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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: vafiii on December 24, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
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Why does this happen? I make a perfect landing on the carrier, my tailhook snags the arresting wire, I come to a stop and then I'm immediately slig-shoted off the back of the carrier deck into the ocean?
Also, why do I sometimes snag a wire but the re-arm doesn't work? Are there only certain wires for re-arming?
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Why does this happen? I make a perfect landing on the carrier, my tailhook snags the arresting wire, I come to a stop and then I'm immediately slig-shoted off the back of the carrier deck into the ocean?
Also, why do I sometimes snag a wire but the re-arm doesn't work? Are there only certain wires for re-arming?
Your throttle adjustments are not shutting the engine down enough.
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if ya go a bit too far, for whatever reason, drop rpm's as low as possible, full flaps, then crack throttle till plane goes backwards (helps if some tard isnt turning cv)
As far as the slingshot thing, been a while, stay on brakes, kill engine?
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Check your touchdown speed you want to be 100mph or less.
If you try to back up, or you try to launch with the tail hook down after snagging a wire it will fling you off the end.
If you snag one of the forward wires you are out of the re-arm area.
Try to raise the tail hook as soon as you stop. It's not a bad habit to get in to, and can save you the grief of getting flung off the stern after a successful re-arm.
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Ive never seen this, I imagine its pretty amusing to watch from the tower :lol
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I come to a stop and then I'm immediately slig-shoted off the back of the carrier deck into the ocean?
Kinda sounds like fun.. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee!! :lol
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Ive never seen this, I imagine its pretty amusing to watch from the tower :lol
Have had this happen a few times to myself. Was told if you catch the wire left or right of center this will happen when hook finally reaches center as it travels down the wire & it will slingshot you back?
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Ive never seen this, I imagine its pretty amusing to watch from the tower :lol
It's actually just as funny, to me at least, when it happened to me. Lost the film to a rip and rebuild but, as soon as I figured out what happened, I laughed myself sore :D
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Ive never seen this, I imagine its pretty amusing to watch from the tower :lol
I've had it happen to me before and ive seen it happen while landing. its hilarious :lol
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happens to me too much :cry
does get a chuckle from folks on range though
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If you really want to give 'em a laugh in the tower. Drop flap, back up. As you move to the the rear of the deck, drop hook.
The speed and manner that it hurls you off is really a blast to watch.
<S> Oz
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If you back up (intentionally or otherwise) there is a bug where the hook will shoot you off the back. Not always, but often enough. The solution: RAISE HOOK before backing up!
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This is the combined effect of two physics glitches, one of which is beneficial.
The first is that you can back up on the carrier deck. By making your aircraft's mathematics work out that it should be traveling slower than the aircraft carrier, you can slide backwards across the deck. This is accomplished by raising the throttle very slightly.
The second is that we do not have explicit "wires" running across the deck and the way that they're modeled. It seems as though there is a near-infinite number of wires strewn across the back of the deck. For each one you touch, there is a slight backward force applied to your hook, thus slowing you to a stop quickly if you're traveling forwards. If you're going backwards, however, the hook touches one wire after another until you gain so much speed you can't stop, thereby flying backwards off the deck.
Learn to land with your hook up, calibrate or even under-calibrate your throttle (don't move it quite the full range, tricking the game into thinking its throw is short), or pull your hook up as soon as you stop.
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If you back up (intentionally or otherwise) there is a bug where the hook will shoot you off the back. Not always, but often enough. The solution: RAISE HOOK before backing up!
OR: fly jugs, which have no pesky hooks!
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OR: fly jugs, which have no pesky hooks!
ponies :noid
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C-47s!
Rearmed a goon on a carrier after a lone fighter killed a troop, was pretty funny hearing some of the comments.
Who needs a hook!
Strip
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Just chop throttle the last couple feet to wheels on deck. Raise hook when stopped. I am biased but the best planes have tailhooks. Keep practicing, have fun...and FLY NAVY !! :airplane: :salute
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As soon as im Stopped i raise the tail hook as if you watch like top gun when you see the F14 land and as soon as he's at a stop the brakes are on and Tailhook goes up. i believe this has been common practice for carrier landings since the carrier was born. As in real life all it takes is for dopey dinah to say plane cleared arrester wires and when they crank the wire in OH Dear expensive plane GOES BYE BYE and of the rear of the Deck. :) ( Not a pleasant thought that one is :eek:)
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You're doing it wrong....... Probably too much E..... 120 is way too fast, try to get below 105, but most birds can land below 100.
The 2nd question is answered with...... You are too far forward!
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You're doing it wrong....... Probably too much E..... 120 is way too fast, try to get below 105, but most birds can land below 100.
The 2nd question is answered with...... You are too far forward!
You can land at any airspeed that the gear don't break off with the hook and stop normally, if you can get the tail down. Being forward has nothing to do with it, except since the wires don't stretch, you might lose your "grip" and go flying off the bow.
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C-47s!
Rearmed a goon on a carrier after a lone fighter killed a troop, was pretty funny hearing some of the comments.
Who needs a hook!
Strip
I think they fixed this... :(
I can't re-arm troops or supplies on carriers anymore. I guess you have to end the sortie to get new cargo in the C-47, or at least that's what's happened to me.
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No, actually you can't, and 5 people have already described why. (buggy) But hey, if you have FILM of you landing some 300 mph Hog, by all means, share it with us?
And...... The "too far forward part" is talking about his 2nd issue. What are you talking about?
You can land at any airspeed that the gear don't break off with the hook and stop normally, if you can get the tail down. Being forward has nothing to do with it, except since the wires don't stretch, you might lose your "grip" and go flying off the bow.
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I read this thread some what perplexed, never having experienced the described. Then I realized I never land planes with hooks on carriers, just P-38s :lol.
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:lol I've seen the slingshot effect happen once.
I read this thread some what perplexed, never having experienced the described. Then I realized I never land planes with hooks on carriers, just P-38s :lol.
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I have been flung off the carrier backwards when crashing my A6M2 on the deck.
Was slow and sinking and broke the great, slid half sideways and then the wire flung me off backwards to my doom.
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If I am NOT mistaken, in real life, when landing on a CV, as you touchdown you must jam the throttle forward in case you missed the wire or the wire breaks, you have enough power to take off again and don't splash into the sea directly in front of the carrier path.
I used to experience the 'sling shot' effect described, because I would power up just at touchdown. I found out / figured out that in here, the power up against the arresting-wire, caused the slingshot and will throw you off the back or off the right-back of the CV.
Easy fix..... don't power up on landing. :rock
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In the WWII era, they cut throttle, pulled the stick back (with feet off the rudder pedals to prevent jamming on the toe brakes) and tried to stall onto the deck. That's a good technique to emulate . . . ;)
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In the WWII era, they cut throttle, pulled the stick back (with feet off the rudder pedals to prevent jamming on the toe brakes) and tried to stall onto the deck. That's a good technique to emulate . . . ;)
Yup, and if you follow that approach, ANY plane in AH lands just fine on carrier. 7 ton jug stops before conning tower. If the hook is needed to make you stop, your approach was less than perfect.