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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Perrine on November 22, 2010, 02:18:12 PM
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US Topgear imo has better time trial track compared to UK version. I think it would be even better if it had elevation changes :rock
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The entire thing was a train(car?) wreck. UGH.
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I have to agree with Somerled, I was all hyped up about it but wasn't that impressed. The dialogue was just too flat and the parts where they tried to have some humor didn't pan out like it should have. I don't see it lasting long which is a shame.
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I have to agree with Somerled, I was all hyped up about it but wasn't that impressed. The dialogue was just too flat and the parts where they tried to have some humor didn't pan out like it should have. I don't see it lasting long which is a shame.
i completely agree
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US Topgear imo has better time trial track compared to UK version. I think it would be even better if it had elevation changes :rock
You watch Top Gear for the time trials? :huh
(http://www.ausmotive.com/images/topgear/12x08-Vietnam-01s.jpg)
I was going to give the US version a chance, but after seeing some of the commercials I couldn't bring myself to it. The presenters look extremely unentertaining and the dialogue in the clips seemed extremely unspontaneous and forced, like they were merely trying to (and failing to) mimic Clarkson, Hammond, and May.
Top Gear is an amazing show because of the presenters and the things they get to do with seemingly unlimited amounts of British taxpayer money. You're never going to get that any place else, and, you don't need to, honestly. Top Gear is more than good enough for me.
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The British eccentricities in language and culture make it worth watching... take that away and its just another car show.
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I have no plans to watch the US version. The UK version cannot be duplicated.
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Simply awful.
Bad jokes, lame challenges and no real commentary regarding the vehicles they ran. (Other than, "It's expensive and has nifty paint.")
Way to be lousy History channel. (This re-hash will soon be history.)
<S> Melvin
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I just saw the Australian version tonight, it was not as good as the original neither..
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The only people who I think that actualy liked the USA Top Gear are those without the mental tollerances for british accents and in general things that are culturaly different.... or to be best summed up; a bland remake for a blander audience.
Also, was there any doubt this was gonna happen? The History channel has put its hands on another non-History television program, standby for the flop.
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I don't see it ever becoming close to as entertaining as the UK version, but I'm going to wait for the season to finish before I pass a final judgment. I don't expect the first episode to be in the same league as the polished show that's been running since 2002. I do wish they wouldn't try to make a carbon copy of the UK version. They'll never succeed at that.
The snake race was neat but painfully obvious how scripted it was. The in-car camera kept shaking. Buzz Aldrin was a very interesting guest, but had a very boring interview. The most serious problem was that I didn't laugh once.
I hope it improves as the series progresses.
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Some people just cant let a good thing be.
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I wasted time watching it just to see the Lambo's, sorry I'm a sucker for Lamborghini's. Over 37 years on this planet still my favorite car.
Yeah the hosts suck, forced dialogue, no sense of history or interpersonal relationships between them. Yeah the format was dull, but you can say they totally ripped the camera shots and overall feel of the cinematography.
All that said, I feel bad saying this, I agree with OP a tiny bit. Their test track is much more interesting, and looks like more of a realistic challenge to a car's performance. Don't get me wrong, there's a point for BBC's track, and the history of it almost denies the chance of a redesign... Gambon's alone makes it something I want to watch. Anyway, the USA track is quite a good track, I'd like to see some of the BBC Top Gear cars go around it and see how they match up VS the BBC power lap times.
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On the up side, BBC America now reruns UK Top Gear episodes for 8 hours straight every Monday night, however last week it seemed that they only played two episodes back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
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i'll stick with the BBC version, it's stale with the techie/geekie show hosts puts ya to sleep
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I watched Top Gear tonight... well the British version anyways. Copycat shows never seem to be as good in America and IM FROM America. Now i cant wait for L&O U.K. with the wigs to start up :aok that might be good! :aok
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I just saw the Australian version tonight, it was not as good as the original neither..
I was quite excited when I heard about the Australian version but its "rubbish"
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I really just discovered Top gear about almost a year ago. It was great, I fell in love with it and had 13 seasons to rely upon to an orgy of entertainment. Cannot be topped. I could tell just from the US commercial that there was no chemistry with these presenters and were clearly missing the point of what makes the original so epic.
Now I've seen them all, and can't wait for the next seasons to air.
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US Topgear imo has better time trial track compared to UK version. I think it would be even better if it had elevation changes :rock
i never even watched it. trhere is no way in hell that any us company will match the british top gear. those guys are the middle aged british three stooges of the car world.
anything else is just junk.
and BTW they're playing ice hockey with suzuki swifts asi type this. :rofl :rofl
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You watch Top Gear for the time trials? :huh
(http://www.ausmotive.com/images/topgear/12x08-Vietnam-01s.jpg)
Exactly... I sometimes skip through the time trials and interview segments. It's all about the comedy for me.
Besides now that the Stig (Ben Collins) has outed himself and is gone, (still can't believe the BBC lost that law suit, I guess it's contract shmomtract in Britain) who knows if they'll even do time trials anymore.
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I watched Top Gear tonight... well the British version anyways. Copycat shows never seem to be as good in America and IM FROM America. Now i cant wait for L&O U.K. with the wigs to start up :aok that might be good! :aok
know what's funny about that?
law and order sucks(in my opinion).....and law and order uk sucks even worse(in my opinion).
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know what's funny about that?
law and order sucks(in my opinion).....and law and order uk sucks even worse(in my opinion).
and their judge wears funny costume :P
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Im tired of the UK version, which I used to enjoy. I certainly dont need a US version now.
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First of all you guys realize TG America is produced by the TG UK company, they have been trying to get an American version going here for a few years now.
However, I do agree that it felt flat and forced. The chemistry between the hosts isn't there. Maybe the chemistry will develop over time. Originally this version was supposed to have Adam Carrola as 1 of the host, I think he may have helped. I think a big part of it will be their ability to ad lib. Also how much criticism will they be aloud to dish out? They need advertising dollars that, at times, will come from the car companies loaning them cars to test. ( Porsche ) They were in love with all the cars they tested with the exception of the Suzuki. Come on, drive the Lamborghini then get out and tell me why I shouldn't spend part of my millions buying it.( hey, you never know when you might win the lotto. )
You can tell the American hosts are novices to top end cars they drool too much. They need an air of snobbery that says "that's fine but I know there is better so I'll hold onto my money. "
I know it was only one episode but, like cars, you never buy the first model year, you wait for the kinks to get worked out.
I'll probably watch it anyways.
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I only saw it in the background when I flipped to History for something else after Dirty Jobs was over (Mike Rowe is the coolest guy on the planet. They should get him to host it). I only really watched when they had Buzz Aldrin on.
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i say jay leno should host it
afterall, doesn't he own like 1000 cars?
afterall he knows how to make jokes :aok
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any way of watching it online? be interesting to check it out.
btw TG was rubbish when it first relaunched with Clarkson too, took them 2 or 3 series to get it right ...
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i say jay leno should host it
afterall, doesn't he own like 1000 cars?
afterall he knows how to make jokes :aok
I thought I read somewhere that they had tried to get him but he didn't bite. Adam Ferrara can be funny, I've seen it when he's been on Rescue Me but the show just seemed way too scripted and flat. I'll give it a little time and see how it pans out. I think the potential is there if they can just loosen up and have a good time and get a little arrogance about them. I think that is honestly one thing about the UK version like has been said before. They'll find everything wrong with a car that they can and it's great.
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i say jay leno should host it...
...afterall he knows how to make jokes :aok
No, he doesn't.
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Adam Carolla and a few others shot a Top Gear pilot around 5 years ago. The reviews said it was better than Top Gear Australia. From what I seen of it, it was truly entertaining, and it didn't try at all to emulate the original. The networks decided not to pick it up, and no more episodes were shot.
Now they give us this piece of crap...at least it won't make it to a 2nd season
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Adam Carolla and a few others shot a Top Gear pilot around 5 years ago. The reviews said it was better than Top Gear Australia. From what I seen of it, it was truly entertaining, and it didn't try at all to emulate the original. The networks decided not to pick it up, and no more episodes were shot.
Now they give us this piece of crap...at least it won't make it to a 2nd season
i've never thought adam corola was that funny to be honest........
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i've never thought adam corola was that funny to be honest........
Not on TV he isn't. On Loveline, he was genius. Here's a little taste...
"Has a trailer home ever burned down because a menorah tipped over?"
He isn't a comedian, callers on Loveline were always asking if he would do standup or tv, he always said he wasn't good at reciting jokes he wrote months ago, and believed his humor was better off the cuff.
Which is why he has stuck to radio all these years.
However, he is a complete gear head, he doesn't just own a ton of nice cars, he does his own work. Listen to his other podcast, the one dedicated to Cars. He was the perfect American host.
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If you ask me (which you didn't but I'm going to give it anyways !!) They are trying to act too much like Topgear UK.
You can't beat the original !! WTG UK
:rock
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Get Eddy Griffin to test the cars :t Now that may be entertaining.
(http://www.crashstuff.com/wp-content/gallery/ferrari-enzo-crash-pictures/eddie_griffin%20-%20enzo.jpg)
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They are trying to act too much like Topgear UK.
In case you missed it earlier, the show is produced by Top Gear UK. There's a reason it looks like the original. The set is a perfect duplicate. They are trying to use the same formula with different hosts. If you've never seen the original, it doesn't look too bad. If you have seen the original, then you're going to pick it apart comparing the two. It will never be as good as Top Gear UK.
The chemistry between the guys certainly isn't there yet, but I'll give them a season to mesh. Rutledge Wood has cred when it comes to fast cars even if he doesn't look like it. He played the clown on SPEED broadcasts for several years. Adam Ferrara is hilarious doing stand-up. Tanner Foust I really don't know much about, but he has a racing background and seems comfortable in front of the camera.
What's missing is a smug wordsmith like Clarkson. Carolla would have been great. They need someone like Anthony Bourdain to fill that role. I don't see any of these guys pulling that off.
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In case you missed it earlier, the show is produced by Top Gear UK. There's a reason it looks like the original. The set is a perfect duplicate. They are trying to use the same formula with different hosts. If you've never seen the original, it doesn't look too bad. If you have seen the original, then you're going to pick it apart comparing the two. It will never be as good as Top Gear UK.
The chemistry between the guys certainly isn't there yet, but I'll give them a season to mesh. Rutledge Wood has cred when it comes to fast cars even if he doesn't look like it. He played the clown on SPEED broadcasts for several years. Adam Ferrara is hilarious doing stand-up. Tanner Foust I really don't know much about, but he has a racing background and seems comfortable in front of the camera.
What's missing is a smug wordsmith like Clarkson. Carolla would have been great. They need someone like Anthony Bourdain to fill that role. I don't see any of these guys pulling that off.
I have seen the original, and I did miss the post where they are being produced by the UK Bunch!
Thank you for mending my rough and rotten ways and for pointing out that i'm stupid.
On a more jolly note , I think that you may be right about another person , but Adam Corolla is not the one . Yes he is funny , but not a car man .
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In case you missed it earlier, the show is produced by Top Gear UK. There's a reason it looks like the original. The set is a perfect duplicate. They are trying to use the same formula with different hosts. If you've never seen the original, it doesn't look too bad. If you have seen the original, then you're going to pick it apart comparing the two. It will never be as good as Top Gear UK.
The chemistry between the guys certainly isn't there yet, but I'll give them a season to mesh. Rutledge Wood has cred when it comes to fast cars even if he doesn't look like it. He played the clown on SPEED broadcasts for several years. Adam Ferrara is hilarious doing stand-up. Tanner Foust I really don't know much about, but he has a racing background and seems comfortable in front of the camera.
What's missing is a smug wordsmith like Clarkson. Carolla would have been great. They need someone like Anthony Bourdain to fill that role. I don't see any of these guys pulling that off.
Anthony Bourdain you say... hmm. That would be interesting and I agree with the word smithing ider. But I'm still concerned with the free reign any word smithy would have. The BBC is a well funded version of our PBS, better and bigger. The majority of our broadcast-network and cable/satellite-network programing is funded through advertisement. Advertisers tend to try to stick with the demographics that would buy their products. So if you have a car show you get car related ads, cooking show... cooking product ads, so on and so forth. If Chevy is trying to sell you a new Corvette in an ad and then Top Gear makes the Chevy look terrible... boink!! money gone. We would need a Consumer Reports or PBS version that is funded with donations by private individuals or they need to find different advertisers that still need to reach the same target audience but are not selling car related products.
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In case you missed it earlier, the show is produced by Top Gear UK. There's a reason it looks like the original. The set is a perfect duplicate. They are trying to use the same formula with different hosts. If you've never seen the original, it doesn't look too bad. If you have seen the original, then you're going to pick it apart comparing the two. It will never be as good as Top Gear UK.
The chemistry between the guys certainly isn't there yet, but I'll give them a season to mesh. Rutledge Wood has cred when it comes to fast cars even if he doesn't look like it. He played the clown on SPEED broadcasts for several years. Adam Ferrara is hilarious doing stand-up. Tanner Foust I really don't know much about, but he has a racing background and seems comfortable in front of the camera.
What's missing is a smug wordsmith like Clarkson. Carolla would have been great. They need someone like Anthony Bourdain to fill that role. I don't see any of these guys pulling that off.
I can't remember who the other two original hosts were, but Ferrara may of been in it with Carolla. After the original network turned down the pilot, Carolla had the whole morning show kicking up, and working on his movie The Hammer.
I can't think of a better lead host for Top Gear US.
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Anthony Bourdain you say... hmm. That would be interesting and I agree with the word smithing ider. But I'm still concerned with the free reign any word smithy would have. The BBC is a well funded version of our PBS, better and bigger. The majority of our broadcast-network and cable/satellite-network programing is funded through advertisement. Advertisers tend to try to stick with the demographics that would buy their products. So if you have a car show you get car related ads, cooking show... cooking product ads, so on and so forth. If Chevy is trying to sell you a new Corvette in an ad and then Top Gear makes the Chevy look terrible... boink!! money gone. We would need a Consumer Reports or PBS version that is funded with donations by private individuals or they need to find different advertisers that still need to reach the same target audience but are not selling car related products.
I said the same thing on another board. The biting criticism the UK version does will not bid well with US advertisers, but it's a critical part of the show. It looks like they will tread lightly for a few episodes and see if the show is a success.
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In case you missed it earlier, the show is produced by Top Gear UK.
Wikipedia lists the production of Top Gear America as a cooperation between BBC Worldwide and an American company called Reveille Productions (who also apparently produced the US version of the Office and a few other British imports).
I'd imagine that the BBC doesn't have all that much clout in the production of Top Gear America.
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Watched the second episode. Meh. I think I like Tanner Foust the best of the 3. He seems more genuine, and the fact that he is a much better driver doesn't hurt. I think he is the only one from the first American attempt at Top Gear.
I have to keep reminding myself that the current format of Top Gear BBC wasn't completely polished. The original presenters were Jason Dawe, Richard Hammond, and Jeremy Clarkson. James May replaced Dawe in the next series. And they have received a lot of criticism over the years for becoming too predictable and having forced humor.
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Top Gear UK has 15 seasons since 2002. That's a lot of 'lessons learned' there. I think one would be plain stupid not to use that experience...unfortunately, that's exactly what those idiots did. I re-watched first episode of reason 1 of UK Top Gear and quality and entertainment shined brightly. US Top Gear felt like it was made by someone that didn't wanted to make it; hosts didn't wanted to be there, camera man didn't wanted to be there and nor audience after first 5 minutes of the show. Failure. Not epic failure, but failure never the less.