude equipment (this pattern would continue through the G-6).
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Motherland on November 08, 2010, 09:13:01 PM
That's more like a drop in the bucket...
That franchise btw is strong.  2 TV seasons and a movie coming up in 2011. It's even credited for saving a studio company from going bankrupt.
*shudders*
William Halsey had the right idea.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: SPKmes on November 08, 2010, 09:23:08 PM
So, what exactly are the differences between the G-14 and K-4? Would like to see if G-14 actually would work more to my advantage.

For me...as a person on the other side of the 109 ..... I find the K4 goes up more..doesn't turn as much although it does try but then goes up and when nose up can flip it's big nose down...or in pretty much any direction it wants and go that way..offering many nasty snap shop opportunities ....The G14...I find doesn't go vertical as well so makes this plane need to fight more of an angles turn fight (it does still have great up potential)...It has many of the characteristics of the K4 but less stunning...it does however have a good ability to turn more than the K4 and if it gets on you tail can stay there


Both have taters...both are horrible...

These are my unprofessional..uneducated observations
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Motherland on November 08, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
So, what exactly are the differences between the G-14 and K-4? Would like to see if G-14 actually would work more to my advantage.
K-4 is faster and has better zoom climb.
G-14 has a slightly tighter turn radius.
Sustained climb is about the same between the two, some alts G-14 is better, some K-4 is better.
K-4 has more torque for whipping the plane around (one of the K-4's main advantages, very advanced technique though)
G-14 has more weapons options
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 08, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
K-4 is faster and has better zoom climb.
G-14 has a slightly tighter turn radius.
Sustained climb is about the same between the two, some alts G-14 is better, some K-4 is better.
K-4 has more torque for whipping the plane around (one of the K-4's main advantages, very advanced technique though)
G-14 has more weapons options


I honestly love snaprolling the K-4 but I would like the turn advantage... Gonna try out the G-14 soon just to see if I like it.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Scotch on November 08, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
The g14 used to be less stable than the k4. I haven't flown the g14 yet again to see if that's still the case.
The g14 has a more obstructed front view with the cowlings.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Ardy123 on November 08, 2010, 10:15:54 PM
My Fav 109 rides...

its a toss up between the G14 and K4, the G2 is hot little ride as well.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Larry on November 08, 2010, 11:49:23 PM
Me109F-2
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Muzzy on November 08, 2010, 11:57:17 PM
I flew the G6 for a bit early on and had some decent success with it. Love flying the G14 but for some reason I keep missing easy shots with it.  As for the K4 I don't think my gunnery skill is quite up to the challenge.  I prefer to fly FW's to be honest.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: LLogann on November 09, 2010, 12:00:37 AM
I'm an E fan......................  Few 40 eny planes out there.   :salute  And none with the finishing power of the E4.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Bored123 on November 09, 2010, 01:21:48 AM
As i only fly german planes, and the 109 is my go to ride, i have spent quite a bit of time in all of them. Out of all the 109s i prefer the G6 or G14. The G14 is awesome with that 30 in the nose. But in the right hands any of them can be deadly, its more about knowing what your flying and using its advantages and trying to take advantage of the enemy fighters weaknesses.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: bagrat on November 09, 2010, 01:41:34 AM
K4 and G14

because they can turn with the spitfires and run down the runners! there is no escape :devil
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: skribetm on November 09, 2010, 02:10:56 AM
G14. (http://bit.ly/d5Xsj8)(http://bit.ly/d5Xsj8)(http://bit.ly/d5Xsj8)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: sunfan1121 on November 09, 2010, 04:03:28 AM
K4 because it gives you more options in a tough spot. If your fighting multiple cons you can use that climb rate to get on top and work from there. Its not as agile as other 109's, but it makes up for it in muscle.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: kilo2 on November 09, 2010, 04:24:34 AM
I don't always fly a 109 but when I do I fly a 109-G6.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: VonMessa on November 09, 2010, 04:56:02 AM
I don't always fly a 109 but when I do I fly a 109-G6.

Stay thirsty my friend.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Latrobe on November 09, 2010, 05:09:00 AM
All the G models and latley I'm getting used to the K4  :) .

LOVE the yellow wingtip skin for the G-14, and the dark skin for the K-4 (both by DutchGuy), WTG DutchGuy!!  :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 09, 2010, 05:29:12 AM
F4

Because I can often make a 4 V 1 closely resemble a Benny Hill skit
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: SunBat on November 09, 2010, 06:07:38 AM
 :rofl Sukov and Von
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: TEXICAN on November 09, 2010, 08:39:27 AM
K4
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: VonMessa on November 09, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Oh yeah,

KURFURST !
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: gdzila on November 09, 2010, 09:03:51 AM
Always have loved the g2 shes a sweet ride, but been spending a lot of time in the k because she can just knock the snot out of you.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: ACE on November 09, 2010, 09:20:21 AM
109s are the funnest planes to fly imo and I absolutley love the k4
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Ruah on November 09, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
G14 because of the 20mm option.  i am not a tater fan.  For pure flight characteristics, the K4 is hard to top especially with the magic you can do with the torque.  Alsas, its 30 mm kills the fun for me.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 09, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
F4

Because I can often make a 4 V 1 closely resemble a Benny Hill skit
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: L0nGb0w on November 09, 2010, 11:04:32 AM
I take the G14 over the K4, I like it better at stall speeds, at relatively low altitude it is very close to the k4 in climb rate.  And the skins are cooler  :D
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: MjTalon on November 09, 2010, 11:19:25 AM
G6, the best 109 variant IMHO.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: JB11 on November 09, 2010, 11:41:48 AM
They're all good.

 :salute 11
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: R 105 on November 09, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
G-2
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Bosco123 on November 09, 2010, 01:59:47 PM
Basically, its all about the big guns for me so thats why with a 30mm package and 20mm gondies there is no question that the 109G-14 is my favorite. After that I go with the G6, K4 and so on
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: grizz441 on November 09, 2010, 02:04:24 PM
Stay thirsty my friend.

 :rofl :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: greens on November 09, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
the spixteen is by far the best. PERIOD! OOOOOOOOOPS wrong thread. the 109K4 by far the best. BUTTTTT the TA152 eats em all for snacks  :banana:
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Perrine on November 09, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
who here thinks the 109K is an even match up to spit 14?
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Ardy123 on November 09, 2010, 03:01:35 PM
who here thinks the 109K is an even match up to spit 14?
Ok I'll take the bait,I know this conversation has occurred before.

Given co-e and equal pilots, no way, the spit 14 will dominate. Even though the k4 is faster, the hispanos can be shot from long range hit the intended target with ease, this can't be said for the 30mm cannon.

Now in a knife/turn fight, spit 8, 9 & 16 will dominate a K4 given equal pilots, the spit can just turn inside the k4 with so much ease, your only hope is forcing overshoots with quick reversals.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Mus51 on November 09, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
K4 all the way!
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: ACE on November 09, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
who here thinks the 109K is an even match up to spit 14?
ill take a k4 over that spit anyday you get a 14 slow imo it sucks
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Volron on November 09, 2010, 04:42:00 PM
Every time I see something from Strike Witches, I'm reminded that two nukes were, unfortunately, not nearly enough. No where close.
Are you sure?  Maybe it was the 2 nukes that affected them in this manner...  Before, Fine, after....oh boy. :lol  Could be one way of getting back at us. :rofl



Of the 109's I take up, it's the G-14 I prefer the most.  I just like the way it moves and it's weapons are quite nice.  Can be fitted for dogfighting or bomber intercept.  The 2nd would be the E-4 simply because it's fun to fly. :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Wildcat1 on November 09, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
F4

very manuverable for a 109, still has decent climb, single 20mm is PLENTY of firepower with a generous stock of rounds to that
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Madkow on November 09, 2010, 05:12:46 PM
K4
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Mus51 on November 09, 2010, 05:45:38 PM
who here thinks the 109K is an even match up to spit 14?

109K > Spit 14

20-25k Spit 14 > 109K
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Big Rat on November 09, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
My favorite to fly and what I'm most comfortable in is a G2, well balanced as far as speed and manueverability.  But I have to give the K4 its dues, brutally powerfull machine, easy to get above your opponent in a fight and force them to fight uphill while you fight downhill.  If I could only get proficient with the taters, I'm good at getting the shot just not good at making it :cry

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Void on November 09, 2010, 07:17:10 PM
109F-4
Good dive.
Good turning.
Good roll.
Good Speed.
mmmmmm :cool: Juicy ride
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: MK-84 on November 09, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
My favorite is the G2 with the 150 cannon and gondolas. The MGs are not needed so no G6 for me. for me its the most balanced and therefore I can resort to other options (like turning) other than sheer horsepower or the G14 and K4.
Best run was 14 kills (had to rearm twice)
And it has that cool black and white skin for it, which looks like a drunk painted it...and since i frequently fly drunk...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 09, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
Don't know why the MG's get so much hate, about 1/5 of my kills in 109's are after I run out of taters.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Larry on November 09, 2010, 10:43:14 PM

And it has that cool black and white skin for it, which looks like a drunk painted it...and since i frequently fly drunk...  :rolleyes:

If you're talking about the cow skin I wasn't drunk when I skinned it just a very skill-less skinner. IMO that skin should have been removed from the game years ago anyways.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: MK-84 on November 10, 2010, 05:59:36 PM
Well I happen to like it :aok
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: DrBone1 on November 10, 2010, 06:07:20 PM
G6  :D  www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaygLi1Qd0&feature=fvst
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: BillyD on November 10, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
Kurfurst
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Plazus on November 10, 2010, 10:35:44 PM
I like the 109K4s. They break apart quite nicely in front of my P38 and Mosquito. :devil
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Guppy35 on November 11, 2010, 12:55:46 AM
Emil is the only one I like to fly.  It looks right to me.  Only Axis bird I've made profiles of.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/109E7TropSicilyJG27.jpg)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 11, 2010, 04:03:42 AM
NO THAT STUPID MODEL KILLED THE BEST 109 pilot in HISTORY!!! (Hans Joachim Marsielle)

The G2 had no concious so it was merely commanded by its pilot. Who killed who?
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Ardy123 on November 11, 2010, 05:18:25 AM
The G2 had no concious so it was merely commanded by its pilot. Who killed who?

Don't blame the model, blame the engine, it was an engine failure that did him in and filled his cocpit with smoke. Blame Daimler Benz (even today their cars don't get the best reliability ratings).
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: DEECONX on November 11, 2010, 03:50:13 PM
Can I choose all of them?  :banana:

No really, I like them all. But, I guess I find myself in the G models more often. But K4 and E-4 are fun too!  :devil
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: crazyivan on November 11, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
G-14 is nice just can't see over the cowling. Maybe I just need to put a pillow on my seat. :D
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: DEECONX on November 11, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
Can I choose all of them?  :banana:

No really, I like them all. But, I guess I find myself in the G models more often. But E, F, and K are fun too!  :devil
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Viperius on November 12, 2010, 08:24:26 AM
G2 and G6 cause my country had them during WW2.

In the MA the G14 to hang with the other LW Planes, more gun choice then the K4 and a bit more agile. The K4 is nice versus multiple enemys when you just can engage the "I win, so long suckers" WEP Button and climb away  :D

(http://www.100thbg.com/mainpages/history/history5/swiss/SwissMe-109G.jpg)

Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: zack1234 on November 12, 2010, 11:02:35 AM
what did they use them for Viper crop spraying or hiding Naarzy gold in :banana:
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Wiley on November 12, 2010, 11:58:51 AM
When I am in the mood for a 109, I usually go to the K model, but based on this thread, I gave the G-14 another chance, and do I ever like it better.  Similar ish performance to the K, but a lot more stable at low speeds.  I'll probably change my tune if I ever learn to manage the torque snaproll indie kick flip type moves, but for general flight, the G-14 is my new favorite.

Wiley.
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: ScottyK on November 12, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
 F4, G6, G14 (buff hunting with 30mm and gondolas) G2 then K4
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: skribetm on November 12, 2010, 02:40:17 PM
 :O :O :O

please stop posting pics of the sweetest ride in AH2.
AH2 Anonymous has worked really well for me the past ~3 months.

Don't make me log in! AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: Ardy123 on November 12, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
look at that sexy G10!
(http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/stranieri/me_bf109g10as.jpg)

listen to that awesome engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXi9_o49rsQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXi9_o49rsQ&feature=related)
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: skribetm on November 12, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
look at that sexy G10!
listen to that awesome engine

ohhhhhhh fapoewijfkajfk*! sounds like a lion's low growl.
thats the sound of a real engine.

not some purry meow cat merlin.

 :O :O :rock
Title: Re: 109 Pilots, report!
Post by: DEECONX on November 25, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
G14 has become my 109 ride of choice. Mostly because it is so versatile! I can dog with the 30 or 20 mm, go buff hunting with the gondies and rockets and knock out gv's with the 500kg! That and This has to be one of the best skins ingame...

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Kassill1/G14vsSpit16.jpg)

shameless plug for JG11  :noid