Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: DERK13 on December 31, 2010, 03:50:26 PM
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just a lil curious here, why is it that the delta model has an eny of 5 and the bravo model has an eny of 20 when in the game the bravo is better than the delta?
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just a lil curious here, why is it that the delta model has an eny of 5 and the bravo model has an eny of 20 when in the game the bravo is better than the delta?
What makes you think the B is better than the D ?
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it performs better at higher altitudes
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it performs better at higher altitudes
Now, where does most combat happen in AH? Above in that narrow band around 17k and above ~27k (that's where the B is performing better), or below 10k, where the P-51 is faster? And which model has 50% more firepower than the other? ;)
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well that may be where you fight at but for me and the rest of the squad during our escorts we fly well above 10k. What i really would like is to have the eny on the delta up some, kinda tired of getting 4 or 5 kills and seeing that i barely get above 1 perk from a plane that was yes an icon of the war but not the best. thats all i want is for the eny to increase some on the delta
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well that may be where you fight at but for me and the rest of the squad during our escorts we fly well above 10k. What i really would like is to have the eny on the delta up some, kinda tired of getting 4 or 5 kills and seeing that i barely get above 1 perk from a plane that was yes an icon of the war but not the best. thats all i want is for the eny to increase some on the delta
ENY isn't just about you only. ENY is about what happens in the arnena as a whole. And it will not get adjusted to suit the personal taste or mission profile of a small group pf players only.
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Ok , but tell me this then why is the eny on the delta so low and the bravos not, i see no major advantage that the delta has.
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Ok , but tell me this then why is the eny on the delta so low and the bravos not, i see no major advantage that the delta has.
I'd recommend taking note of the second half or my previous post:
Now, where does most combat happen in AH? Above in that narrow band around 17k and above ~27k (that's where the B is performing better), or below 10k, where the P-51 is faster? And which model has 50% more firepower than the other? ;)
You may also look up the performance differences yourself :)
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Ok , but tell me this then why is the eny on the delta so low and the bravos not, i see no major advantage that the delta has.
Faster, more firepower, better visibility, vastly more ordinance...
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Ok haha the jug has more firepower more ords, but hey look at its eny.
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Ok haha the jug has more firepower more ords, but hey look at its eny.
Late model Jugs are 5 as well I think...?
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P-51D is, by a significant margin, the most common airplane in the game.
Try doing escorts in P-47Ns perhaps?
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Late model Jugs are 5 as well I think...?
the M and N have 10.
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so what if it is the most common plane in the game, even that i think your wrong i think those spitdweebs are the most common they spread like kudzu they are everywhere. Also the jug and the pony are very similar inside except the firepower and the ords varients are on the jug are greater, but the eny is still better. Btw lusche do you even play the game or do you just troll the forums and watch from afar?
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To match the numbers of P-51Ds you have to add the Spitfire XVI, Spitfire VIII and, I think, the Spitfire IX.
So, no.
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ok thanks karnak, but even though it may be the most common doesnt mean the eny has to be low.
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According to last years "pie charts" the 51D was #1 at almost 8% while the Spit16 was #2 at almost 7%
We'll have to wait and see about this years numbers...... Snailman?
The ENY of a plane is figured out by HTC. They have some magical formula that they use to set the numbers. It has to do with many factors, some of which I'm sure us "common people" haven't even thought about.
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It was 8 ENY, but it's heavy usage resulted in the current 5 ENY rating. If the Jugs are the same, then why not fly the Jugs to get the extra perks you desire. You did say they are the same, right? Obviously you haven't flown one.
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ok thanks karnak, but even though it may be the most common doesnt mean the eny has to be low.
Generally, it does. There are reasons the P-51D and Spitfire Mk XVI are so common compared to other aircraft, even though the P-51B and Spitfire Mk VIII are almost as good as their more popular brethren.
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actually i have flown 1 plenty of times killed those spitdweebs in em alot. sure they seem easy to kill, but alot of people judge that book by its cover. Im still confused on why they changed the eny lower just because its was the most common plane flown last year. Still waiting on an aswer from lusche too.
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actually i have flown 1 plenty of times killed those spitdweebs in em alot. sure they seem easy to kill, but alot of people judge that book by its cover. Im still confused on why they changed the eny lower just because its was the most common plane flown last year. Still waiting on an aswer from lusche too.
Usage is one of the factors that governs ENY values, thus, high usage will lower an aircraft's ENY.
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The D is a better plane fo all the reasons outlined by better pilots then myself. And its popularity along with the spits populaity, is evidence of the most common nationalities.
Americans love their mustangs - and they should be proud of it. Brits are proud of their spits, and they should be proud of it, and so on. The are some of us that have other preferences because our mothers dropped us when we were kids.
as for eny - who cares really. . . never eally cared much about perks.
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it performs better at higher altitudes
Well, my '91 Honda Accord gets better gas mileage than that Corvette, therefore, I think it's a good trade.
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/06/29/02/34/1991-honda-accord-4-dr-ex-sedan-pic-27017.jpeg)
(http://www.2011corvette.info/images/2011-corvette-c7.jpg)
:aok
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ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.
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ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.
Depends on how much less it is used, doesn't it. The Spitfire Mk XVI is used less than the P-51D, yet it has an ENY of 5. The N1K2-J and La-7 are both used much less than the P-51D and Spitfire Mk XVI and they also have ENYs of 5.
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ok jay thats really not related to the topic. So basically you guys are saying if the pony is not the most used plane in the game the eny will increase, if it is out used by spitdweebs.
Your questions have been answered several times and your lazyness in searching the information you lack so much is becoming obvious. I find apalling your rudeness and bad attitude demonstrated in your lines. You are beeing offensive and arrogant with your fellow players.
Amidst all the ignorance, misconceptions and prejudice stated, space should be reserved for some much needed instruction.
Have a nice day.
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Comparison of the two...
P51D:
faster at lower alts.
6 guns (makes a huge difference to people who cant shoot well)
bubble canopy
HVARs and 1k lbers
P51B
tighter turning
more stable
faster at high alts
4 guns with less ammo than the 4 gun P51D
annoying older rockets and 500 lbers max.
In my opinion the P51D is 5 due to the 6 guns, more ammo, better ord package, and the availability of speed below 15k feet. The eny on the P51B is 20 due to the ord, 4 guns, less ammo, and like said, the 51B cannot out run a D below 15K although many pilots do not realize that the B can out turn them etc.
Both have advantages and both can be flown very deadly
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Comparison of the two...
P51D:
faster at lower alts.
6 guns (makes a huge difference to people who cant shoot well)
bubble canopy
HVARs and 1k lbers
P51B
tighter turning
more stable
faster at high alts
4 guns with less ammo than the 4 gun P51D
annoying older rockets and 500 lbers max.
In my opinion the P51D is 5 due to the 6 guns, more ammo, better ord package, and the availability of speed below 15k feet. The eny on the P51B is 20 due to the ord, 4 guns, less ammo, and like said, the 51B cannot out run a D below 15K although many pilots do not realize that the B can out turn them etc.
Both have advantages and both can be flown very deadly
what type of canopy does the B model have? i actually prefer the B model cocpit than the D's, it just seems to give better vis.
i REEAAALLLLYYY wish we had a merlin powered b51b :pray
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i REEAAALLLLYYY wish we had a merlin powered b51b :pray
What engine do you think we do have in our P-51B?
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what type of canopy does the B model have? i actually prefer the B model cocpit than the D's, it just seems to give better vis.
Malcolm Hood, which I have heard at least some wartime pilots preferred to the bubble canopy of the P-51D, saying they had better visibility out of it.
i REEAAALLLLYYY wish we had a merlin powered b51b :pray
Wish granted. All P-51Bs, Cs, Ds, Ks and Hs had Merlin engines, which means the P-51B in AH is modeled with a Merlin engine.
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Malcolm Hood, which I have heard at least some wartime pilots preferred to the bubble canopy of the P-51D, saying they had better visibility out of it.
Wish granted. All P-51Bs, Cs, Ds, Ks and Hs had Merlin engines, which means the P-51B in AH is modeled with a Merlin engine.
oh? i thought it was an allison engined powered one. my mistake then...
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Malcolm Hood, which I have heard at least some wartime pilots preferred to the bubble canopy of the P-51D, saying they had better visibility out of it.
P51B seems better visibilitywise for me also... everything about the Bravo attracts me over the Delta
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Malcolm Hood, which I have heard at least some wartime pilots preferred to the bubble canopy of the P-51D, saying they had better visibility out of it.
Wish granted. All P-51Bs, Cs, Ds, Ks and Hs had Merlin engines, which means the P-51B in AH is modeled with a Merlin engine.
354th FG Ace Richard Turner, of "Short Fuse Sallee" fame, commented that the Malcom hood allowed him to lean out and look back and below his tail, where the D canopy did not. It was also suggested that the airflow around the Malcom hood actually was smoother and gave it a bit more speed. If you can find a photo of a Malcom hooded Mustang from above, you can see that the canopy does bulge out to the sides a bit