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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Belial on January 08, 2011, 11:06:00 PM
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I like the new changes to how the towns are captured even if the % of buildings required down should be a bit higher. BUT
Even with bases being easier to take we aren't seeing maps rotated. I know some may not mind playing the same maps for months on end but I really liked how we use to get a fresh map after titanic tuesday.
Are these days over? I can't be alone in missing them.
Am I going to lose sleep? no
But gameplay is not as interesting IMO :confused:
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Im usually not one to bother for what map i fly on. but Orange's Trinity needs the boot soon. how long? two months of the same map? even my limits being stretched for this one...
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This is what happens when the dev's. don't play the game.
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There was a secret meeting held in Grapevine where it was decided to do everything possible to make the player base complain more. First on the list was no map rotation. Neutering the LW planes even more was second. Third was using Lusche's idea as a shield to irritate folks when the two latewars go to one late night.
Watch 200 and you can see their fiendish plan is working! :)
If you don't watch out, Skuzzy is going to accidentally on purpose trip over the power cable at a time when the most perk planes are in the air too. :aok
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Even with bases being easier to take we aren't seeing maps rotated.
Heh.
- oldman
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Heh.
- oldman
they are :lol but now the problem is that all three sides wont work strategically enough for enough time to actually finish off the map's 40% for both countries. when the rooks took 60% of nitland, the bish knocked the rooks out. The next two days has the rooks and bish pushed back but then the bish pushed the nits. the next day, the nits pushed back and the rooks kicked the nits butts all over. the next day... sheesh its ring around the rosy without the all falling down... YET. :aok
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Third was using Lusche's idea as a shield to irritate folks when the two latewars go to one late night.
I knew it... I'm just a pawn in a greater game for power :uhoh
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they are :lol but now the problem is that all three sides wont work strategically enough for enough time to actually finish off the map's 40% for both countries. when the rooks took 60% of nitland, the bish knocked the rooks out. The next two days has the rooks and bish pushed back but then the bish pushed the nits. the next day, the nits pushed back and the rooks kicked the nits butts all over. the next day... sheesh its ring around the rosy without the all falling down... YET. :aok
LOL only one thing to do. Apparently HTC is paving the way for the B29 and NUKES! Since the crowd no longer has the desire or will to actually win the map, it will be instant gratifcation. Never ending map rotations as the B29s up, drop their Nukes and the war ends every five minutes causing the map to change. Lets see, that would be how many map changes a day?
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LOL only one thing to do. Apparently HTC is paving the way for the B29 and NUKES! Since the crowd no longer has the desire or will to actually win the map, it will be instant gratifcation. Never ending map rotations as the B29s up, drop their Nukes and the war ends every five minutes causing the map to change. Lets see, that would be how many map changes a day?
in return creating or no...re defining the definition of "milk running" for those so head strong set on obtaining Bomber Perks to be able to contninously up a Nuke equipped B-29 :D :bolt:
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anyone else wish they would allow AvA maps in the main arenas? they are by far the best maps, or how about just get rid of the main arenas and just have the AvA arena?
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or how about just get rid of the main arenas and just have the AvA arena?
You think abolishing the arenas with 80% of AH activity in favor of the arena with the smallest population would be a good move? ;)
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anyone else wish they would allow AvA maps in the main arenas? they are by far the best maps, or how about just get rid of the main arenas and just have the AvA arena?
There's a reason why nobody ever goes in the AvA.
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There's a reason why nobody ever goes in the AvA.
Yup, nobody that is afraid of getting their butts kicked EVER goes into the AvA. See above. :lol
I agree that I haven't seen the maps reset in a long time, and Lusche in another post, states that it was not part of his "Off Hours" map configuration plan.
Tyrannis may have been a little over zealous with his praise of the AvA maps. But there is a suggestion for those of you, who are open minded enough and don't mind letting your ego take a bruising. When the maps are set to reboot the MA, or you just have had your fill for a while, check into the "empty" Axis Versus Allies Arena. Fly around and see what you can blow up or drive around.
You might find yourself very quickly jumping on the Tyrannis band wagon (minus the do away with LW part).
For example: Yesterday, I logged on to the server splash screen, and saw numbers below 10 in both arenas, so I went to the empty AvA arena. I grabbed an attack plane and flew through a dust storm (cloud coloring unique to this terrain), and began strafing one of the bridges along the twin rivers until it was destroyed (traffic problem also unique to this terrain). Just before I was about to land I noticed that the arena was starting to become populated. Pretty soon, we had a nice AvA furball which lasted for the better part of the evening.
Had a few, get their egos hurt when they lost fights with multiple attackers (missing their little red icons) and left instead of grabbing another plane and getting back in the fight (which would have taken about 2 minutes).
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Yup, nobody that is afraid of getting their butts kicked EVER goes into the AvA. See above.
:lol You cant get your butt kicked if there's nobody to kick it.
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I was extremely happy with HTC making Orange te large map and Blue having the small maps, but that seems to have gone away somewere, now it's 2 massive maps in both arenas with 150 players max most of the time in both arenas. There's usually only 1 base that the fighting is going at anymore. :(
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There's usually only 1 base that the fighting is going at anymore. :(
You Can fight with or against the horde.
Starting a fight is as easy as attacking another base.
For those who do not want to fight for a win yet need another map to look at... I would think the next update will reset the maps and center the front lines all over again.
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Don't the maps change twice a day?
:noid
wrongway
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they are :lol but now the problem is that all three sides wont work strategically enough for enough time to actually finish off the map's 40% for both countries. when the rooks took 60% of nitland, the bish knocked the rooks out. The next two days has the rooks and bish pushed back but then the bish pushed the nits. the next day, the nits pushed back and the rooks kicked the nits butts all over. the next day... sheesh its ring around the rosy without the all falling down... YET. :aok
There was a reset in LWOH the other night, and it reset to the same map.
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:lol You cant get your butt kicked if there's nobody to kick it.
Actually, it was pretty crowded in there last night. :)
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The same fights at the same fields are really becoming dull. I have even herd people talking about trying other games. And have seen people log on see the same map say forget this and log back off. we really need the maps switched already. At least orange and off hours.
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Actually, it was pretty crowded in there last night. :)
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give or take
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The same fights at the same fields are really becoming dull. I have even herd people talking about trying other games. And have seen people log on see the same map say forget this and log back off. we really need the maps switched already. At least orange and off hours.
My opinion is tempered by the fact that I've only been here approx 2 years, but right now the map in the "off hours arena" is becoming a little....... well....... old, and definitely the worst map of all HTC has to choose from for the rotation. Bad map, few GV spawns, very unbalanced. I was really hoping to see a different map after TT but when it reset it went to the same map, but with country locations swapped from before TT. Thanks for the change of pace. We'll be stuck with the same crappy map for another week in that arena, I'll bet a 6-pack on it.
Yes, that sucks.
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There was a reset in LWOH the other night, and it reset to the same map.
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2 weeks
JUGgler
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gonna be a LONG 2 weeks lol :old: :old: :old:
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If it helps, I will not log in until lets say 5 oclock monday evening, that should make things a little easier for the horde to reset the map...... :lol
After that its back to killing the lemmings. :joystick:
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For map boredom i find myself flying upside down alot, last night i upped from our base and flew inverted to the next base looking for Cons( squaddies used to wonder why, now they don't lol ) Eh i was bored lol eventually i found some horde and my boredom was over
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lol eventually i found some horde and my boredom was over
:furious... :airplane:... :O... :joystick:....... :x... :angel:.
:cheers:... :airplane:... :joystick:... :angel:. thats better.
:cheers:... :airplane:... :joystick:... :angel:. :salute
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I dont care about the map, allthough I do like a smaller map, fights are closer, but seriously I just love flying and fighting dont care about the landscape.
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well said reapr! :salute
as far as us day guys (central) i fear we are in a minority now where i thoughts and fears about a game we love go un-noticed.
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I dont care about the map, allthough I do like a smaller map, fights are closer, but seriously I just love flying and fighting dont care about the landscape.
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If there are auto-resets how will the "win teh warz!!1!" get their perks.
Planes are too hard to shoot down. They flop around too much. Why won't Hitech make it easier.
I hear people are talking about quitting. Wait, maybe they were just planning on whining more instead.
Want maps rotated? Win teh warz!!1!
I challenge the various hoards to make it so or shut up.
wrongway
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If there are auto-resets how will the "win teh warz!!1!" get their perks.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,300883.0.html :)
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,300883.0.html :)
Intention:
I want to ensure that maps are still rotating in reasonable time.
I want to give the "strategic players" a bigger carrot
I don't want to accomplish that at the expense of any other playing style
I don't want to dumb down anything, or to make captures easier again
I do want to create more hotspots for fights
1. Are maps rotating any faster or slower than they were before? You get the "right" map up and it's reset in a matter of hours. Is that fun?
2. Milkrunning targets? Points? Strats were attacked previously because it was easy, not because anyone thought they were doing anything "strategic". Want to help your country? Pork all the enemy bases on your front.
3. Apparently whine enough and things will get dumbed down.
4. Attempting to take bases create fights. The problem seems to be immediate gratification. If the base doesn't fall in ten minutes, it's off to the other side of the map. Bring the hoard. Kill all the hangers so no one can defend, and take a base. Again, is that fun?
Welcome to the x-box generation?
The two new, main whines are, Change the maps, it's stale flying on the same map all the time and Stop the reset, you're changing the maps every day.
Which is it?
wrongway
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The two new, main whines are, Change the maps, it's stale flying on the same map all the time and Stop the reset, you're changing the maps every day.
Which is it?
wrongway
Things are not only back or white. Gameplay balance is an in between. Maps changing 3 times a day can indicate gameplay balance issues. Maps not changing at all over 4 weeks is another one. And yes, it does matter to some people beyond a simple "it's getting old whine". Maps have a big influence on combat style and gameplay opportunities. Some maps do not have any CVs. No CV fights at all for months take a big chunk outta gameplay. Current offpeak map Mindanao (which I personally do like a lot) makes Gv combat difficult and at times almost impossible. Maps like Trinity often lead to two countries ganging on one not due to player decisions, but due to layout. And the list goes on.
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I have no issue with changing maps.
Depending on what map I'm on does influence what I am going to do. Bit still, a map is a map.
The only time I can think of not playing because of the map is Mindanao. Not because of the map layout, I like the hills and things. My computer really does not like being away from the cost though.
I just figure with auto-map-resets, no one will have the opportunity to win teh warz. Isn't that the whine about the off-peak change?
wrongway
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I just figure with auto-map-resets, no one will have the opportunity to win teh warz. Isn't that the whine about the off-peak change?
Actually before the change, almost all map resets in LWO had been map changes by Skuzzy on TT. LWB had seen wars being more often just because of very low and very imbalanced population. So we had the "problem" of war-resets for quite some time.
And that's why I had the idea to introduce two levels of war victory.
The only time I can think of not playing because of the map is Mindanao. Not because of the map layout, I like the hills and things. My computer really does not like being away from the cost though.
And Mindanao is the offpeak map 15 hours a day since end of November now ;)
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I dont care about the map, allthough I do like a smaller map, fights are closer, but seriously I just love flying and fighting dont care about the landscape.
That's my bit too. I couldn't tell you the name of the map in the arena if my life depended on it. It's one thing in a scenario for the immersion to know you are 'flying' out of a certain base that fits the timeframe and the group you are with. It's another in the MA where one base looks like another to me. As long as the dar bar shows up and there is a fight it's all good.
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For map boredom i find myself flying upside down alot, last night i upped from our base and flew inverted to the next base looking for Cons( squaddies used to wonder why, now they don't lol ) Eh i was bored lol eventually i found some horde and my boredom was over
I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that :P
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Perhaps since the folks down south are getting hammered with winter weather, and I trust that most of us have had a holiday break (assuming that HTC also would have given their staff some extra quality time with their loved ones), the question in the subject bar is totally up to them to answer.
I would like to see them change at least weekly, but whatever the answer, it is not the end all for me, either way. Although I am "bothered" by the long run of a single map, I feel I have enough choices to jump around to and from, time to time. I like stopping in to visit the trainers in the TA and ask my noobie questions. I experiment with different dogfight / furball tactics in the DA. Time actually flies by whenever involved in Special Events or AvA participation. Sometimes, I have so much fun elsewhere, I feel guilty for not popping in the MA just to say hello to my friends and squadees.
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The simpleton captures seems to be working both ways creating a little more movement on maps. It seems to be keeping the maps up longer too.
At least the capture the flag folks should be happy.
Just can't please everyone.
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The simpleton captures seems to be working both ways creating a little more movement on maps. It seems to be keeping the maps up longer too.
That's not the reason. This stalemate is way older than the new 50% + flag setting. In the past we had more map rotation simply because of the weekly reset by Skuzzy and milkrunning bases in an almost empty LWB during offpeak times.
And on the "simpleton captures" - the capture rate is still less than it had been for years, before the new towns & peak/offpeak arena settings were introduced. ;)
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And on the "simpleton captures" - the capture rate is still less than it had been for years, before the new towns & peak/offpeak arena settings were introduced. ;)
Amazing since at times the captures seem to outpace the text of folks communicating.
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Amazing since at times the captures seem to outpace the text of folks communicating.
Depends on time of day... I frequently noticed that during US peak times there is much less communication than during offpeak times, despite having 3-6 times more players in the arena. Made me wonder for years :headscratch:
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Depends on time of day... I frequently noticed that during US peak times there is much less communication than during offpeak times, despite having 3-6 times more players in the arena. Made me wonder for years :headscratch:
More players = more players to abuse and make fun of you if you say the wrong thing.
I'm sure that's what keeps most of the people quiet; they're in the arena to have a good time, not to be trash-talked
by "adults" with more ego than male genitalia. Hence, they'll stick to squad/other channels as opposed to Country.
BUT, that is a different argument for a different thread. UNFORTUNATELY, most would rather argue here instead.
To answer the topic's question; NO. Hitech will NEVER rotate the maps! EVER! They ENJOY watching you suffer!
They LAUGH at threads like this one!
The mighty gods on Mt. Hitech-ous are BEMUSED by all the whines and cries!
You will eventually reset Mindanao with Mindanao!
IT WILL NEVER END!
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Maybe a better question...Any plans for new maps soon?
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Doctahg, that's a whole different subject! All of the maps in the last 5-7 years have been made by players. There are 11 of I think. If you wish, you can build your own map and submit it. Seeing as your just starting out you could have it in the game in 6 months or so :)
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I like the new changes to how the towns are captured even if the % of buildings required down should be a bit higher. BUT
Even with bases being easier to take we aren't seeing maps rotated. I know some may not mind playing the same maps for months on end but I really liked how we use to get a fresh map after titanic tuesday.
Are these days over? I can't be alone in missing them.
Am I going to lose sleep? no
But gameplay is not as interesting IMO :confused:
Welcome to the new AcesHigh.....its called groundhog day....same maps, same fights, same base trades.
Thank God spring is getting closer so I can stop and do something else.
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this new setup up getting danger close to fonzi, a motorcycle and a shark :(
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1.) Shut game down.
2.) Close BBS.
3.) Wait two weeks.
4.) Re-open game.
5.) Re-open BBS.
6.) Enjoy silence.
S. T. F. U.
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if that will get rid o the off hours crap then make it so
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This is what happens when the dev's. don't play the game.
+1 .... that, or looking inside the box into the office of HTCs, they're all enjoying pulling their hair out and balding as fast as the rest of us.
Seriously, who wants to play those same maps at the same time of day, for over a week on end? I love the new changes, but these changes do not go well at all with the mega-maps up in the rotations. My favorite map of the lot lately has been the off-hours server's smaller map, but TT's, Orange's and Blue's maps are either all the same map right now or different massive-mega-maps that we have all been getting sick of tooling over since xmass.... ya know, like your aunt Sally's fruitcake, it's this massive lump of mass sitting there on the counter, everyday, calling you to eat it and you know you should but you also know you don't want to touch it again.
Will someone think of the CHILDREN and rotate/change the maps already? KILL THE FRUITCAKE!
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I wanted to stay quiet, especially not to disrespect my good friend DadBunnyWabbit :D But the thread has moved away from the map rotation question and into a discussion on "Off Hours Late War Arena Change".
The map resets, as Lusche pointed out, previously came due to unopposed bases being taken during off hours play time. The consistent decline from base captures of a year ago is pointing to a trend in players either loosing interest in the victory conditions or not feeling rewarded enough to engage in chess piece battles.
My feelings on the matter, "Old habbits die hard." The game was being channeled in one direction, air combat over airfields.
The strat war has slipped further into the background, and defenders and attackers clump into furballs and don't produce much movement.
So, a temporary fix would be to rotate the maps. A more permanent fix would be a more dynamic victory system, that rewards small group and individual efforts toward a common chess piece goal.
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the whole capture thing is to promote combat plain and simple, if you are all about the fight why would you care about the war or the map or any of that, the scenery looks the same from 1k to to 10k I guess if your into GV's the scenery might matter, but even then isnt it about killin other GV's.......maybe if the scenery means that much to ya you should go play zoo tycoon or something.
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the whole capture thing is to promote combat plain and simple, if you are all about the fight why would you care about the war or the map or any of that, the scenery looks the same from 1k to to 10k I guess if your into GV's the scenery might matter, but even then isnt it about killin other GV's.......maybe if the scenery means that much to ya you should go play zoo tycoon or something.
I don't think people care about the actual scenario so much as the way fights develop based on different base arrangements, different starting alts, three way fights, short distance fights, sea based fights, etc.
For me personally if I had to fight the same two bases 0k start and meet in the middle I would get bored also.
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listen Grizz,dont try and be reasonable with me.........damn it all now I want new maps.......@%~:"'#"'&::&..........hehe
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listen Grizz,dont try and be reasonable with me.........damn it all now I want new maps.......@%~:"'#"'&::&..........hehe
I see your point though, ultimately it is the close quarters engagement that is the best part of the game and it doesn't matter what the map is for that. :aok
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There are some maps that favor planes....like ones with canyons to dogfight in.
And then there are maps like the one with the infamous V85 for gv'ers..
I just don't see why Lusches idea on a new win the war strat...or possible a set reset date wouldn't be a better compromise.
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For me personally if I had to fight the same two bases 0k start and meet in the middle I would get bored also.
You just EXACTLY described the WWI arena design. :rofl
:rolleyes:,
Wab
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This is what happens when the dev's. don't play the game.
:old:
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I see your point though, ultimately it is the close quarters engagement that is the best part of the game and it doesn't matter what the map is for that. :aok
Sure! Ink says it and you aren't going to argue with him? :)
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Sure! Ink says it and you aren't going to argue with him? :)
Ink is a reasonable fellow, we can always find common ground.
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I don't think people care about the actual scenario so much as the way fights develop based on different base arrangements, different starting alts, three way fights, short distance fights, sea based fights, etc.
For me personally if I had to fight the same two bases 0k start and meet in the middle I would get bored also.
And boring is an understatement. Its gone beyond that. Its like a cruel sick joke every single day.
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The answer to the OP is "NO"
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LWO has been changed to Ndisles now.
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LWO has been changed to Ndisles now.
Took enough of us crying like little girls over it. :rolleyes:
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I didn't think my request for information was unreasonable...I asked if he had any plans for the future hoping for a response from hitech.
Instead i got a few 40 y/o guys in there underwear hitting on me :D
I still think Lusche has the best Idea to make everyone happy in the thread he linked earlier.
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LWO has been changed to Ndisles now.
And what was the first base to be captured? Right, a tank town Vbase :lol :rolleyes:
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good grief.........
just get rid of this off hours. bring back daily larger maps with more choices. people will fight. seems like lately the only "daily" fun to be had is when titanic tuesday rolls around. bigger map, more choices and it seems to last around 2 days in ht time. quit trying to fix something that is not broke in the first place.
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good grief.........
just get rid of this off hours. bring back daily larger maps with more choices. people will fight. seems like lately the only "daily" fun to be had is when titanic tuesday rolls around. bigger map, more choices and it seems to last around 2 days in ht time. quit trying to fix something that is not broke in the first place.
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For me personally if I had to fight the same two bases 0k start and meet in the middle I would get bored also.
In AW4W the most popular place for years was just that...a fight between the same bases (B85/A82) in the VOD. When AW went to medium and large side maps, people lamented the loss of VOD and the same old battle between those two bases.
I guess back then we were just happy to fight and didn't give a rat's bellybutton about capturing bases or winning the war, unlike you kids these days.
ack-ack
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unlike you kids these days.
ack-ack
:lol
Akak I played Aw1 on AOL and AW3 on gamestorm over 12-13 years ago. How old do you think I am?
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Akak I played Aw1 on AOL and AW3 on gamestorm over 12-13 years ago. How old do you think I am?
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lol Grizz was thinking same thing I knew you been at this stuff for quite a while, Im 41 but never did this kinda game untill FA3.5 and then it was offline, only when I saw Jozepi playing AH in 04 did I get involved in online play, and to this day its still about the fight I would be totaly ok if we had only 1map, no GV's, Grizz is correct though many would get bored with that type of play. I just miss flyin and dying :-(
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Please, akak doesn't know the first thing about trolling.
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Please, akak doesn't know the first thing about trolling.
He attempts but fails like he does at game play and flaming someone.
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He attempts but fails like he does at game play and flaming someone.
:rofl
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:lol
Akak I played Aw1 on AOL and AW3 on gamestorm over 12-13 years ago. How old do you think I am?
you mean you got left out of the delphi, compuserve,etc and $6 to $12 an hour days????
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you mean you got left out of the delphi, compuserve,etc and $6 to $12 an hour days????
I started on AOL when it was free. :aok
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I started on AOL when it was free. :aok
Then you missed having to explain those huge credit card bills when they showed up. It wasn't always pretty :)
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In AW4W the most popular place for years was just that...a fight between the same bases (B85/A82) in the VOD. When AW went to medium and large side maps, people lamented the loss of VOD and the same old battle between those two bases.
I guess back then we were just happy to fight and didn't give a rat's bellybutton about capturing bases or winning the war, unlike you kids these days.
ack-ack
You do recall what most people thought of the crowd in the VoD though right? :)
Where is RAGS when you need em?
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you know back then Corky, noone ever mentioned anything about a new map or capturing a base
I just wanted to record a kill on Merch, Mute or Boozer closer to their own field than mine
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you know back then Tiff, noone ever mentioned anything about a new map or capturing a base
I just wanted to record a kill on Merch, Mute or Boozer closer to their own field than mine
Agreed. I found AW in 96 at the end of the pay for play. Just the idea that I could actually fly against other cartoon pilots was such a huge deal that I never thought about what the map was. You knew where the fights were, and in general you knew who would be fighting where. It was a big deal to get to download cockpit art so the 38 didn't look like a 51.
Seems like it was an ongoing fight between C83 and B83. Can't remember what it number it was between A and C land. A85 I think was where the fight tended to end up. If you got really ambitious you flew a fighter sweep from C84 to the VoD just to cause trouble :)
Twas a long time ago in a galaxie far away :)
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See Rule #4
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damn all this time you guys been flying you would think it would be harder for me to kill ya..........:-)
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You do recall what most people thought of the crowd in the VoD though right? :)
Where is RAGS when you need em?
It wasn't the Valley of the Dweebs for nothing. :D
ack-ack
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Agreed. I found AW in 96 at the end of the pay for play. Just the idea that I could actually fly against other cartoon pilots was such a huge deal that I never thought about what the map was. You knew where the fights were, and in general you knew who would be fighting where. It was a big deal to get to download cockpit art so the 38 didn't look like a 51.
Seems like it was an ongoing fight between C83 and B83. Can't remember what it number it was between A and C land. A85 I think was where the fight tended to end up. If you got really ambitious you flew a fighter sweep from C84 to the VoD just to cause trouble :)
Twas a long time ago in a galaxie far away :)
VOD between B85 and A83 were always the most popular because the fields were the closest. Czlanders had a mini-VOD at C83/B83 but the bases weren't as close as the VOD and the fights would end up devolving after a bit. There was also the upper mini-VOD in the river above the Big Pond but those bases too weren't as close as the Az/Bz VOD. I remember a lot of Czlanders would just pack as much fuel as we could and just fly in VOD until we died or fuel ran out.
ack-ack
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Please, akak doesn't know the first thing about trolling.
LOL!!
I guess you don't remember this little troll of mine that got you and a few other Muppets. True, not my best work but still got you :D
Why not take advantage of this 'uber' plane that is free to fly? Oh and how many perks should it cost to fly smart guy, a million bajillion?
From this thread, Perk the P-38J in the Mid-War Arena (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255725.0.html)
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See Rule #4
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I had many of my most memorable 1 on 1's and 1 on 2's in the VOD. You never see a furball breaking into 1:1/1:2 these days.
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See Rule #4
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EPIC TROLL BATTLE!!!
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/057/6/c/Epic_Battle_by_bumhand.jpg)
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The trolls are coming the trolls are coming!!! :x :bolt:
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LOL!!
I guess you don't remember this little troll of mine that got you and a few other Muppets. True, not my best work but still got you :D
From this thread, Perk the P-38J in the Mid-War Arena (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255725.0.html)
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Pulling trolls from two years ago when I was a bbs newb? Wow you are desperate! :lol
Your trolling is as good as anything else of yours that is non P38J related. I bet you even sleep with a P38 cuddle bear at night.
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haha Grizz.......thats no differant then you 262 pillow.......oh crap should I have let that out.........:-) AKAK How bout you put that 38 against my hurri....or say my KI84 when I get back, you've been flying so long im sure I can learn something from ya.......oh wait been there done that.......as I recall it was short and sweet, that 38 made such a nice pretty explosion....twice in a row :-0
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Then you missed having to explain those huge credit card bills when they showed up. It wasn't always pretty :)
Oh, we still got them... the line item just read differently. ;)
TEH VOD WILL NEVAR DYE!!!!11eleventeen
(http://www.retrojunk.com/img/art-images/tenhours.jpg)
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Pulling trolls from two years ago when I was a bbs newb?
Just wondered if you and the other Muppets have been able to remove that hook after all these years.
I bet you even sleep with a P38 cuddle bear at night.
Yep, and in my P-38 pajamas.
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Jokes aside, if you find any P38 stuffed like a teddy bear or P38 pajamas, let me know.
It would make a good photo op for my son.
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This looks done.