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Title: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Halo on January 11, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
Doesn't seem likely, but who knows some day? Just loaded X Plane on my Motorola Droid X. Not much to it, but it is kinda fun. Six-axis controller on Droid X as on PlayStation 3. Pricey at $10 (most smart phone applications are free or around $5).  :airplane:

Wouldn't hurt for Aces High to investigate this market. Smart phones seem destined to rule the world along with home computer big screen and full size keyboard base stations.

Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Delirium on January 11, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
It would be far easier to port AH to a game console, like the XBox or the Wii.

That said, as much as it would help HTC financially, it would irrevocably change this game and (imho) not for the better.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 11, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
Doesn't seem likely, but who knows some day? Just loaded X Plane on my Motorola Droid X. Not much to it, but it is kinda fun. Six-axis controller on Droid X as on PlayStation 3. Pricey at $10 (most smart phone applications are free or around $5).  :airplane:

Wouldn't hurt for Aces High to investigate this market. Smart phones seem destined to rule the world along with home computer big screen and full size keyboard base stations.




The game market for smart phones are in social and casual games though some MMO companies like Icarus Studios have made an app for their game Fallen Earth.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Wiley on January 11, 2011, 03:09:08 PM
I just can't see something like AH working on a smart phone.  Not enough control fidelity.

What I've often been curious about, is why the consoles don't have a decent sim that will support USB joysticks and trackIR and the like.  There'd be a decent number of people who might not have $600-800 to get a decent computer and then the money for a good joystick that might have the $300 or less for a console and the controllers to go with it.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Ardy123 on January 11, 2011, 06:05:31 PM
Almost all smartphones use ARM (mainly ARM Cortex-A8/9 & ARM 11s) based chipsets. These chipsets, although are more powerful than they have ever been are still significantly less powerful than your desktop computer thus would be unable to deliver the same experience that you have on your computer.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: jolly22 on January 11, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
It would be far easier to port AH to a game console, like the XBox or the Wii.

That said, as much as it would help HTC financially, it would irrevocably change this game and (imho) not for the better.
DRASTIC INSCREASE IN SQUEEKERS  :O
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Halo on January 11, 2011, 07:29:25 PM
Six-axis controllers are a hoot but I wonder if they ever will have real-life flying applications. Their most pronounced universal sweep is in Google Sky -- like being in the center of a transparent Earth looking outward with a true 360-degree view of the heavens. (That's probably technically inaccurate somewhere, but it's important to at least try to convey its unprecedented scope.)

As we all know, Aces High aficionados should have little trouble flying drones in real war. Various clips in YouTube and elsewhere show current military drone setups using joysticks and auxiliary sticks similar to what many of us are used to. And when it does come to air-to-air drone combat, who has more experience than Aces Highers?
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Pigslilspaz on January 11, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
One problem, in this game it only costs $15 a month to ram planes all you want, in Real life, easily 100's of millions for one oopsie.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 14, 2011, 02:07:28 PM
It would be far easier to port AH to a game console, like the XBox or the Wii.

That said, as much as it would help HTC financially, it would irrevocably change this game and (imho) not for the better.
crapbox=no. wii= :rofl

make it a ps3 exclusive, best graphics you can get out of a console, plus psn is free, therefore you wouldnt have to pay an internet fee+aceshigh fee like you would if it came out on xbox. plus ps3 has the most gb's out of all consoles. you can easily "supercharge" yours to 500gb. plus if you sign up for folding home you get unlimited gbs wihile hooked up to online.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Pigslilspaz on January 14, 2011, 02:19:48 PM
crapbox=no. wii= :rofl

make it a ps3 exclusive, best graphics you can get out of a console, plus psn is free, therefore you wouldnt have to pay an internet fee+aceshigh fee like you would if it came out on xbox. plus ps3 has the most gb's out of all consoles. you can easily "supercharge" yours to 500gb. plus if you sign up for folding home you get unlimited gbs wihile hooked up to online.

*cough* fanboy *cough*
also, with all those facts that the XBox came out a whole year before PS3? it is sort of required that the PS3 would perform better, otherwise it would have been a bigger launch flop than it already was. Also, if it was exclusive, that would mean less money for the company, which is probably the only reason why they would make it console.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 14, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
*cough* fanboy *cough*
also, with all those facts that the XBox came out a whole year before PS3? it is sort of required that the PS3 would perform better, otherwise it would have been a bigger launch flop than it already was. Also, if it was exclusive, that would mean less money for the company, which is probably the only reason why they would make it console.
not a fanboy, i just know from experiance. ive owned 2 360s. ( both died from RROD) and my mother owned a wii i played some. plus a ps3. and out of all 3, the ps3 outshines all.
coming out a whole year before was one of the biggest mistakes microsoft made (other than releasing the 360 in the first place). 360 had many bugs,problems,etc.they were sued 3 times.(over RROD, disk scratching,and some design flaw). when the ps3 came out, it had no flaw. except maybe the heavy price tag. but it was def worth what you payed.only problem ive ever had with my ps3 was it wouldnt turn on for a day, and thats cus i spilled water on it. and ive had mine ever since 2007. and the only universal problem ps3 ever had was a clock bug that kicked people off psn when they were using the older ps3s. and sony fixed that within a week. unlike microsoft who had to release a brand new redesigned console, plus add a 2 year warrenty to fix the RROD and disk scratching issues. and also i laugh at the people who say "ps3 doesnt have any games". ps3 has more exclusives than 360 does. alot more. combined with free internet+home+web browser+blueray+240 player online battles+1080I+better graphics+more gb's make ps3 the best console game out there. and no, thats not entirely true about making more money by going multi-plat. most companies that do that will design the game on the lowest quality console they plane to sell to, then simply port the game over to the others. so out of wii+crapbox+ps3. aceshigh would be made on the wii, with the crappy graphics etc, then ported to the 360&ps3. sure it may sell on the wii, but imagine trying to play aceshigh with ps1 graphics? that would make alot of crapbox&ps3 players turn away. but if it was ps3 exclusive, you'd have more space to code. the ps3 has more gbs, you'd have the free internet. the much better graphics. and psn onlines prob the only one who could handle the amount of online players aceshigh currently has per room. MAG was able to have 240 player online matches. its allready been proven crapbox live cant even get close to that.

Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: spitfreak01 on January 15, 2011, 04:59:21 AM
It would be far easier to port AH to a game console, like the XBox or the Wii.

That said, as much as it would help HTC financially, it would irrevocably change this game and (imho) not for the better.


And what if you dont have xbox live? shoot offline drones?
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: spitfreak01 on January 15, 2011, 05:04:41 AM
crapbox=no. wii= :rofl

make it a ps3 exclusive, best graphics you can get out of a console, plus psn is free, therefore you wouldnt have to pay an internet fee+aceshigh fee like you would if it came out on xbox. plus ps3 has the most gb's out of all consoles. you can easily "supercharge" yours to 500gb. plus if you sign up for folding home you get unlimited gbs wihile hooked up to online.
What the hell is wrong with your ps3?

PS3 are for poor poeple... it's worth for it paying xbox live and having more features on it than only having the option playing online and sitting on the internet and chatting or downloading something... xbox live has: Voice message, Character customization, NetFlix (you pay for it) And much more...

(some of these features are also supported at the ps3)
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 15, 2011, 05:18:20 AM
What the hell is wrong with your ps3?

PS3 are for poor poeple... it's worth for it paying xbox live and having more features on it than only having the option playing online and sitting on the internet and chatting or downloading something... xbox live has: Voice message, Character customization, NetFlix (you pay for it) And much more...

(some of these features are also supported at the ps3)
rly? cus my ps3 is the $700 limited edition black 160gb ps3. thats alot more than xbox costs, xbox is more of the poor peoples gaming console. ps3 has voice chat/voice message,netflix(Was the first out of all console to get it) and hulu. and a web browser, which crapbox doesnt. plus ps3 has HOME. which is alot funner "charcter cusomization" than xbox live has. on live you just have a little dude who u dress up and shows on your pro card, cant do anything else with him. on psn HOME, the games like a mix between the sims&second life. you can take your avatar on there and play psn exclusive games,chat with ppl, buy house cloths etc. alot more customization than live gives you.and no. its not "worth it". you pay live to get the online options you'd be getting free with the ps3 and the web browser, wanna watch videos on youtube? or serf the internet? just open the web browser. its free and has alot more access than live gives you.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: B3YT on January 15, 2011, 06:49:47 AM

i hate to say this PS3 fanboys but looking at the spec sheets for PS3 and Xbox 360 , the 360 actually comes in with a better spec. Mostly down to the CPu (which is AMD ) and the GC (which is ATI) that were deigned from the ground up to work together. The Gigabite MB that comes custom made for the Xbox.   A good comparison is the graphics between cross platform games such as  fall out 3 which looks it's best on PC ( no surprise)  but closely followed by the 360 which had a longer depth of field (approx 4 mile) with out the use of fogging while still holding a steady 60fps . The 360 also had better reflections and shading while also benefiting  from crisper edges and deeper colours .
          The PS3 version had less detailed textures , no  true reflections in the water  and only a 1.5 mile depth before the horizon "fog" obscured the view. Ps3 version also suffers with choppy frame rate in times of intense battle , washed out colour pallets , less smooth textures and lines . PS3 suffers from being Blueray  disc instead of HDDVD . Blueray actually stores less information per disc for games due  to the huge memory demands made . This emplanes the downgrade in graphics  and smaller size of the maps compared to the Xbox and PC  versions.  PS3 also has a bigger heat and noise issues of it's own .  That's not just my experience but also reported by places such as gamespot
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 15, 2011, 07:09:52 AM
i hate to say this PS3 fanboys but looking at the spec sheets for PS3 and Xbox 360 , the 360 actually comes in with a better spec. Mostly down to the CPu (which is AMD ) and the GC (which is ATI) that were deigned from the ground up to work together. The Gigabite MB that comes custom made for the Xbox.   A good comparison is the graphics between cross platform games such as  fall out 3 which looks it's best on PC ( no surprise)  but closely followed by the 360 which had a longer depth of field (approx 4 mile) with out the use of fogging while still holding a steady 60fps . The 360 also had better reflections and shading while also benefiting  from crisper edges and deeper colours .
          The PS3 version had less detailed textures , no  true reflections in the water  and only a 1.5 mile depth before the horizon "fog" obscured the view. Ps3 version also suffers with choppy frame rate in times of intense battle , washed out colour pallets , less smooth textures and lines . PS3 suffers from being Blueray  disc instead of HDDVD . Blueray actually stores less information per disc for games due  to the huge memory demands made . This emplanes the downgrade in graphics  and smaller size of the maps compared to the Xbox and PC  versions.  PS3 also has a bigger heat and noise issues of it's own .  That's not just my experience but also reported by places such as gamespot

using multi-platform games to compare graphics between two consoles isent possable, as ive allready stated, most game companies will just design the game on the easiest console than just simply port it to the other console without improving the graphics to meet what that other console is capable of. you'd have to compare the graphics of exclusives. so compare halo3/reach to killzone 2. compare gears to resistance 1-2. compare forza to gran turismo 5. compare any of them towards uncharted 2. and you can see where the ps3's graphics outshine 360s. many famous gaming producers have flat-out said the ps3 is the better console. examples would be infinity ward,DICE, MAG,and even the creators of half-life have said the ps3 is superior to the 360. combined with all the other features the ps3 has over the 360 the only reason to get a 360 over ps3 is simply price.otherwise your just falling for microsofts false advertising claims.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: B3YT on January 15, 2011, 09:06:33 AM
 cross platform  is a very good way of comparing  consoles and PC's .    Games have to be re-written for each platform  and modified to suit. This shows where the powers lay. The PS3 is not that AWESOME. Most of the exclusives titles look good but are much shorter or less detailed than Xbox 360 and PC exclusive titles due the resource drain . A good example of this is GT5 . nice looking but it is poor  physics model for all the cars because they use a generic model then change small details for each car .   TBH I believe forza 3 looks just as good as GT5  and the car physics are better too.   

         I can't think of any "features" that the PS3 has that X box does not , apart form the blueray . But then i can get a Xbox for £140 and a blueray for less than £100 (with  7.1 surround sound)  . If i want kenetic for 360 then it would cost me £230 with console and 3 games  . so i would have blueray player and console  for £310 and a PS3 will cost me £299.99 (with one game ) + £150 for the  Sony version with the big blue ball thing . I don't think any one system is more "awesome" than any other but i do think the PS3 is way over priced for what it is .  A recent review in What HiFi that did a blue ray test said that the PS3 was not good as a blueray player  and that a cheaper £50 player was better quality .    PS3 is better for developers as they would not have to deal with Microsoft  for publishing. technically they are of the same generation (the PS3 was held back for almost a year due to "technical difficulties"  .   I looked all this up before I parted with my cash . 
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: B3YT on January 15, 2011, 09:15:34 AM
PlayStation 3 Specifications and Details

Product name: PLAYSTATION 3

CPU: Cell Processor

    * PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
    * 1 VMX vector unit per core
    * 512KB L2 cache
    * 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
    * 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
    * 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
    * * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

    * 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
    * Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
    * Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)

Memory:

    * 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
    * 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz





and

Xbox 360 Specifications:

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
      • Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each.
      • Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total.
      • VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total.
      • 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread.
      • 1 MB L2 cache.

CPU Game Math Performance
      • 9 billion dot product operations per second.

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
      • 500MHz processor.
      • 10 MB of embedded DRAM.
      • 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines.
      • Unified shader architecture.

Polygon Performance
      • 500 million triangles per second.

Pixel Fill Rate
      • 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA.

Shader Performance
      • 48 billion shader operations per second.

Memory
      • 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM.
      • 700 MHz of DDR.
      • Unified memory architecture.




 WOW huge difference   ......not 
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 15, 2011, 09:42:21 AM
PlayStation 3 Specifications and Details

Product name: PLAYSTATION 3

CPU: Cell Processor

    * PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
    * 1 VMX vector unit per core
    * 512KB L2 cache
    * 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
    * 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
    * 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
    * * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

    * 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
    * Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
    * Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)

Memory:

    * 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
    * 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz





and

Xbox 360 Specifications:

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
      • Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each.
      • Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total.
      • VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total.
      • 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread.
      • 1 MB L2 cache.

CPU Game Math Performance
      • 9 billion dot product operations per second.

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
      • 500MHz processor.
      • 10 MB of embedded DRAM.
      • 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines.
      • Unified shader architecture.

Polygon Performance
      • 500 million triangles per second.

Pixel Fill Rate
      • 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA.

Shader Performance
      • 48 billion shader operations per second.

Memory
      • 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM.
      • 700 MHz of DDR.
      • Unified memory architecture.




 WOW huge difference   ......not 

http://video.about.com/playstation/Sonys-PS3-Vs--Microsofts-Xbox-360.htm

like ive stated, i had 2 360s, both died of RROD. getting the ps3 was best gaming decision ive ever made.

what i find funny is how much spotlight "kinnect" is getting, sony was in the motion control buisness way before xbox or even nintendo was with the ps2 eyetoy. and ps3 beat all other gaming consoles to the market with motion control with the playstation eye.

everyone has there opinion, but until youve owned both(or all three) consoles yourself, then you dont have a right to say "this ones better, no this one is!".
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Old Sport on January 15, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
Doesn't seem likely, but who knows some day? Just loaded X Plane on my Motorola Droid X. Not much to it, but it is kinda fun. Six-axis controller on Droid X as on PlayStation 3. Pricey at $10 (most smart phone applications are free or around $5).  :airplane:

Wouldn't hurt for Aces High to investigate this market. Smart phones seem destined to rule the world along with home computer big screen and full size keyboard base stations.

Might be better if Hitech Creations, Inc. offered, in addition to AH, a different, similar, slightly simpler game specifically for Smart Phones, e.g. Combat Patrol, or something similar, and leave AH in its current configuration.

Best
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: spitfreak01 on January 15, 2011, 02:32:06 PM
rly? cus my ps3 is the $700 limited edition black 160gb ps3. thats alot more than xbox costs, xbox is more of the poor peoples gaming console. ps3 has voice chat/voice message,netflix(Was the first out of all console to get it) and hulu. and a web browser, which crapbox doesnt. plus ps3 has HOME. which is alot funner "charcter cusomization" than xbox live has. on live you just have a little dude who u dress up and shows on your pro card, cant do anything else with him. on psn HOME, the games like a mix between the sims&second life. you can take your avatar on there and play psn exclusive games,chat with ppl, buy house cloths etc. alot more customization than live gives you.and no. its not "worth it". you pay live to get the online options you'd be getting free with the ps3 and the web browser, wanna watch videos on youtube? or serf the internet? just open the web browser. its free and has alot more access than live gives you.
Oh yeah? i can just take my iphone and watch youtube or search the webbrowser at the same time i'm playing...
You can just like your ''PS3 Live'' but i think it doesn't improve the functions of the ps3...
Google: Ps3 Specs and thereafter: Xbox 360 specs...
Then compare it... you will see...
Other reasons:
The xbox 360 controller is much finer than the ps 3 has but only the arrow keys are CR@P
If you get a new hard drive, or you want to replace one, at the ps3 you have to unscrew things before you can do that, and at the xbox 360 you just click ONE simple small button *click* and you can just replace/place your hard drive.
AND it doesn't matter if the ps3 has more GB Ram in my opinion, it's too much... what you want to do with all those disk space?
AND, the PS3 IS actually for poor poeple... You know why? i buyed an iphone 4 and a freakin' super computer with 3 monitors, ATI Radeon 5790HD, Intel core i7, and a freakin' one terrabyte disk drive (1 terrabyte isn't too big for a computer...i download lots of movies and buy lots of very big games) and i just spended for all of this more than a thousand dollars... if i would buy a ps3, i would have only $500 in reserve only buying a new processor... i don't want to start a war with you or something, i just declare my opinion what the xbox 360 does and the ps3 hasn't and what you can get if you buy only an xbox 360.
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Pigslilspaz on January 15, 2011, 04:42:04 PM
Time to end this discussion.
Best Console of all time:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WrynUIkVu-Y/TA9SBPDhErI/AAAAAAAAAFc/H6Tq2JL8KFE/s1600/Nintendo_64.jpg)

also, if you don't like that, try this one really fun game. It's called RL, it's in 3D without using any special technology, the sound system is PERFECT, you never have to wait for lazy developers to patch mistakes they should have made before it was shipped, best of all, IT'S FREE.

also, they are coming out with a sequel
(http://nabeel.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/03/outsidemmorpg776685.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: Tyrannis on January 15, 2011, 06:09:15 PM
Time to end this discussion.
Best Console of all time:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WrynUIkVu-Y/TA9SBPDhErI/AAAAAAAAAFc/H6Tq2JL8KFE/s1600/Nintendo_64.jpg)

also, if you don't like that, try this one really fun game. It's called RL, it's in 3D without using any special technology, the sound system is PERFECT, you never have to wait for lazy developers to patch mistakes they should have made before it was shipped, best of all, IT'S FREE.

also, they are coming out with a sequel
(http://nabeel.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/03/outsidemmorpg776685.jpg)

i tried that game "real life". but they banned me. said something about breaking too many rules  :(
Title: Re: Aces High on Smart Phones?
Post by: B3YT on January 16, 2011, 03:44:57 PM
best console of all time ......Amiga 3d0. first console to use CD's .   then N64 for conkers bad furday