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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oakranger on December 01, 2010, 10:40:43 PM
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Camouflage vehicles come out of the woodwork
The local radio station plays the Thirty Point Buck song over and over again.
The neighbor who you hear from only once a year calls to say they’re going to hunt in that same spot again—permission is presumed just because you gave it last year
You see trucks parked in lots of out of the way places, but no teenagers are making out inside
Blaze orange is the must have color
You don't see the "King of the Forrest" where he's been every morning for the past 2 months.
Good hunting, and let’s be careful out there. I would love to know what other signs of the season you've seen this week.
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Ads for game meat preparation/preservation, signs going up for taxidermy and homemade sausage, etc.
"We butcher wild hogs" and "deer meat sausage here"
:aok
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when a 4 point is standing on my lawn right now eatting what's left of my apples in the compost pile, deer seasons over here but i think with a good chuck norris roundhouse i can take him out quietly :devil
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Local coffee shop spells like deer piss at 5am
"Good morning" is replaced by "Gitchadeer yet?"
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Screw you guys. :neener:
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Screw you guys. :neener:
wow!
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A bunch of idiots in orange hats, trying to apparently blend in with grass they are nowhere near, stand in the middle of the road staring into their truck bed for hours on end at stupid hours while they lose their dogs to the "on my property, my dog now" law. :P
I have an honest question for hunters, is sitting around for hours on end while a dog you abuse "flushes out" a deer really "fun"? People aren't even hunting then, the dog is! "hunt: the pursuit [following in order to overtake or capture] and killing or capture of wild animals regarded as a sport "
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Must say i agree with you, using dogs to hunt deer seems wrong. With that said though, its a cultural thing that has probably been going on for years in some states. Is it right? IMHO no it isnt, but what is even more wrong is stepping on someones right to do it. I equate it to the show on TV where they hunt gators, would i do it, No, do they have the right to do it, absolutley.
( thats not directed at u 170, just an opinion on the subject :salute)
Im an avid hunter, and here in PA you cant use dogs to hunt deer.
Regarding the abusing the dogs part, im sure most if not all of those dogs live better, eat better and are treated better than most people. I had a German Shorthair that i used for hunting game birds, that dog lived like a king around here.
Love the post Oakranger, made me laugh reading it :lol
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In PA, a hunter was shot and killed first day of the season. He had shot a buck, dragged it some 300 feet.
He called home to ask a son to come and help him with the deer.
A short time later he was found with his orange vest at his side, his rifle several yards away leaning against a tree.
Ruled a Homocide.
A lot of the hunters are overzealous, unsafe, and plain stupid when it comes to taking a shot.
<S> Oz
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In PA, a hunter was shot and killed first day of the season. He had shot a buck, dragged it some 300 feet.
He called home to ask a son to come and help him with the deer.
A short time later he was found with his orange vest at his side, his rifle several yards away leaning against a tree.
Ruled a Homocide.
A lot of the hunters are overzealous, unsafe, and plain stupid when it comes to taking a shot.
<S> Oz
Yep, really sad, this happened in Richland Township (Quakertown) I live about 15mins from where it happened. I use to hunt that same farm as a kid, but havent in about 15 or 20+years. Its being investigated as a homicide. Just really sad, and a bit to close to home
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You must be near Philly too. Saw it on Ch.6
Cecily Tynan- Yum :devil
<S> Oz
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You must be near Philly too. Saw it on Ch.6
Cecily Tynan- Yum :devil
<S> Oz
:rofl agree 100%
Yea i grew up on Lake Nockamixon (Haycock twp) in Quakertown, about an hr N of Phila.
I live about 15mins up the road now in Center Valley.
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wow!
Sorry Oak, that was meant in a very light-hearted way. You see, I spent the majority of yesterday at my buddy Doug's camp and was a bit inebriated by the time I got home last night.
(2 does, 4 fawns, 38 turkeys, 0 bucks)
I hate the turdy point buck song. I also can't stand Fred Bear. When I used to bartend, all the trolls would come up for hunting season and I'd have to listen to Fred Bear on the box all night.
I've never known anybody that hunts deer with dogs. I believe that it's illegal in most, if not all, areas in the US.
We do have alot of guys around here that hunt bear with dogs and I really don't care for that. I see no honor in shooting an animal out of a tree.
Firearm deer season was safe up here, we did lose a few guys to natural causes though. :salute to them.
Stay safe and enjoy your hunt fellas.
<S> Melvin
I'll keep ya posted from the UP. Ice fishin next week. (hopefully)
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I'll keep ya posted from the UP. Ice fishin next week. (hopefully)
Good Luck, love to see pics. "True" icefishing is something ive never done, what i mean by True is drive the truck out on the lake, set up the shelter, drill the hole, set the tip ups and wait. It doesnt get cold enough here to risk running my Silverado out on the lake (picture instant submarine, and my face looking something like this :confused: :O :cry) :lol
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I have an honest question for hunters, is sitting around for hours on end while a dog you abuse "flushes out" a deer really "fun"? People aren't even hunting then, the dog is! "hunt: the pursuit [following in order to overtake or capture] and killing or capture of wild animals regarded as a sport "
I must say. I never heard of anybody that uses dogs to flush out deer.
Sorry Oak, that was meant in a very light-hearted way. You see, I spent the majority of yesterday at my buddy Doug's camp and was a bit inebriated by the time I got home last night.
(2 does, 4 fawns, 38 turkeys, 0 bucks)
I hate the turdy point buck song. I also can't stand Fred Bear. When I used to bartend, all the trolls would come up for hunting season and I'd have to listen to Fred Bear on the box all night.
I've never known anybody that hunts deer with dogs. I believe that it's illegal in most, if not all, areas in the US.
We do have alot of guys around here that hunt bear with dogs and I really don't care for that. I see no honor in shooting an animal out of a tree.
Firearm deer season was safe up here, we did lose a few guys to natural causes though. :salute to them.
Stay safe and enjoy your hunt fellas.
<S> Melvin
I'll keep ya posted from the UP. Ice fishin next week. (hopefully)
It is cool.
Icefishing, i seen that is becoming more technical to do with special poles, equipment and gadgets.
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"Hunting" with dogs is not illegal in most areas of the US; in fact it is the way that nearly wiped out the Whitetail population in the Southeastern US in the early half of the 1900's. However it is not the way that I hunt and I regularly turn down opportunities to go sit "on stand" as its called while deer are flushed/herded towards the hunters by the dogs. However where I stalk hunt I don't mind popping a cap in a deer that runs through my land with dogs chasing it; just because I can take away from those hunters when it runs onto my land.
Most if not all of the local hunters around my land do not use dogs now. The ones that do are the guys who come in from out of state or from the northern part of Alabama. We tend to make them unwelcome since they don't add anything to the experience in the area and are only there to kill any and all deer without regard for trying to do things to keep the population in balance and healthy.
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I must say. I never heard of anybody that uses dogs to flush out deer.
Never been to NC then I take it? Happens every year. It may be that I simply don't like hunting, but I'm glad to be leaving this area soon. It's not that I hate hunters (some great people hunt), I hate mentality of hunters around here (and those that share it).
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Never been to NC then I take it? Happens every year. It may be that I simply don't like hunting, but I'm glad to be leaving this area soon. It's not that I hate hunters (some great people hunt), I hate mentality of hunters around here (and those that share it).
That bolded statement there is why the people around my parents here in central Alabama don't like or help the outsiders that come in to hunt in the area and start leasing/buying up all the property around the area.
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:weeCzuQfUHj2TM:http://m1.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/28107_deerseason.jpg&t=1)
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Oh...and you forgot:
"When every deer hunter in Wisconsin that bagged one leaves the blood stain on the roof or hood of his car or truck all Winter as a status symbol."
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our (NZ) hunting season goes from Jan 1 til Dec 31... :devil
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Last week of deer season here. It closes for a week or two Sunday night then opens back up for two weeks.
While we're on the topic of deer hunting, someone give me their opinion on this question:
In Tennessee, we are not allowed to kill antlerless deer except during archery (early season), Muzzleloader (pre-rut), and the second open Rifle Season (late/post-rut). [Exceptions: Special hunts, tags, and license]. Would it not make more sense to make the final rifle season that occurs in late December/early January a "buck only" season? What's the point of killing a doe that late in the season and taking the risk of killing a deer that might have been bred?
In my opinion, the only time you should be able to kill does until the opening day of Rifle season (which is always the Saturday before Thanksgiving and runs for two weeks [Prime time of the rut here in TN], then closes for a week, then reopens). What are your opinions?
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Banshee7
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Never been to NC then I take it? Happens every year. It may be that I simply don't like hunting, but I'm glad to be leaving this area soon. It's not that I hate hunters (some great people hunt), I hate mentality of hunters around here (and those that share it).
How do they use dogs to flush them out? You do mean for deer, right.
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Last week of deer season here. It closes for a week or two Sunday night then opens back up for two weeks.
While we're on the topic of deer hunting, someone give me their opinion on this question:
In Tennessee, we are not allowed to kill antlerless deer except during archery (early season), Muzzleloader (pre-rut), and the second open Rifle Season (late/post-rut). [Exceptions: Special hunts, tags, and license]. Would it not make more sense to make the final rifle season that occurs in late December/early January a "buck only" season? What's the point of killing a doe that late in the season and taking the risk of killing a deer that might have been bred?
Banshee
Around here by January, many deer have already dropped their antlers (PA) I think with that being the case, Buck/Doe ID would be tough. I never saw much sence in the late season myself, have to agree with you Banshee, just seems stupid. Our season (Rifle)starts the first monday after Tgiving, and seems to work out well, but its well after thr rut, which around here seems to be mid to late Oct
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Last week of deer season here. It closes for a week or two Sunday night then opens back up for two weeks.
While we're on the topic of deer hunting, someone give me their opinion on this question:
In Tennessee, we are not allowed to kill antlerless deer except during archery (early season), Muzzleloader (pre-rut), and the second open Rifle Season (late/post-rut). [Exceptions: Special hunts, tags, and license]. Would it not make more sense to make the final rifle season that occurs in late December/early January a "buck only" season? What's the point of killing a doe that late in the season and taking the risk of killing a deer that might have been bred?
In my opinion, the only time you should be able to kill does until the opening day of Rifle season (which is always the Saturday before Thanksgiving and runs for two weeks [Prime time of the rut here in TN], then closes for a week, then reopens). What are your opinions?
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Banshee7
I don't like that last part post rut...but in the defense of the Fish and Wildlife people I think their biologists probably do a good job of knowing and monitoring the hunts and the numbers.
Here in Alabama primitive weapon (bow, muzzle loader, spear, etc...) season for deer opens up on Oct 15 and goes till Jan 31. Rifle and Shotgun hunting opens up on Nov 15 and goes until Jan 31.
Here is an excerpt from the rules for Alabama which can be found in this pdf document http://www.outdooralabama.com/images/file/2010-11%20S&BL%20final%20as%20appr%20by%20CAB%20web%20version.pdf
DEER
ANTLERED BUCKS – bare antlers visible above natural hairline – Statewide – one a day. WHITE-TAILED BUCK LIMIT – three during all combined seasons. One of the three must have at least 4 antler points 1” or longer on one antler (except for Barbour County). A point is an antler projection of at least one inch in length from base to tip. Main beam tip shall be counted as a point regardless of length. BARBOUR COUNTY ANTLER RESTRICTION –white-tailed deer bucks must have a minimum of three points on one side, (except on the statewide special youth deer hunting date).
UNANTLERED DEER (except spotted fawns) – During the Unantlered Deer Gun, Special Muzzleloader, Bow and Arrow, Spear, and Special Youth (under 16) Seasons, two deer per day – only one of which may be an antlered buck (two unantlered deer; or, one unantlered deer and one antlered deer).
SPECIAL YOUTH (UNDER 16) DEER HUNTING– Statewide, (includes all Privately Owned and Leased Lands and Open Permit – Public Lands (except Wildlife Management Areas) on November 12-15. Dog hunting in those counties or parts of counties where and how it is allowed during the regular dog deer hunting season. Same legal arms and ammunition apply as in Unantlered Deer season, in accordance with Rule 220-2-.119. See the 2010-11 Wildlife Management Area Schedule for youth deer hunting dates and other information.
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Camouflage vehicles come out of the woodwork
The local radio station plays the Thirty Point Buck song over and over again.
The neighbor who you hear from only once a year calls to say they’re going to hunt in that same spot again—permission is presumed just because you gave it last year
You see trucks parked in lots of out of the way places, but no teenagers are making out inside
Blaze orange is the must have color
You don't see the "King of the Forrest" where he's been every morning for the past 2 months.
Good hunting, and let’s be careful out there. I would love to know what other signs of the season you've seen this week.
Don't forget the red neck game wardens you see hiding behind evey tree . Let me check you gun son , quote : your not my father and you just checked my gun yesterday and yeah those are my dog's , squeak ! Setting on my sack of corn ...Let me add , when they take my dog's I will quit hunting .
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Yep, really sad, this happened in Richland Township (Quakertown) I live about 15mins from where it happened. I use to hunt that same farm as a kid, but havent in about 15 or 20+years. Its being investigated as a homicide. Just really sad, and a bit to close to home
Yes this was very close to home so close that I was the Paramedic on scene for this Call and I feel bad for the family. Not a good start to anyones week for work.
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Yes this was very close to home so close that I was the Paramedic on scene for this Call and I feel bad for the family. Not a good start to anyones week for work.
I was gonna ask you about that last night when were were chatting during FSO, sorry to hear man....tough job you got there. :salute
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I was gonna ask you about that last night when were were chatting during FSO, sorry to hear man....tough job you got there. :salute
That's got to be bad , here 2 year's ago the women that ruin's the store down the road killed a nice buck and when see went to load it on the 4 wheeler her 30-06 went off and blue here heart out . Dead on the spot . I preach safety to all my hunter's . Not the first time to see this happen .
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and the sad thing is that this is becoming more frequent with Hunter Related shootings. Just prior to the season starting there was a Game Warden shot and killed out in the Pittsburgh Area for doing his Job. Busted a Slob Poacher and then the Slob turned around and killed him. First time in 15 years I have not gone out in the woods to hunt, and the sad thing is I don't miss it. I used to be an avid archer and always looked forward to Archery season. who knows maybe when my 4 year old gets to mentor Age I may get back into but til then he is having fun driving my tanks here in the game the Same way his Great-Grandfather did for Our country during WW2.
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We just had a guy have his deer stolen. Shot it, filled his tag and went to get his son to help drag it out of the woods and when he got back to were the deer was and someone had dragged it out of the woods and drove off.
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Father-in-law got two 8 pointers out at the farm.
Buddy got a 5 pointer and a doe.
Buddy got a doe.
Buddy was tracking a 15 (he thinks) pointer.
Buddy got a 7 pointer.
Melvin got a buzz.
This is the local tally that I can remember for firearm deer season. Bow season is upon us now, but I won't hunt with one as my skill level isn't high enough.
Went to camp today to shut the water off. Plenty of ice for fishing. Gonna try and roust up the gang for a Ice Fishin Derby this week or next.
:salute
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I thought that you couldn't shoot does- are these accidental shootings or is there something that I'm missing?
-Penguin
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I thought that you couldn't shoot does- are these accidental shootings or is there something that I'm missing?
-Penguin
Most states you can shoot does. Some are seprate season antlered season first then antlerless. In PA in different zones its buck or doe but shotgun only. You can only take 1 antlered deer regardless of the season ( archery,muzzle,rifle/shotgun) but in the shotgun zone, as long as you have the tags you can shoot multiple does.
I was confused about the 2 8pointers by one person, although, if he owns the farm and its crop damages then its possible. ( thats the only way in PA that you can take 2 antlered deer in a season )
That being said im not sure about the laws in his state, they seem to be different everywhere
Good luck in the fishing derby....show em whos who :aok
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Most states you can shoot does. Some are seprate season antlered season first then antlerless. In PA in different zones its buck or doe but shotgun only. You can only take 1 antlered deer regardless of the season ( archery,muzzle,rifle/shotgun) but in the shotgun zone, as long as you have the tags you can shoot multiple does.
I was confused about the 2 8pointers by one person, although, if he owns the farm and its crop damages then its possible. ( thats the only way in PA that you can take 2 antlered deer in a season )
That being said im not sure about the laws in his state, they seem to be different everywhere
One other question, stopping power.
I've read that a weapon needs to have a certain amount of stopping power in order to be used in hunting (so as not to torture the animal by slowly tearing it apart), but how do the game wardens know if you shot the deer with your .308 or your .22? Can you only take one weapon to hunt with?
-Penguin
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If you're caught out with deer hunting gear, license, etc., and a gun that is not legal to hunt with, then you will face whatever penalties that state has set up for that offense. You don't even have to be caught shooting anything, just being out in the season with what appears to be hunting gear is enough to get nailed.
In some states, you can hunt deer with .223 but pretty much nothing smaller. There are a ton of other rules which is why even if someone is exempt from the hunter safety course in a particular state, they probably ought to attend a course anyhow just to brush up on the applicable laws.
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You can get a "combo" tag here which allows you to shoot 1 buck and one doe, or 2 bucks. The second buck must have 3 points on one side. Hence the two 8 pointers.
Personally, I won't lift my rifle if I don't see 8 points or more. Maybe this is why I don't drag one home every year.
It is illegal here to hunt with a .22 or smaller (rimfire). It is legal to hunt with .223 etc. I hunt with a .30-06.
Edit:Gotta track Brandon down and see if he smacked that 15 pointer.
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One other question, stopping power.
I've read that a weapon needs to have a certain amount of stopping power in order to be used in hunting (so as not to torture the animal by slowly tearing it apart), but how do the game wardens know if you shot the deer with your .308 or your .22? Can you only take one weapon to hunt with?
-Penguin
No .22s here. Trust me when i say they will know. I use an arrangement of guns Rifle zone either my .308 or my .270 PA law is manual operated only, no semi autos. In the shotgun zone i use a 12ga (Benelli M1 )
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I've got too many guns.
I used a Remington 700 .300 Mag all of last year. This year, after deciding the .300 Mag was a little overkill, I went back to using my Springfield 1903 .30-06. My grandfather bought the Springfield in the 60s...everything was original on it until he cut the barrel down a few inches and put a Monte Carlo stock and a scope on it.
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303. Lee Enfield
A Jeep
and a group of Kangaroo's
Hunting, Australian style
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303. Lee Enfield
A Jeep
and a group of Kangaroo's
Hunting, Australian style
No Fosters?? :D