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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: warhed on November 30, 2010, 05:43:48 PM
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From another thread, posted by Imowface
I dont understand why you guys think that Russia is any different then the united states nowdays on how we deal with stuff like this, there is no more KGB and we dont just kill anyone who gets in our way, this isnt the cold war, and we arnt communist anymore, we have the FSB now, which is more like the CIA, but they dont go around and make people who oppose the government "disapear"
I laughed at this post, are you living in Russia, or do you just have Russian family? My grandparent's fled communism and came to the U.S. I still have family in Russia to this day. We have not had contact since the families split apart however.
Anyway, Russia has a long track record of killing or making disappear political opponents, journalists have been and still are prime targets. For a simple list of those done in, here's a good list to start researching: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia)
Not only have they done this frequently in the past 20 years, and are still committing it. Russia is considered one of the most dangerous places for journalists STILL to this day.
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I moved to canada from russia and still go back and visit my family every year, and the way people were talking about russia in that thread, made it seem like the russian government is murderous, may I ask how you know who the prim targets are for the russian government? when was the last time you have been to russia? have you ever been to russia or talked to anyone who lives there?
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imowface: ask around if any 18-25 russian girl wants to marry ;)
we of this forum will love you for it.
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This won't end well.
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Good way to piss off skuzzy after he just locked the same topic. :aok
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I am staying out of this thread, I have said my peice, and Tac, check out russianwomen.ca or if you like Ukraine, ukrainiansweethearts.com :aok
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I moved to canada from russia and still go back and visit my family every year, and the way people were talking about russia in that thread, made it seem like the russian government is murderous, may I ask how you know who the prim targets are for the russian government? when was the last time you have been to russia? have you ever been to russia or talked to anyone who lives there?
Yes I have been there, yes I have talked to people who live there, yes I have family that still lives there. Considering the fact they have poisoned and murdered journalists, politicians, and civilians, yes they are murderous. There are plenty of sources to find the names of those "taken care of." The link I provided is just such a list. Also you can read about Russian influence on Ukraine and Georgia in the last 10 years for more examples.
Or not...
Anyway, this was worth a hit by the ban stick.
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I am staying out of this thread, I have said my peice, and Tac, check out russianwomen.ca or if you like Ukraine, ukrainiansweethearts.com :aok
i dont know whats creepier.. that you answered that or that im checking the links out...
as for skuzzy.. meh, I think the above links are keeping him busy too :devil :devil
edit: :headscratch: :headscratch: :huh :bolt:
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i dont know whats creepier.. that you answered that or that im checking the links out...
as for skuzzy.. meh, I think the above links are keeping him busy too :devil :devil
edit: :headscratch: :headscratch: :huh :bolt:
Same here :bolt:
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I am staying out of this thread, I have said my peice, and Tac, check out russianwomen.ca or if you like Ukraine, ukrainiansweethearts.com :aok
And yet, you responded with adding two web sites. :rofl
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Yes I have been there, yes I have talked to people who live there, yes I have family that still lives there. Considering the fact they have poisoned and murdered journalists, politicians, and civilians, yes they are murderous. There are plenty of sources to find the names of those "taken care of." The link I provided is just such a list. Also you can read about Russian influence on Ukraine and Georgia in the last 10 years for more examples.
Or not...
Anyway, this was worth a hit by the ban stick.
the link you provided didnt say the government was killing all those journalists, just stop talking and making yourself look like an idiot, why do you want to pick fights on the internet anyways? are you bored? check out the links I posted
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i dont know whats creepier.. that you answered that or that im checking the links out...
as for skuzzy.. meh, I think the above links are keeping him busy too :devil :devil
edit: :headscratch: :headscratch: :huh :bolt:
:rofl :noid
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the link you provided didnt say the government was killing all those journalists, just stop talking and making yourself look like an idiot, why do you want to pick fights on the internet anyways? are you bored? check out the links I posted
Heh, yes, it did.
Here's a non journalist killed by the Russian Government: Alexander Litvinenko. He was an ex-agent who fled Russia for asylum in the UK. He died in 2006 of radiation poisonining. After an investigation by the British government, they had proof of exactly who did it and when. The name of that man is publically known, do the research yourself. Deny away :aok
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I moved to canada from russia and still go back and visit my family every year, and the way people were talking about russia in that thread, made it seem like the russian government is murderous, may I ask how you know who the prim targets are for the russian government? when was the last time you have been to russia? have you ever been to russia or talked to anyone who lives there?
Every time I've talked to an actual Russian on the internet, they paint a much darker picture of their gov't than was put forward in that thread. I was actually chuckling as I read your posts, thinking about what they'd have to say if they were as well, especially since you're a Canadian.
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Someday he'll realize his defending of a Russian gov't proven to eliminate political foes is hurting Russia, not helping it. I would love to go back again someday, but due to circumstances in my family, it's just not safe. When I hear people claiming the Russian gov't is benign, it frustrates me that anyone could either be that blind, or stubborn enough to defend a gov't who does such things.
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Someday he'll realize his defending of a Russian gov't proven to eliminate political foes is hurting Russia, not helping it.
I don't know about that, while it's become fairly totalitarian and corrupt, it would seem that, both in the opinions of Russians and from the outside looking in, Russia's a much better place than it was in the 90's, at least.
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I don't know about that, while it's become fairly totalitarian and corrupt, it would seem that, both in the opinions of Russians and from the outside looking in, Russia's a much better place than it was in the 90's, at least.
Tell that to the hundreds of journalists and political opponents gone missing or discovered dead in the last 10 years.
No doubt it has improved, but so has China in the same regard. That's not saying much
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Tell that to the hundreds of journalists and reporters gone missing or discovered dead in the last 10 years.
No doubt it has improved, but so has China in the same regard. That's not saying much
I don't mean for journalists, but for the people as a whole. Yeah, freedom of speech isn't very widely available, but at least the country's not ruled by organized crime and capitalists so much any more.
My 9th grade social studies teacher would always tell his students of the time he was in Russia in the early 90's, and he was kidnapped and robbed by a group of Russian gangsters in Moscow. The country is much safer today, at the cost of some freedoms.
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The Anatomy of Injustice was a report that detailed and documented 17 deaths of journalists alone since 2000. It is available in both Russian and English to read.
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I don't mean for journalists, but for the people as a whole. Yeah, freedom of speech isn't very widely available, but at least the country's not ruled by organized crime and capitalists so much any more.
As long you mean pure blooded Russians by "people as a whole." Russians who moved from borderlands into the cities are in more of a dangerous situation than ever before. Mostly because of the rise of Nazi political parties, who actually have a voice in the government. There have been a few excellent documentaries on this rise of right wing violence.
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As long you mean pure blooded Russians by "people as a whole." Russians who moved from borderlands into the cities are in more of a dangerous situation than ever before. Mostly because of the rise of Nazi political parties, who actually have a voice in the government. There have been a few excellent documentaries on this rise of right wing violence.
Nationalism is on the rise throughout Europe, though.
Russia is surely a much more conservative society than you see throughout the rest of the developed world it pretty much always has been, although those facets were surely suppressed in the USSR, and yeah, racial minorities, women, and, in particular, homosexuals, are much worse off than they are elsewhere.
I'm just saying that 'democratic' Russia is better off than it was under Yeltsin and the mob rule directly following the fall of communism. There's still rampant corruption and suppression of speech (god forbid you say anything bad about Putin).
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:rofl :rofl
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Nationalism is on the rise throughout Europe, though.
Russia is surely a much more conservative society than you see throughout the rest of the developed world it pretty much always has been, although those facets were surely suppressed in the USSR, and yeah, racial minorities, women, and, in particular, homosexuals, are much worse off than they are elsewhere.
I'm just saying that 'democratic' Russia is better off than it was under Yeltsin and the mob rule directly following the fall of communism. There's still rampant corruption and suppression of speech (god forbid you say anything bad about Putin).
Agreed. Still lots of room for drastic improvement as far as human rights are concerned. But they have seemed to reach a brick wall as far as that goes. I imagine it's as good as it can get.
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Nationalism is on the rise throughout Europe, though.
Russia is surely a much more conservative society than you see throughout the rest of the developed world it pretty much always has been, although those facets were surely suppressed in the USSR, and yeah, racial minorities, women, and, in particular, homosexuals, are much worse off than they are elsewhere.
I'm just saying that 'democratic' Russia is better off than it was under Yeltsin and the mob rule directly following the fall of communism. There's still rampant corruption and suppression of speech (god forbid you say anything bad about Putin).
after taking some time to cool down, I am sorry for my outbursts, I come from Voronezh, its in the south of Russia, yes there is alot of violence in the city, I am close with my grandparents (who live in St. Petersburg now) I have always listened to them without question, my grandparents were/are both communists, they belived in the government, so I have been tought to do the same, I have really never talked about this subject with anyone before, so you may be able to forgive me for blindly defending the government if you have ever heard of Voronezh, you may know that has high unelmployment, and there are lots of unwealthy people there, so naturaly, a large number of people who still live there vote for left wing political partys as I said, this is all what I have been told for most of my life.
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after taking some time to cool down, I am sorry for my outbursts, I come from Voronezh, its in the south of Russia, yes there is alot of violence in the city, I am close with my grandparents (who live in St. Petersburg now) I have always listened to them without question, my grandparents were/are both communists, they belived in the government, so I have been tought to do the same, I have really never talked about this subject with anyone before, so you may be able to forgive me for blindly defending the government if you have ever heard of Voronezh, you may know that has high unelmployment, and there are lots of unwealthy people there, so naturaly, a large number of people who still live there vote for left wing political partys as I said, this is all what I have been told for most of my life.
I have family and friends who will sit and defend everything Russia does, yet fled the country because of religious and/or political persecution. Russians are a very proud people, to a fault sometimes. Russians living outside of Russia can help the situation by being open and honest about their former homelands, in hopes with enough pressure the government will be forced to end the paranoid actions that cause so much pain.
Living near Detroit, with it's high Arab population, as someone with Russian blood and a Russian name, I have been asked to leave restaurants and other places of business before. While it irks me to have such things happened to me as I am 100% American, I also understand why it happens.
I fully believe the Russian people are a strong, beautiful people with rich and diverse culture. The government on the other hand has remained the same elitist plutocracy it has been for the last 100 years.
I love Russia, and have been studying the Transcaucasus for years, but that doesn't mean I have to like their government.
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i dont know whats creepier.. that you answered that or that im checking the links out...
Out of pure curiosity, I had to check them too, lol.
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We need to unban Boroda, but he wouldn't participate in argument between 14 year olds.
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Living near Detroit, with it's high Arab population, as someone with Russian blood and a Russian name, I have been asked to leave restaurants and other places of business before. While it irks me to have such things happened to me as I am 100% American, I also understand why it happens.
You do realize all you need to do is film them doing that to you in order to sue their butts off right? Easy moneh right there bubba... dont let the cash cow get away :P
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We need to unban Boroda, but he wouldn't participate in argument between 14 year olds.
Braoda has recently started posting at FW again, he wants people to get drunk with him on skype. Might be a good way to carry on this discussion.
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Communists?
Ass robbing?
This thread is doomed.
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