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Title: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: FiLtH on November 11, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
   Missed the fight, wondered who won.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 11, 2010, 12:45:07 PM
His fight starts on saturday
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 11, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
also here's an interesting read about this guy

http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2010/11/manny-pacquiao-a-world-class-boxer-tries-to-be-an-american-star/66282/
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 11, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
His fight starts on saturday

 :rofl
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: crazyivan on November 11, 2010, 06:49:41 PM
Pacquioa vs Margorito   Saturday Nov. 13th  Cowgirl stadium.  Well I'm not paying for it  but go PAC. :rock  Free UFC is on the same night I think so.

Free vs 40 bucks for so so fight.  :rolleyes: 
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 11, 2010, 07:16:25 PM
I was wondering if this fight would turn out kind of lame. Until Margarito and his sparring partner started making fun of Manny's trainer. (He has Parkinson's) Those idiots were making total fools of themselves as they mimicked him in front of a camera.

Manny is going to DESTROY that dumb jerk. It's gonna be sweet.

<S> Melvin

Edited for bad choice of words.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 11, 2010, 07:58:03 PM
so when is Money May gonna come out and fight?  This saturday was originally meant between them.

Manny only agreed on this saturday's fight to salvage Margarito's career.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 11, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
Mayweather will never fight Manny. He's too scared he'll get smashed.

The only thing that surpasses Mayweather's skill is his arrogance. I don't care if he never fights again. In my opinion he is a d-bag.

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: FiLtH on November 11, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
  Good, guess I had my dates wrong.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Slash27 on November 12, 2010, 11:31:32 AM
Pacquioa vs Margorito   Saturday Nov. 13th  Cowgirl stadium.  Well I'm not paying for it  but go PAC. :rock  Free UFC is on the same night I think so.

Free vs 40 bucks for so so fight.  :rolleyes: 
I think the free UFC was a fee weeks ago in the UK. Unless there's another one if course. I'd rather watch reruns of UFC than boxing anyway.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 13, 2010, 03:43:54 AM
Pacquioa is 5 lbs lighter then Margarito.

Manny will be fighting uphill due to a hieght problem.

PacMan is gonna smoke that guy w/in 6 rnds.

Most likely w/in 3.

<S> Melvin

Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2010, 04:15:57 AM
Im not in to boxing anymore. And havent been since a teen when UFC started making a rise. I could care less about boxing.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 13, 2010, 05:12:18 AM
Im not in to boxing anymore. And havent been since a teen when UFC started making a rise. I could care less about boxing.

The thing about UFC is this: As an ex-bartender, I've seen (partook in) enough of those type of fights that I really don't get excited anymore.

I enjoy watching the sweet science because the fighters are handicapped to using their fists. ( Sometimes elbows, sometimes heads.)

Every punk, juvenile delinquent that I run into is "Training" for UFC....... :rofl

This is a boxing thread, so piss off. Dumb bellybutton midget. :lol :banana:

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 05:34:03 AM
previous fight with clottey was ho-hum.
clottey just decided to clam up and not risk getting KO'd.

so lets see how this one turns out tonight!

episode 4 of 4, HBO Boxing 24/7: LINK (http://www.philboxing.tv/pacquiao-vs-margarito/hbo-247-pacquiao-margarito-episode-4-complete-video/)

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/pacquiao-margarito-poster.jpg)

5'11" vs. 5'7"(barely)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

(http://idata.over-blog.com/0/40/34/96/--09-09-2010/pacquiao-vs-margarito-tale-of-the-tape.jpg)
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 05:44:58 AM
diaz getting bloodied.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/29/article-0-01C8672100000578-461_468x319.jpg)

delahoya quit on the chair.
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID10947/images/de_la_hoya_pacquiao_boxing_300.jpg)

hatton went to sleep.
(http://www.migsmobile.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pacman012.jpg)

cotto, tko'd.
(http://thenewschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/pacquiao-vs-cotto-02.jpg)

only way to stay standing is to do what clottey did, turtle up!
(http://chuvachienes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/resized_clottey_pacquiao.jpg)

or do a floyd maynever and not fight at all!
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 13, 2010, 05:51:02 AM
skribetm!

 PacMan in 6  :aok (Or 3) :rock
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 05:57:45 AM
melvin, i dunno, hes pretty distracted with his other job. (previously it was the other woman.)
but margarito punches wide most times so he's going to be eating a lot of leather from pacs straight lefts!

 :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Masherbrum on November 13, 2010, 07:42:29 AM
I gave up on boxing when the first Lennox Lewis/Holyfield was rigged and Holyfield held the belt after losing 8 rounds.    Boxing is still rigged for money and I refuse to give a penny to it.   

UFC has long been a favorite and a hell of a lot more involved.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: sunfan1121 on November 13, 2010, 09:02:57 AM
The thing about UFC is this: As an ex-bartender, I've seen (partook in) enough of those type of fights that I really don't get excited anymore.

I enjoy watching the sweet science because the fighters are handicapped to using their fists. ( Sometimes elbows, sometimes heads.)

Every punk, juvenile delinquent that I run into is "Training" for UFC....... :rofl

This is a boxing thread, so piss off. Dumb bellybutton midget. :lol :banana:

<S> Melvin
You've seen a triangle choke or a gogoplata in a bar fight? I highly doubt it. MMA is more then a glorified street fight, you have to know many different martial arts to even stand a chance. Thats why you highly decorated boxers like James Tony get dominated in the first round. Boxing is dead. Can you even name a current heavyweight champion? I sure as hell cant.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 13, 2010, 10:29:31 AM
Boxing is dead.

it's alive and well, at least in Manny's weight class :aok
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Masherbrum on November 13, 2010, 10:38:23 AM


it's alive and well, at least in Manny's weight class :aok

Only for suckers.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 10:41:43 AM
now if they did away with groping in UFC i might watch.  :lol :lol :frown:
but seriously, who would want to see two half naked men hugging on the floor?

(http://www.lol-email.com/emailimages/GayJiuJitsu.jpg)
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Melvin on November 13, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
Sunfan and Masherbrum both have valid points.

The judging system has some serious flaws in my opinion. (I consider corruption a serious flaw)

Sunfan, I understand exactly what you are saying, and while I realize that MMA fighters are very dedicated to their craft, most ( if not all) would be decimated in a boxing ring. Being deprived of all the kicking, grappling, etc. would seal their doom. It's the same for a boxer entering the octagon. They train all their lives to keep feet on the floor, and now they are confronted with a totally new kind of fight. Two completely different disciplines.

Don't rule out boxing just yet fellas. I have a feeling that tonight's fight will pump some new life into the sport. I think that after Manny destroys his opponent, Mayweather just might have no more excuses left. If Mayweather still refuses to fight the winner of this match, he will be dead to the boxing world.

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 13, 2010, 03:40:25 PM
The thing about UFC is this: As an ex-bartender, I've seen (partook in) enough of those type of fights that I really don't get excited anymore.

I enjoy watching the sweet science because the fighters are handicapped to using their fists. ( Sometimes elbows, sometimes heads.)

Every punk, juvenile delinquent that I run into is "Training" for UFC....... :rofl

This is a boxing thread, so piss off. Dumb bellybutton midget. :lol :banana:

<S> Melvin

Exactly. UFC fighting is really little more then the kind of street fighting we were doing back in the 70's after the various kung foo movies became popular.
Everyone and their brother started fighting using a mix of the two.

YES UFC is more refined and the competitors skilled. but its really no different then your average street fighter was doing 30 years ago
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
in childhood, he missed classes to sell cigarettes on the street- augmenting their family income to buy food.
at age 14 he ran away to work as a welder by day, janitor by night- still sending money to support his impoverished mother and siblings.
at age 16, he fought his first professional fight, winning a purse of $40.00. until he went to hollywood and trained with freddie roach.

greatest fight-hits by hbo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sTJtQqclc)

now, attempting to accomplish what has never been. an unprecedented 8th world title!
the fighting CONGRESSMAN from the philippines! the pacman! manny pacquiao!

(http://img2.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/609/480/63936529-congressman-and.jpg)

the fight is in two hours!!!  :x :x :x barbecue is grilling, pizza in the oven and beer is chilled!!!  :x :x :x





Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 13, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
lolwut? :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tJp_HGg8BY
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 13, 2010, 08:04:49 PM

now, attempting to accomplish what has never been. an unprecedented 8th world title!

savor it while it lasts

this may be his last fight

Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 13, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
I would put the best boxing has against the best MMA has. I would bet my life that it would end within 2 mins with the MMA completely owning the boxer. And that 2 mins is the boxer running for his life for 1:55
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 13, 2010, 10:09:04 PM
lolwut? :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tJp_HGg8BY

hahaahhaha! i didnt get it at first but yes it sounds like a womans parts! hahahahha!
anyway, i always heard it as cleto reyes, a brand of 8oz gloves.

pac-margarito is the next fight, last undercard just about done(*edit: rigondeaux?)
im really not sure hes even going to win this, hes fighting a 5'11" well trained big guy.

and bip, take boxing as a different sport. mma and boxing have their own draws. just depends on the fan.
i dont like seeing naked men grappling. real men fight on their feet and with fists. not on the ground groping private parts.
 :aok
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 14, 2010, 01:02:49 AM
boy was i wrong. it wasnt even close!

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/590102/gyi0062457524.jpg)
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: trax1 on November 14, 2010, 01:06:03 AM
boy was i wrong. it wasnt even close!

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/590102/gyi0062457524.jpg)
It was never supposed to be close to begin with, Pacquiao was heavily favored going into the fight, like as far as betting goes every $4.50 you bet on Pacquiao only paid $1.



sp? fix.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: SgtPappy on November 14, 2010, 01:08:59 AM
Big surprise. Wasn't expecting a KO but this fight was far more interesting than the Cotto fight.

Go Pacquiao!
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: bagrat on November 14, 2010, 01:21:21 AM
pftt no surprise pac won it.  I wonder if people are making much money betting on him it's beyond obvious that he's gonna win.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: trax1 on November 14, 2010, 01:29:03 AM
pftt no surprise pac won it.  I wonder if people are making much money betting on him it's beyond obvious that he's gonna win.
Oh yeah I'm sure they did, but like I said in my previous post betting on him to win really didn't pay much, you had to wager $45 on him to win just $10, so you needed to risk a lot of money on him to actually win anything substantial, like to win just $1000 you would of had to risk $4500, and I know I wouldn't of taken the chance on losing that kinda money on the chance something did happen and he lost.

On the flip side of the bet for ever $10 you bet on Margarito to win you would have won $30, at least these were the odds being given at the betting website I use.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 14, 2010, 01:31:08 AM
Manny's running out of opponents
not to mention he's got 8 titles in 8 divisions

might as well step up to MMA :rofl

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/9/3/1667503/manny-pacquiao-i-want-to-try-mma

it's also a safe sport :aok
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: trax1 on November 14, 2010, 01:37:42 AM
Manny's running out of opponents
not to mention he's got 8 titles in 8 divisions

might as well step up to MMA :rofl

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/9/3/1667503/manny-pacquiao-i-want-to-try-mma

it's also a safe sport :aok
That would be interesting, but like they said he'd need at least 18 months to train, and a few warm up bouts before a big match up, but he definitely has the body type & speed to be a great light weight MMA fighter.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 14, 2010, 02:11:49 AM
little guy fought someone 4.5 inches taller, 17 lbs heavier, with six inches more reach.
pac delivered 400 punches to the head. i know i cant even take half a dozen.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i doubt pac would touch mma, too different a fight/technique. its like a man. united soccer player moving to nfl football.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Dadsguns on November 14, 2010, 08:50:07 AM
Pac is the Baddest dude on this planet pound for pound, not even Chuck Norris would go toe to toe with him, Chuck Norris would schedule his pap on the day he had to step in the ring with this guy just to get out of it........   :D
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Masherbrum on November 14, 2010, 09:18:27 AM
Pac is the Baddest dude on this planet pound for pound, not even Chuck Norris would go toe to toe with him, Chuck Norris would schedule his pap on the day he had to step in the ring with this guy just to get out of it........   :D

 :t
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: SgtPappy on November 14, 2010, 10:37:57 AM
... and they never heard from Dadsguns again...
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: crazyivan on November 14, 2010, 04:14:17 PM
... and they never heard from Dadsguns again...
:rofl
 
  Well it looks like Pacman did fight to answer the OP's question. :old: Never a good sign when you're trash talking a guy and he just smiles at you. :D
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Perrine on November 14, 2010, 05:38:54 PM
whoa
I was knocked out by the Pac's words of wisdom (starting at 0:33) :old: :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STzYI8aj5ew
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 14, 2010, 06:12:34 PM
true warriors.

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20101114/capt.84a478c6fad84a2e98e4c1916e71e249-21382b07a3fc4e3cbf2ebe974a948f85-0.jpg)

Quote
Margarito remained in the hospital on Sunday and promoter Bob Arum said the boxer has a broken right eye socket and will have surgery Tuesday in Texas.

Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: crazyivan on November 14, 2010, 07:15:09 PM
The good thing about HBO fights are. They reair  for free a month later! :rock  GO PAC :rock

The youtube Margaritto prefight crap about Freddie Roach was very distasteful IMO. Watch out for karma Marggie, you can't take many more beatings like that. :old:
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: Dadsguns on November 14, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
... and they never heard from Dadsguns again...

 :headscratch:

The Mayweather fight hopefully will come to fruition

http://boxscorenews.com/pacquiao-destroys-margarito-still-calling-out-floyd-mayweather-jr-p8376-68.htm
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: trax1 on November 14, 2010, 08:37:52 PM
:headscratch:

The Mayweather fight hopefully will come to fruition

http://boxscorenews.com/pacquiao-destroys-margarito-still-calling-out-floyd-mayweather-jr-p8376-68.htm
Mayweather needs to fight Pac plain & simple, like the article says, if he wants to cement his place in the boxing history books as something more then just a footnote this fight needs to happen.  I think that Mayweather is afraid to fight Pac because he knows that with this fight he's not guaranteed to win and he's using the steroid thing as just an excuse.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 14, 2010, 09:16:55 PM
pac already agreed to as late as 7 days before and right after the fight blood testing.
i think mayweather wants anytime up to and including right before the fight blood testing.

pac doesnt want that, last time blood got drawn from him was right before morales-1 fight.
nevada s.a.c. said they "lost" his blood sample so they insisted on drawing blood from him
during the time frame he was dehydrating (to make weight for weigh-in later in the evening.)
try not eating/drinking water a full day before you donate blood, you'll see how that feels yourself.

floyd wants to use that to his advantage. weaken pac before he gets into the ring.
or does he really believe that HGH, steroids, etc. works in as little as six days, and cant be detected
through blood test/urine/hair sample right after the fight?

there is no other explanation. floyd IS scared. now he's looking at 35 years jail in NV for felony assault, robbery/theft.
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: skribetm on November 14, 2010, 09:22:22 PM
just for further proof that floyd is silly scared to lose his all-important zero loss,
he didnt bother making contract weight (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4485941) for his fight against the much smaller j.m. marquez.

greatness is not achieved by having a perfect record, but by never failing to rise each time one stumbles.
floyd will never get this.  ;)
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 14, 2010, 10:51:47 PM
I would put the best boxing has against the best MMA has. I would bet my life that it would end within 2 mins with the MMA completely owning the boxer. And that 2 mins is the boxer running for his life for 1:55

That would depend on what rules the fight were being fought by.
I suspect each would dominate in their own rules setting
Title: Re: Did Pacquioa fight?
Post by: trax1 on November 15, 2010, 12:05:51 AM
That would depend on what rules the fight were being fought by.
I suspect each would dominate in their own rules setting
Not necessarily, boxers are only trained in boxing, but MMA guys are not only trained boxers, their also trained in the martial arts.  In MMA you basically have 2 kinds of fighters, you have guys that specialize in whats called "ground & pound" where they are good at submissions & fighting on the ground, then you have guys called "strikers" who are good at fighting on their feet..  Now I think that a striker from MMA would have a decent chance at beating a boxer, but I doubt that a boxer would have much of any shot at beating an MMA fighter.