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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: IronDog on November 19, 2010, 07:25:37 PM
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When the B-29 becomes available,I shouldn't think it will be a hangar queen.I'm thinking the sky will be filled with B-29's.Just a thought,and I wonder how they will handle the automatic turrets?They had to have a flight engineer to handle keeping the four engines running well.A very advanced airplane for it's day.
IronDog
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i'm sure it will be perked.. I'm guessing around 300 for a formation.
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i'm sure it will be perked.. I'm guessing around 300 for a formation.
around 100 perks ( depends in players on your side) and another 200 for drones I bet, and I think the turrets will be the way they are now
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I think you're gonna need some serious flight planning if you want to get high enough not to be attack by everyone...
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Hopefully it will be set around the same perk cost as the ME 262.
ack-ack
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Hopefully it will be set around the same perk cost as the ME 262.
ack-ack
I hope so...if not at least half of what the ME 262 usually is. Maybe 130-175 per plane.
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Have they given an ETA for inclusion in the game?
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2 weeks
:)
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128 per
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I dont think it should be perked as high as the 262. Im sure there are tons of people with tons of bomber perks, but once those perks disappear, its much harder to rack up bomber perks than it is to rack up fighter perks. You can jump in a fighter and rack up a 100 perks in a fairly short time, compared to the time it takes to rack up 100 bomber perks.
I know at first the MA will be filled with them, but anyone that takes one up is going to be an immediate target. Once things even out again i dont think they will be that big of a deal or seen THAT often, definetly not if the perk setting is in the 100s. I dont fly bombers all that often so i dont really care either way.
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It will no doubt have a ridiculously stupid perk on it.
Its almost a waste of time and effort to bother putting it in the game.
Its really not that hot of a plane to deserve the inane perk amount that it will receive.
Its a really slow climbing bomber that they will perk so high, that after the "newness" wears off, it'll be as rare as the P-39.
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50 perks, 100 perks, 100 perks... too much speculation at this point. How about we wait until it's actually here, sometime next year? ;)
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I dont think it should be perked as high as the 262. Im sure there are tons of people with tons of bomber perks, but once those perks disappear, its much harder to rack up bomber perks than it is to rack up fighter perks. You can jump in a fighter and rack up a 100 perks in a fairly short time, compared to the time it takes to rack up 100 bomber perks.
I know at first the MA will be filled with them, but anyone that takes one up is going to be an immediate target. Once things even out again i dont think they will be that big of a deal or seen THAT often, definetly not if the perk setting is in the 100s. I dont fly bombers all that often so i dont really care either way.
I believe this is purely a matter of personal opinion. Why would a bomber pilot rack up more perks in fighters than bombers, when they mostly fly bombers? It doesn't make sense. If you bomb all the time, bomber perks will be no issue. Same goes with fighter perks; if you're in a fighter all the time, you'll have a plethora of fighter perks.
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Ever noticed that you get bomber perks for bombing, and fighter perks for flying fighters, and vehicle perks in vehicles? And for years the bomber pilots haven't had anything particularly useful to spend perks on so some of players have bomber perks in the 10's of thousands.
<S>
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half the players here probably have about 10,000+ bomber perks here so its not gonna matter.
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half the players here probably have about 10,000+ bomber perks here so its not gonna matter.
5342.8 to be exact lol
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lol i was close
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lol i was close
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Thanks for the replies.I think the B-29 will get people that mainly fly fighters to give it a whirl,but then it will settle down,and it will be flown by the buff pilot group.I 'm sure it will be flown a lot more than any other buff.My take on the perk thing,is it shouldn't be very many perks because it's a bomber.I don't fly perk planes,as I'm too poor of a pilot to accumulate many points.I didn't mean to start a argument over the perk thing,as I was just curious.Fair skies and good hunting to all :salute
IronDog
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I must be doing something wrong, I only have 3000 perks. :(
Granted this is all speculation but I'm going to guess that the B29 will be anywhere from 90-110 perks per plane. That makes it 300ish for a formation which, IMO, would make it pretty fair in the MA.
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I would have a hard time believing it would be perked very high..
I would even go as far to say a bit less than the AR234 ( 78/per I believe )
The argument being that even though it may outrun most, if not all, non perked prop planes, the 262s and 163s will feed on them like, in words spoken by MGD ( <S>), a hobo on a ham sandwich.
I'm not convinced the 29 is going to be the uber of all bombers. I really think it has some vulnerabilities that will become painfully apparent once the MA hordes are released on it.
Personally, I plan on spending a lot of time in TA152s when the 29s come out. A few shots in one of those massive wings ( even I should be able to hit something that big! ) and they should fall.
When, of course, I'm not driving one myself.. :t
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Hopefully it will be set around the same perk cost as the ME 262.
ack-ack
i like yours it cheapest im going to be useing my b 17 alot befor its even out to get it at 100 perks
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i like yours it cheapest im going to be useing my b 17 alot befor its even out to get it at 100 perks
"IF" its perked at 100, you'll be able to fly one plane once.
Carefull taking off!! :old:
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"IF" its perked at 100, you'll be able to fly one plane once.
Carefull taking off!! :old:
ill fly it offline a little i hope and online ill sav up for swoops epic mission :D
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I wanted to fly a Mossie 16 sortie, no drones. I didn't have a single bomber perk. I flew one Ki-67 sortie in which I dropped three 250kg bombs on three different town centers and downed a single Ta152. I did not manage to land any of my bombers.
That earned me about 35 perk points.
The single Mossie 16 sortie where I dropped a 'cookie' on a town center and mostly missed with my two 500lb bombs on another town and did land earned me about 8 more perk points.
Bomber points are not hard to earn.
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I was wondering if we are going to get the early B29 gun package of twin guns or the later quad version?
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I must be doing something wrong, I only have 3000 perks. :(
610 bomber perks
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I wanted to fly a Mossie 16 sortie, no drones. I didn't have a single bomber perk. I flew one Ki-67 sortie in which I dropped three 250kg bombs on three different town centers and downed a single Ta152. I did not manage to land any of my bombers.
That earned me about 35 perk points.
The single Mossie 16 sortie where I dropped a 'cookie' on a town center and mostly missed with my two 500lb bombs on another town and did land earned me about 8 more perk points.
Bomber points are not hard to earn.
Gah, you beat me to it Karnak! :D
Yeah, like he said, flying one sortie in a Ki67 will get you plenty perks. I did the same thing when I wanted to fly the new mossie when I came back. :aok
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The other night I flew a B25C in "fighter mode" and I landed 4 kills in 2 sorties. Those 4 kills netted me 45 bomber perks for about 20 minutes of flying.
If you need buff perks all you need to do is just fly a few missions in the Ki-67 (or the Boston 3/B25 if you're feeling gutsy) and you can earn them pretty quick. The Ki67 is the best though because it climbs fast, fly's fast, and has a decent armament even if it goes up like a Zippo. Just use the 8x100kg bombs on towns and you can rake the points in over time.
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Bombing tanks in a B5N gives quick perks too... :bolt:
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When the B-29 becomes available,I shouldn't think it will be a hangar queen.I'm thinking the sky will be filled with B-29's.Just a thought,and I wonder how they will handle the automatic turrets?They had to have a flight engineer to handle keeping the four engines running well.A very advanced airplane for it's day.
IronDog
Irondog, right now Arabian Knights (squad I am in) is flying Knights. The first time you wanna fly one of these big beautiful babies you let me know and I will escort you no matter how long a mission you choose.
BTW, if you are not a Knight, definitly let me know, however "escort" is most likely not the term to describe my actions :huh
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I would say no more than that super fast, no gun mossie we got...maybe 50 per plane
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Irondog, right now Arabian Knights (squad I am in) is flying Knights.
That's been the Arabian Knights modus operandi ever since they've been in AH. They have been only one of a very few squadrons that would routinely switch countries. Though their ranks have shrunken over the years but when they were at their height, they were an excellent example of a large squadron that "got it" and were never a problem like some of the more recent "mega-squadrons".
ack-ack
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I believe this is purely a matter of personal opinion. Why would a bomber pilot rack up more perks in fighters than bombers, when they mostly fly bombers? It doesn't make sense. If you bomb all the time, bomber perks will be no issue. Same goes with fighter perks; if you're in a fighter all the time, you'll have a plethora of fighter perks.
I think its a very big issue. i bomb and fight alot, i have aound 700 fighter perks and 300 bomber perks, i spend around a hundred fighter perks a day and make it back very quick if i die. i have not spent a bomber point. ever. bomber points are very hard to accumulate on my opinion. doing tactical stricks on the capital only yield me around 2 perks on an amazing run. if i shoot down a fighter, 4, great.
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I must be doing something wrong, I only have 3000 perks. :(
LOL and I thought I was doing it wrong... in almost 2 years I've managed to accumulate just shy of 500 bomber perkies, and when I realized I had tht many I almost upped a set of 234's just to auger them on purpose!
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I hope so...if not at least half of what the ME 262 usually is. Maybe 130-175 per plane.
Dumb..... whos going to climb these things to 30k all the time anyway. 2 sets of lancs can do the same damage and they are free. Unless the b29 is made of kevlar i see no real reason to over perk this plane. To solve the issue of players using it for a gv buster just code it so you cannot drop eggs unless your in the tube. This feature should be used on the 24's, 17's and lancs also.
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Fly a town smashing run or two in a Betty. You can really rack up the points fast in that one.
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Yes the B29 was VERY advanced, it had several 1st's.....the messiest was the lead computing gun laying analog computer system for the defensive armament. That system when it worked was incredible, but was very unreliable and a real pain to maintain due to very poor quality control during the manufacturing process, this system alone was responsible for long delivery delays. The gunners could control one or all the turrets at the same time (just like in game already) and rather than be in electrically heated flying suits the gunners were in a pressurized, heated cabin without the bulky fur lined heavy flying jackets or gloves. The concern for comfort of the crew started with the B-29s which also included a galley and a toilet of sorts.
Awesome to be in shirt sleeves at 30K where your skin would almost instantly freeze if exposed to outside ambient air temps and barometric pressure.
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1000 perks per unit.
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half the players here probably have about 10,000+ bomber perks here so its not gonna matter.
on my old account i had over 15k and i rarely bombed...
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I never agreed with perking bombers! :bhead
Perking large ord is the best way to go. For the amount of destruction a 1k, 2k, 4k nuke; it's easy mode.
Perking B-29 won't keep thousands to be in the air at once - perking ord will. Then you will see more Bostons, JU-88's and KI-67's in the air.
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on my old account i had over 15k and i rarely bombed...
Then how did you get 15k perks? I call BS
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10,000 perks per unit.
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Seeing the tendency of late .... there will be no perk on the B29.
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Seeing the tendency of late .... there will be no perk on the B29.
What tendency? The Mosquito Mk XVI was introduced as a perk plane. The only unit that was ever deperked was the Ta-152, while the F4U-1C, Firefly VC and M4A3 (76mm) were all introduced free and later perked.