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Title: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Pand on December 24, 2010, 04:23:04 AM
I was just reviewing some scoring on the HTC website... and looking at my kills, it says 8 of my 'kills' did not count towards rank.

Total Kills    342
Total Kills towards Rank    334
Total Kills not counted towards Rank    8

What are the possible situations where kills do not count towards rank? (Would like to avoid guesses and jokes please)
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 24, 2010, 04:25:27 AM
I'm not 100% but i think those are from killing a M3 or other GV's in fighter mode. Ive also heard that proxies don't count, but again I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Pand on December 24, 2010, 04:26:30 AM
2nd question... which of the following count as a "DEATH" against your Kill/Death Ratio and do the ones that don't count as a 'death' affect the ratio in any way?

1.  Landed
2.  Bailed
3.  Ditched
4.  Captured
5.  Killed
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 24, 2010, 04:29:46 AM
They all count as a death except for landing and getting a ditch. A ditch gives you 1/2 a death.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: BrownBaron on December 24, 2010, 04:31:15 AM
EDIT: Beat me to it, Sunsfan.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: NCLawman on December 24, 2010, 08:29:22 AM
Kills in Field guns or Ship's guns also do not count toward rank.  And, I think Sunsfan is correct -- Ground kills in fighter mode do not count toward rank, and I think kills in a chute do not count (but don't quote me on that.)
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: kvuo75 on December 24, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
I would guess that kills in bombers dont count either.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: SWrokit on December 24, 2010, 08:52:48 AM
Shame they don't count, ie.......shore battery, field guns, CV gun kills, etc.  I think the skill it takes to achieve those kills could at least count towards GV perks....at the very least.  A kill is a kill.  It has always frustrated me to actively defend a carrier, walk away with 15 kills.........yet get no reward.

My 2 cents.

<S>
Rokit
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: kvuo75 on December 24, 2010, 08:56:05 AM
They all count as a death except for landing and getting a ditch. A ditch gives you 1/2 a death.

disco counts has half death.. as far as k/d, ditch is as good as landing :)

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Air Categories

Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)

http://www.hitechcreations.com/Help-Section/Aces-High-Features/aces-high-help-scoring.html

Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: kvuo75 on December 24, 2010, 08:57:38 AM
Shame they don't count, ie.......shore battery, field guns, CV gun kills, etc.  I think the skill it takes to achieve those kills could at least count towards GV perks....at the very least.  A kill is a kill.  It has always frustrated me to actively defend a carrier, walk away with 15 kills.........yet get no reward.

the reward is name in lights, which is more than enough considering there is no risk to gunning.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: SWrokit on December 24, 2010, 09:04:12 AM
the reward is name in lights, which is more than enough considering there is no risk to gunning.

No risk to gunning?  Do you not take the risk of being bombed?  I quite often advise my squad "Take Out The Shore Battery!".  If a CV is shelling a base isn't it standard Ops to eliminate the guns?  Attacking a CV, isn't it standard Ops to remove the anti-aircraft first?  No Risk?!?  I think not.

But that's only my Opinion.  You get into a gun position, and I'm here to tell ya, I'll put the word out to my squad "KILL THE GUNS".

<S>
Rokit
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: The Fugitive on December 24, 2010, 09:47:23 AM
Dieing in a gun isn't counted as a death, so "no risk"
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Lusche on December 24, 2010, 10:21:02 AM
I would guess that kills in bombers dont count either.


While they do not have any influence on score and rank, they do not run under the "Total Kills not counted towards Rank" category.

As it had been said before, kill with this label are GV kills in fighter mode and all kills made in guns
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: vafiii on December 24, 2010, 10:24:17 AM
So, I'm only half dead if I ditch and half dead if I disco? What if I disco ditch?
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Lusche on December 24, 2010, 10:25:12 AM
So, I'm only half dead if I ditch and half dead if I disco? What if I disco ditch?

No, you are only half dead with a disco. A ditch is no AH "death"
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: grizz441 on December 24, 2010, 11:33:56 AM
Yeah about the ditch.... as far as scoring goes, it does not count as a death, but you don't get as many points for the sortie, however your K/D and K/S are not affected by it.  If you are in a perk ride and you ditch, you lose half of the perks.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: lyric1 on December 24, 2010, 11:57:23 AM
Yeah about the ditch.... as far as scoring goes, it does not count as a death, but you don't get as many points for the sortie, however your K/D and K/S are not affected by it.  If you are in a perk ride and you ditch, you lose half of the perks.
Bingo. :aok
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: hitech on December 24, 2010, 12:07:20 PM
I was just reviewing some scoring on the HTC website... and looking at my kills, it says 8 of my 'kills' did not count towards rank.

Total Kills    342
Total Kills towards Rank    334
Total Kills not counted towards Rank    8

What are the possible situations where kills do not count towards rank? (Would like to avoid guesses and jokes please)

Are you mixing up statistics and score? The big difference is stats are loged at event time, scores are entered end of sortie time. As example if you are in flight durring the eject of arena swaps, or a system dump the kill would have been logged in stats, but not in scoring.

No where do I see the text "Total Kills towards Rank " in the scoring system unless I am just over looking it.

HiTech
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Lusche on December 24, 2010, 01:03:16 PM
No where do I see the text "Total Kills towards Rank " in the scoring system unless I am just over looking it.

You can find this text on the web score page by clicking on the "kills" which then opens a "kill stats" page. This is what makes the discussion a bit confusing at times, as you access this particular subpage via the "Pilot Score" page, not the (entirely different) "player statistics" page.
Title: Re: Questions on Scoring
Post by: Pand on December 26, 2010, 04:13:47 AM
Thanks all for the posts/info and links!