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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: MachFly on November 12, 2010, 11:33:30 AM
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Can we have runways numbers not just N, E, NE, ect...
It would make things a lot more realistic and should not be hard to make.
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if your asking for numbers then that means you might as well put in threshold and center line markings too. but isnt the reason that they dont have it is because so the enemy cant spot it faster.
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I like it. +1
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Do you mean just in the hanger or actually written on the runways? For the latter, I don't believe most WWII airfields were labeled that way (correct me if I'm wrong). As for just in the hanger, meh, since every field would be the same I don't think it would add much.
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Do you mean just in the hanger or actually written on the runways? For the latter, I don't believe most WWII airfields were labeled that way (correct me if I'm wrong). As for just in the hanger, meh, since every field would be the same I don't think it would add much.
I don't know about small airfields, but I believe large bases were.
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Just look at your compass heading before you up. If your heading is 170 degrees, you're on runway 17.
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Just look at your compass heading before you up. If your heading is 170 degrees, you're on runway 17.
I'd rather have the runway tell me that ;)
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
By adding a number on a runway?
:rolleyes:
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
That's intelligence profiling sir and I, for one, resent it. :D
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Just look at your compass heading before you up. If your heading is 170 degrees, you're on runway 17.
As Yossarian said, that's the runway's job not my.
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
That's ok, the stupid people can learn (hopefully).
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You have alot more faith in stupid people than I do :D
Since there is no tower operator, I guess you could always call out on range channel. LLogann
downwind for runway 18 right :eek:
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
Just for the record, LLogan, ex-military denotes that a person was dishonourably discharged.
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Just do both.
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I don't know about small airfields, but I believe large bases were.
Nope, i think we should have like a super small field with just dirt
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LLogann downwind for runway 18 right
Yep :noid
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How would runways numbers make game more realistic? You wouldn't be able to see them unless you are vulching.
Semp
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If we said Retired we'd have lost half the people here.
Just for the record, LLogan, ex-military denotes that a person was dishonourably discharged.
I'm not sure that's what he's talking about... But that I agree with, would be cool. Just not changing what the tower buttons say.
By adding a number on a runway?
:rolleyes:
But actually if we look at military runways, they don't use numbers much......... :uhoh
How would runways numbers make game more realistic? You wouldn't be able to see them unless you are vulching.
Semp
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I have yet to see a paved runway without numbers (military bases including).
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I have yet to see a paved runway without numbers (military bases including).
ww2 era runways?
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I found a few pictures, however I am not 100% that there from WWII.
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Anothercircuit.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/AvroLincoln.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Onthecircuit.jpg)
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It depends on the country of origin really, but even today, not all runways have numbers......
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/images/fermanagh/st_angelo/angelo_runway.jpg)
I do think there are laws in place (at least in the US <FAA>) that all commercial runways need to have a designation.
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How would this eye candy add any value to gameplay? I would guess most everyone would rather see HTC spend their dev resources on things that actually enhance gameplay.
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It depends on the country of origin really, but even today, not all runways have numbers......
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/images/fermanagh/st_angelo/angelo_runway.jpg)
I do think there are laws in place (at least in the US <FAA>) that all commercial runways need to have a designation.
I'm sure there is, but like I said, figuring out a runway number wouldn't be difficult.
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It is interesting when the Earth's movement "relocates" a runway number. :D
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No, no, you're absolutely right. And I don't see it adding to MA gameplay but it may actually provide a service in the TA. As such, might not be a bad idea. My mind has changed.
+1
I'm sure there is, but like I said, figuring out a runway number wouldn't be difficult.
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ok, it is just simple. lets say a trainer in the TA will have to say "take off runway xxx, south" will he say, wouldnt it be simpler to say take off "south". just like now? or should the same runway have 2 numbers one at each end so the trainee knows exactly which way to go. so two numbers for each runway, like it happens in RL. oh wait, it doesnt.
semp
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Taking off, yes..... But what about landing vectors? Many a newb may not be aware of their heading. " I want you to line up runway 8 for the landing. " That's how it might make for a good thing.
ok, it is just simple. lets say a trainer in the TA will have to say "take off runway xxx, south" will he say, wouldnt it be simpler to say take off "south". just like now? or should the same runway have 2 numbers one at each end so the trainee knows exactly which way to go. so two numbers for each runway, like it happens in RL. oh wait, it doesnt.
semp
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Do most new guys even know where the compass is in whatever airplane they're flying? Much less know how to read it? All the runways always point the same way on every base of the same size. If you're approaching from the south, depending on the size of the base you'd be setting up for a landing either NW, N, or NE. I don't see what would be gained by landing on "runway 35". Besides, we have the GPS plane icon that shows your location and heading on the clipboard. If people can't figure out how to get back to base and have even a slight idea of the runway heading best suited for that approach, there are bigger issues than calling vectors for them. Besides, who's going to play ATC? You? Certainly not me...I signed up to play a combat game, not be the schmuck in the tower vectoring people around the field.
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Taking off, yes..... But what about landing vectors? Many a newb may not be aware of their heading. " I want you to line up runway 8 for the landing. " That's how it might make for a good thing.
cool and he will ask "how can I tell which one is runway 8 and from which direction?" as it is you can hardly see the runways untill you are almost on top of them, now you want them to do a flyby to look at a runway number?
semp
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Do most new guys even know where the compass is in whatever airplane they're flying? Much less know how to read it? All the runways always point the same way on every base of the same size. If you're approaching from the south, depending on the size of the base you'd be setting up for a landing either NW, N, or NE. I don't see what would be gained by landing on "runway 35". Besides, we have the GPS plane icon that shows your location and heading on the clipboard. If people can't figure out how to get back to base and have even a slight idea of the runway heading best suited for that approach, there are bigger issues than calling vectors for them. Besides, who's going to play ATC? You? Certainly not me...I signed up to play a combat game, not be the schmuck in the tower vectoring people around the field.
turn friendly collisions on and it might be a little useful but the hilarity of watching people scream about somebody running into them might be worth it :devil
Oooooohhhh HTC collisions on and runway numbers.. I'll even volunteer to work as a traffic controller for a month :D
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I found a few pictures, however I am not 100% that there from WWII.
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Anothercircuit.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/AvroLincoln.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Onthecircuit.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/AvroLincoln.jpg)the germens had seen the fiald becuse the lines on the run ways
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It is interesting when the Earth's movement "relocates" a runway number. :D
the magnetic field does that :)
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It depends on the country of origin really, but even today, not all runways have numbers......
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/images/fermanagh/st_angelo/angelo_runway.jpg)
I do think there are laws in place (at least in the US <FAA>) that all commercial runways need to have a designation.
the X means the runway is closed.
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I found a few pictures, however I am not 100% that there from WWII.
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Anothercircuit.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/AvroLincoln.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/Onthecircuit.jpg)
Runway numbers didn't help that B-24 for chit!
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Runway numbers didn't help that B-24 for chit!
Nope
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it's not a B-24. If I'm right, that's a Avro Lincoln
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(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Biggles615/RAF%20Kenley/AvroLincoln.jpg)the germens had seen the fiald becuse the lines on the run ways
What?
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That's intelligence profiling sir and I, for one, resent it. :D
:rofl
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I do not see how this would add to gameplay in any way.
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I do not see how this would add to gameplay in any way.
Because runways have numbers just like our planes have skins.
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As I said, now, I am actually all for this, especially in the TA, but numbers are more after war than during war. And not always the case based on country. Commercial and private fields at this point may have but military airbases didn't really need them for the same reasons people are arguing against the idea here. Just like we may say in game, RL sticks were ordered to land SW, E, in some crazy CAGs cases, sometime V....... (Vertical) (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:1j8soYNCVjgu5M:http://micom.net/oops/B-24nose-down.jpg&t=1)
Because runways have numbers just like our planes have skins.
You fly don't you? That's a reference to FAA or NTSB standards of the present day. This English field, currently may be closed but there is no painted over numbers.... Even today's paints and surface painting techniques, you will see the "old" markings. :salute
the X means the runway is closed.
Burtonwood Field, UK - 1956
(http://www.mywarrington.me.uk/burtonwood_airfield_june_1956_bassociation.JPG)
Henderson Field, Guadalcanal - 1959
(http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/FL/Henderson_FL_59.jpg)
Mareeba Field, AUS - (Circa WWII)
(http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/mareeba03.jpg)
It does look to have RAF markings :aok
it's not a B-24. If I'm right, that's a Avro Lincoln
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And I'm surprised nobody has said "if you want realism, all Small Fields should be compacted dirt/gravel/grass fields since we all know a 'real' military field would have more than 1 runway"
Did they paint numbers on grass fields?
(OMG.... Now I thinking I'm swaying back towards no....)
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My guess for grass/dirt fields is they just built them into prevailing winds and called it good. I've never seen a picture of a dirt airstrip with runway numbers. This really isn't needed for AH, as the current runway setup works fine.
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No......... This game isn't for ex-military, nor pilots..... It's for the general public. Although I would prefer it, I feel it would cause confusion for the general stupid people.
like me? :lol
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It does look to have RAF markings :aok
markings didn't give it away, the Vert stabs did
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You fly don't you? That's a reference to FAA or NTSB standards of the present day. This English field, currently may be closed but there is no painted over numbers.... Even today's paints and surface painting techniques, you will see the "old" markings. :salute
Yeah, I'm a pilot.
Could it be that only a few specific airports in UK did not have numbers? Also what about the airports in UK that US used, did thous have numbers? I seen pictures of that era of airports that had and did not have numbers, however I'm not sure where they were located.