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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: stealth on November 12, 2010, 05:33:59 AM
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I think we should be able to land kills on the field, not just on the concrete. I mean, like didn't they have trucks back then to move aircraft. Pilots after pilots like miss landing their kills by like 2 inches off the concrete. I mean I had to drag a 262 with all my kills, heavily damaged 10 sectors. After all that hard work my squaddies put into have me land my kills in my 262, it was all for nothing because I missed by 2 feet off the runway. I mean I was pilot wounded, both my engines we're out, I ran out of fuel, just as I came over the field. I did it all and I missed by 2 feet. The other part is my plane landed on its nose. It could fall on the bottom or the top. If it fell on the bottom I would have landed it. No, though it landed on the top. All those other people with even more insane stories about missing by ------ that much. Even with the people without damage on their aircraft. They sometimes are off just a little and don't know it, and BOOM they don't land any of it at all by this much.-------------
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/1118-4/crash-landing-uss-enterprise.jpg) :noid :pray :pray :pray
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+1
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I think we should be able to land kills on the field, not just on the concrete.
The line has been drawn many years ago. This has been discussed since many years ago. HiTech has stated he will not change it.
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You are going to be flamed my boy................ Not by me, but I can't speak for the rest of them.
Landing your plane has nothing to do with you..... It's about the plane. Ditching an aircraft basically means the aircraft will be taken out of operational service for an extended period to repair it..... That is if it can be saved at all. A pilot in the USAAC wouldn't be court marshaled for ditching or bailing but his CO certainly wouldn't be too happy.
Landing your craft on the concrete is a "happy medium" in this game. In RL, a dead stick bird that smashes down on the runway is still a DITCH. In fact reminds me of a quote "I managed to ditch her right on the runway"
So........................... ........
No
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I said many years ago that since a lot of WW2 airbases were grass, should get a successful landing not ditch. I'm sure many before and after have stated this, but no change.
So, I'm happy anyway. It wouldn't affect me either way cause I never make it back to base,lol.
<S> Oz
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I said many years ago that since a lot of WW2 airbases were grass, should get a successful landing not ditch. I'm sure many before and after have stated this, but no change.
So, I'm happy anyway. It wouldn't affect me either way cause I never make it back to base,lol.
<S> Oz
ask to make field's runways look dirtier or grassier then... you realise that even though it may just be grass or dirt, that the runways were hard packed dirt or covered in makeshift runways so as to not destroy the plane upon landing or during takeoff.
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I think we should be able to land kills on the field, not just on the concrete. I mean, like didn't they have trucks back then to move aircraft.
I think your wish should be for using perkies to call for a truck to tow you to the hangar - the more kills you're looking to land the more perkies it will cost you.
ask to make field's runways look dirtier or grassier then... you realise that even though it may just be grass or dirt, that the runways were hard packed dirt or covered in makeshift runways so as to not destroy the plane upon landing or during takeoff.
Like this?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298614.msg3821134.html#msg3821134 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298614.msg3821134.html#msg3821134)
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I think your wish should be for using perkies to call for a truck to tow you to the hangar - the more kills you're looking to land the more perkies it will cost you.
Like this?
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298614.msg3821134.html#msg3821134 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298614.msg3821134.html#msg3821134)
yup :aok
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In reality if you crash land on the paved runway you do not call it a successful landing, here you can cartwheel your burning airplane on a road on some V base hitting two tanks in the proses and cumming to a screeching stop on top of a hangar and still call it a successful landing.
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2964/cfd11c3298.jpg)
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Missed by 2 inches? Really? Only 2 inches?
Sorry. Gotta give this one a (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6170/bsflag.gif)
This was a successful landing:
(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8393/closeenough.jpg)
Try harder to do it right next time.
wrongway
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Start with 100%
Landing anywhere on your base of origin -/+ 0%
Landing anywhere on a field not of origin -10%
Landing in a town /city/facility - 20%
Landing in open freindly country - 30%
Landing anywhere enemy country - 60%
deduct from any of the above
as any above with minor damage (no parts missing) -10%
as any above with significant damage (some parts missing) -20%
as any above with major damage (unflyable) -30%
over 79% = successfull landing
41-79% = ditch
40% & below = capture
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You are going to be flamed my boy................ Not by me, but I can't speak for the rest of them.
Landing your plane has nothing to do with you..... It's about the plane. Ditching an aircraft basically means the aircraft will be taken out of operational service for an extended period to repair it..... That is if it can be saved at all. A pilot in the USAAC wouldn't be court marshaled for ditching or bailing but his CO certainly wouldn't be too happy.
Landing your craft on the concrete is a "happy medium" in this game. In RL, a dead stick bird that smashes down on the runway is still a DITCH. In fact reminds me of a quote "I managed to ditch her right on the runway"
So........................... ........
No
Say it again BigDaddy..... :aok
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In reality if you crash land on the paved runway you do not call it a successful landing, here you can cartwheel your burning airplane on a road on some V base hitting two tanks in the proses and cumming to a screeching stop on top of a hangar and still call it a successful landing.
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2964/cfd11c3298.jpg)
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Though I agree that the space given for a 'successful landing' should be increased, I don't particularly agree that it should be the whole airbase. I'd like to see the space increased about 2/3 meters from each side of the runway, that way, you don't have to land particularly ON the pavement for a successful, but within those extra few 6-9 feet.
In retrospect, I think 4-7 feet sounds better.
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Missed by 2 inches? Really? Only 2 inches?
Sorry. Gotta give this one a (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6170/bsflag.gif)
This was a successful landing:
(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8393/closeenough.jpg)
Try harder to do it right next time.
wrongway
Do you even play the game? I look at the field advanced graphics bad graphics I don't see one line of concrete like that. It's all just completely straight. How many patches ago was that pic taken? Even though a couple patches ago. You can see a kinda of a line in the dirt a couple feet off the concrete.
A ditch is basically crash landing in the water. In RL there's no such thing as ditching on dirt. Just increase the amount of an official landing by a couple feet. Plus, how about if you land on the field but still not on the concrete. Call it a crash landing and take what ever logical amount of points seems good enough.
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Do you even play the game? I look at the field advanced graphics bad graphics I don't see one line of concrete like that. It's all just completely straight. How many patches ago was that pic taken? Even though a couple patches ago. You can see a kinda of a line in the dirt a couple feet off the concrete.
A ditch is basically crash landing in the water. In RL there's no such thing as ditching on dirt. Just increase the amount of an official landing by a couple feet. Plus, how about if you land on the field but still not on the concrete. Call it a crash landing and take what ever logical amount of points seems good enough.
If you cut the graphics way back that picture is what you get.
Hitech has already said the edge of the runway is the line and that is where it's going to stay.
Learn to land better.
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Actually the way it is is a great challenge.
If landing kills is something important to you than you have a reason to improve your landing skills and it becomes fun trying to limp a damaged aircraft back to base.
Sort of adds to the immersion giving you an incentive to get home alive and perform a proper landing.
+1 to the current system
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O well, at least I got to share my little story.
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That was a good little mission Stealth & I was honoured to fly with you guys.
Bummer about the landing you tried so hard to land a plane that had nothing going for it & these jokers tell you to learn how to fly better.
But that is forum life for you no sympathy nor understanding from the superior know it alls.
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Well thats to bad, i had 19 kills in a 190d and barely missed the runway. ITS EASYER IF YOU HIT THE RUNWAY :eek:
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I was blacking out every 2 seconds and missed it by that much.
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I was blacking out every 2 seconds and missed it by that much.
if you line up right you can land in a total black out. I've done it many a time (darn P38 pilot wounds!), again, it just takes practice. Know the limits and shoot for inside of them. It's just like any other game. You don't get "kinged" in checkers for getting to the row before the end row, you don't get 6 points in football getting tackled before the goal line. In both of these cases, your not going to get the line moved either. :aok
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these jokers tell you to learn how to fly better.
I certainly didn't mean arrogance, heck, I rarely land kills, but I do like the current way it's modeled, adds to the challenge.
btw stealth, Wish I could have helped you with problem getting into the AvA.
Maybe you could pm Skuzzy?
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I can't tell you how many I've "landed", landing gear shot out, rudder missing, engine dead or dying.
But I can say it is a challenge every time. :airplane: :salute
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Your name in lights is your reward for getting kills, knowing when to rtb,not pushing your smoking engine or wounded pilot and being able to land your warbird correctly
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A ditch is basically crash landing in the water. In RL there's no such thing as ditching on dirt. Just increase the amount of an official landing by a couple feet. Plus, how about if you land on the field but still not on the concrete. Call it a crash landing and take what ever logical amount of points seems good enough.
Before you lecture someone on terminology, it would be a very smart idea to learn the meanings yourself prior to you lecturing someone else about them. Ditching isn't nor ever was, a term used exclusively to refer to crash or forced landings on water.
As for your little whine...err request...as someone pointed out a line has to be drawn somewhere and having to land on concrete is that line. Otherwise you get rid of the incentive to land on the concrete since you'll be able to land anywhere on the field successfully. You get a ditch, live with it.
ack-ack
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pffffft landing shmanding, what is this landing thing of which you speak? :neener:
If your landing, you didnt fight long enough :rock
elfy ( charter member of the one-way 109 club ) :old:
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I was gliding in 120mphs on the deck for the love of god. Dodging bullets from a A-8 and a 1-C.
Well Ack-Ack not to be rude but, where did you find out that information on what's a ditch and what isn't?
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Many years of research probably.
I don't recall anybody catching him short on a point re WWII history.
Jherne, Simaril, Widewing, and Murdr, are also great sources of accurate history, terminology, etc..
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Totally not trying to be a jack-o but your thinking is totally wrong. And I already told you this on page 1. YOU, crashing down on a runway, in RL...... Still a DITCH. It's not about you dookie, it's about the plane. Can your aircraft take off again? No? Ditch.
And don't question AKAK.... I did once........... Once. :uhoh
I was gliding in 120mphs on the deck for the love of god. Dodging bullets from a A-8 and a 1-C.
Well Ack-Ack not to be rude but, where did you find out that information on what's a ditch and what isn't?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing
The National Transportation Safety Board of the United States government defines "ditching" in its aviation accident coding manual as "a planned event in which a flight crew knowingly makes a controlled emergency landing in water.
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Yes and no..... First off, the NTSB does in the present day define a ditch as related to water landing:
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/aviation.htm
http://www.ntsb.gov/events/2009/weehawken-nj/14-gardlin-presentation.pdf
However, we shouls be speaking in terms of WWII, no? When pilots ditched any place they could.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing
The National Transportation Safety Board of the United States government defines "ditching" in its aviation accident coding manual as "a planned event in which a flight crew knowingly makes a controlled emergency landing in water.
After all, our game is WWII, and we shouls are............... WTF is a shoul? :headscratch:
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yea it's been discussed to no end and they always say "no change shall be made", but on the flip side you can get away with some pretty ridiculous stuff too. The other day I plowed into the carrier deck so hard that i went through it and ended up in that room where u choose your load out. 100% successful landing thank you thank you
or you could even bounce your plane off town buildings and come to a stop in a flaming wreckage, also a successful landing. I think if u tried that in RL they would call it an act of terrorism.
They should however let u land on battleships too when the CV gets destroyed, u know how hard it is to get a plane on one of those and survive? just for a fancy ditch :old:
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I was always under the impression that was a Landing...... No? :frown:
They should however let u land on battleships too when the CV gets destroyed, u know how hard it is to get a plane on one of those and survive? just for a fancy ditch :old:
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maybe they should call it a watering, never seen a ditch on the ocean.
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maybe they should call it a watering, never seen a ditch on the ocean.
The ocean is one big ditch.
It's just filled with water. ;)
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i don't see how if someone misses the run way by a bit they can end up in a mess of metal, i land on the ground all the time! and i'm perfectly fine! :airplane:
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It's NOT YOU...... It's THE PLANE.
i don't see how if someone misses the run way by a bit they can end up in a mess of metal, i land on the ground all the time! and i'm perfectly fine! :airplane:
And just in case......
Не Вие е ...... Това е самолета.
Ajo nuk ju ...... Është avioni.
Ce n'est pas toi ...... C'est l'avion.
Дело не в тебе ...... Это плоскости.
No eres tú ...... Es EL AVIÓN.
यह तुम नहीं है ...... यह विमान है.
Es liegt nicht an dir ...... Es ist das Flugzeug.
这不是你......它的飞机。
Dit is NIE JY ...... Dit is die vliegtuig.
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It's NOT YOU...... It's THE PLANE.
And just in case......
Не Вие е ...... Това е самолета.
Ajo nuk ju ...... Është avioni.
Ce n'est pas toi ...... C'est l'avion.
Дело не в тебе ...... Это плоскости.
No eres tú ...... Es EL AVIÓN.
यह तुम नहीं है ...... यह विमान है.
Es liegt nicht an dir ...... Es ist das Flugzeug.
这不是你......它的飞机。
Dit is NIE JY ...... Dit is die vliegtuig.
LOL
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Often, during a hairball full of vultures over my field I'll ditch quickly on concrete even if I have intact gear or 100% intact aircraft, simply because it's more difficult to line up on a plane which ditches because it stops much quicker, and I'm often in the tower before the fire bullets hit the dirt where I was. I've practiced this to the point that I can ditch most birds inside a V-base hanger without crashing. It's very difficult for a fighter to follow me in or kill me through the hanger walls. If I don't have any kills I'll just ditch on any clear grass, but skidding inside a hanger will give added cover to "Land" my kills.
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it can be quite difficult...however the circumstanes a field is a field, meaning it doesnt move and you must judge your plane right (considering you have it mostly under copntrol enough to make any type of landing) and plop it onto the runway. It is a given at most times you will NOT be making it home and so just stay for the fight but IMO if your really are worried about landing points or kills etc then you shouldnt place yourself into a dangerous enough position in the first place. You should always be able to control some sort of outcome regardless the odds.
anywho, my favortie "desperate landings" if you will, are flying off of a CV, into an enemy base...pieces missing, engine oil hit, possibly even a Pw (if your lucky :lol) and trying to land on a Moving object, as some tards cant help themselves with moving a CV every 2 seconds once it straightens out :confused: Toss in a missing wing or flap and Ta Da, landed succesfully. I say a runway is the least of my worries when it comes to landing near deadstick if not already deadstick...them CV landings are quite entertaining :aok :rock :joystick: :joystick: :joystick:
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I just think if you up a perk plane and ditch like just off it. Loosing 100% perk value you launched with is kinda unfair like at least take off 5% of the perk value you took off with, if you ditch.
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Missed by 2 inches? Really? Only 2 inches?
Sorry. Gotta give this one a (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6170/bsflag.gif)
This was a successful landing:
(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8393/closeenough.jpg)
Try harder to do it right next time.
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I have landed in a hangar....nearly shatting myself with 7-9 kills to land for the first time. Then I go to end sortie and uh oh...gives me a ditch! Think it would be cool to have like a 1000M perimeter where if u land your plane you get successfull landing. :rock
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Lets be honest about this. It has nothing to do with anything more then perks and points. Who cares!
It's just a cartoon airplane. Get another one :)
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I just think if you up a perk plane and ditch like just off it. Loosing 100% perk value you launched with is kinda unfair like at least take off 5% of the perk value you took off with, if you ditch.
I have landed in a hangar....nearly shatting myself with 7-9 kills to land for the first time. Then I go to end sortie and uh oh...gives me a ditch! Think it would be cool to have like a 1000M perimeter where if u land your plane you get successfull landing. :rock
and the point STILL is, if getting a good landing is important to you, get GOOD AT LANDING on the stinking runway! jeeeez KIDS! :neener:
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Even if you people EVER got your way (which you will not), next you'd be wishing for (or complaining about) not landing your kills because you were mere yards away from the perimeter of the airbase as a whole.
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Well it's a nice idea to increase the runway or landing points. Nice to see everybodys opinion on this topic. The sad fact is, this rarely happens to me. For the guys this does happen often to, well their just bad pilots. It does though give you reason to actually fight for what your trying to land. Makes it more interesting, you know. Besides the perk thing isn't a big deal eather. Up a P40E for 2 hours and you double the amount of perks you lost.
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Well it's a nice idea to increase the runway or landing points. Nice to see everybodys opinion on this topic. The sad fact is, this rarely happens to me. For the guys this does happen often to, well their just bad pilots. It does though give you reason to actually fight for what your trying to land. Makes it more interesting, you know. Besides the perk thing isn't a big deal eather. Up a P40E for 2 hours and you double the amount of perks you lost.
like you said though, what if they are bad pilots? Upping a p40 (which i agree is a great perk farmer) doen't mean they can still hit much and earn a few, if any, perks. :old:
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landing kills = landing skill :aok
best
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Gear up, on fire, and pancaking down on the tarmac counts.
Anything else not on the tarmac doesnt.
Seems to me its a give/take
Still gives the pilot options...
Works for me!!
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Say It Again, Say It Again!!!! :aok
anywho, my favortie "desperate landings" if you will, are flying off of a CV, into an enemy base...pieces missing, engine oil hit, possibly even a Pw (if your lucky :lol) and trying to land on a Moving object, as some tards cant help themselves with moving a CV every 2 seconds once it straightens out :confused: Toss in a missing wing or flap and Ta Da, landed succesfully. I say a runway is the least of my worries when it comes to landing near deadstick if not already deadstick...them CV landings are quite entertaining :aok :rock :joystick: :joystick: :joystick:
:salute
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Say It Again, Say It Again!!!! :aok
:salute
:lol nice enthusiasm, :salute sir!