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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JunkyII on January 18, 2011, 07:57:41 AM
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Pigs on the wing has been testing out Vent that past 2 weeks, some like it some dont...I love it. The clarity compared to AH is just night and day but I do understand the downsides of using an external voice app.
The reason for this thread is to ask the community and HTC if they ever thought about improving the vox? And what are your thoughts on Vent/teamspeak compared to AH vox?
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I use vox everywhere. The Checkertails use Teamspeak in FSO, and vox if necessary. When I heard my squaddie on TS for the first time, I had no clue who it was. The in-game vox must compress the stream and change the pitch. You're right about the clarity, vox is a bit scratchy (or tinny) compared to TS. Both have their place, though; no reason to pick only one for exlusive use.
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The Mongrels have been using Vent for the past 2 years and I absolutely love it. The ability to have multiple channels, and to directly talk to someone, make it a great tool for a large squad during FSO or other events.
Since HTC upgraded the sound system I have been very disappointed with VOX in game. I guess my PC is to not capable of handling my old graphic settings and the new VOX requirements. The only way I can get good quality VOX in game is to turn down the graphic settings to almost the minimum. So instead I kept my graphic settings where they are (getting a mostly steady 60fps) and seldom use VOX anymore.No matter whats going on with my PC, Vent gives stellar VOX quality with no noticeable impact to running AH.
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I use vox everywhere. The Checkertails use Teamspeak in FSO, and vox if necessary. When I heard my squaddie on TS for the first time, I had no clue who it was. The in-game vox must compress the stream and change the pitch. You're right about the clarity, vox is a bit scratchy (or tinny) compared to TS. Both have their place, though; no reason to pick only one for exlusive use.
Radio back in the day was tinny.
Pure clear vox would take away from the immersion in scenarios.... my opinion.
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We have been implementing stage 2 of the sound change. That is implementing a new codec that improves voice quality. Included in the next version will also be a systyem checker that will tell us if the codec Vent uses is installed on all or most systems. If it is, we will be switching to the same codec as vent.
HiTech
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i just use the vox in game, and the only problem i have, is my own hearing sometimes........
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I'm with Baumer on this one. Takes a bit of getting used to but once you have vent down it's fantastic. I still use range and squad in game so I have a ton of options literally under my left hand.
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You guys are probably the last major squad to start using either. We use Vent also. Works fine, nobody has issue with it.
Pigs on the wing has been testing out Vent that past 2 weeks, some like it some dont...I love it. The clarity compared to AH is just night and day but I do understand the downsides of using an external voice app.
The reason for this thread is to ask the community and HTC if they ever thought about improving the vox? And what are your thoughts on Vent/teamspeak compared to AH vox?
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"How do I start my engine?" :noid
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We have been implementing stage 2 of the sound change. That is implementing a new codec that improves voice quality. Included in the next version will also be a systyem checker that will tell us if the codec Vent uses is installed on all or most systems. If it is, we will be switching to the same codec as vent.
HiTech
That's good to hear.
Pun intended.
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We have been implementing stage 2 of the sound change. That is implementing a new codec that improves voice quality. Included in the next version will also be a systyem checker that will tell us if the codec Vent uses is installed on all or most systems. If it is, we will be switching to the same codec as vent.
HiTech
Nice! :aok I like vent as well for sound quality but it can be confusing if your in a furball with people talking on range as well as another set of voices on vent.
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vent uses GSM 6.10 I believe,
On our server there are 3 different levels of quality, the default one is only as good as say teamspeak but if you put it on the highest one server side it sounds perfect.
In all the years of using it only Dadrabit didn't have the codec on his machine. GSM 6.10 should, by default, be on all operating systems from 2000 upwards. unless someone somehow removed them.
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"How do I start my engine?" :noid
Starting Procedure
Have prop pulled through, with ignition
switch OFF, if plane has been idle more
than 2 hours.
Generator and battery switch ON, unless
battery cart is being used, then battery switch OFF.
Open throttle 1 inch.
Mixture control in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Propeller control in INCREASED RPM.
Supercharger switch in AUTOMATIC.
Carburetor air control in RAM AIR.
Turn ignition switch to BOTH.
Fuel shut-off valve ON and fuel selector
valve to fuselage tank (if full), or Left
Main tank if fuselage tank not used.
Fuel booster pump on NORMAL, check for 8-
12 pounds of fuel pressure.
Prime engine 3 to 4 shots if cold, 1 to 2
if warm.
Clear the prop.
Lift guard on starter switch and press
switch to START. Caution in use of
starter not to overheat.
As engine starts, move mixture control to
AUTO RICH. If engine does not fire after
several turns, continue priming. WARNING:
When engine is not firing, mixture control
should be in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Warm engine at approximately 1300 RPM.
Check for constant oil pressure. If no
oil pressure or low pressure after 30
seconds, SHUT DOWN engine.
Check all instruments for proper readings.
Check hydraulic system by lowering and
raising flaps; loading 800-850 pounds and
unloading at 1050-1100 pounds.
Check communication equipment for operation.
Uncage all gyro instruments.
Check both LEFT and RIGHT MAIN and FUSELAGE
fuel systems by rotating fuel selector
valve with booster pump switch in
EMERGENCY. Check for 14-19 psi. If drop
tanks are installed, check fuel flow by rotating fuel selector control.
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vox issues I think are # 1 thing to be fixed.
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"How do I start my engine?" :noid
your not VoX lol
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I agree. We have this VOX guy in our squad and he always asks "how do I start my engine?" even though he's been playing for years. I told him to use "Alt-F4" but he won't. God he's annoying. He needs to be "fixed."
:noid
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Starting Procedure
Have prop pulled through, with ignition
switch OFF, if plane has been idle more
than 2 hours.
Generator and battery switch ON, unless
battery cart is being used, then battery switch OFF.
Open throttle 1 inch.
Mixture control in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Propeller control in INCREASED RPM.
Supercharger switch in AUTOMATIC.
Carburetor air control in RAM AIR.
Turn ignition switch to BOTH.
Fuel shut-off valve ON and fuel selector
valve to fuselage tank (if full), or Left
Main tank if fuselage tank not used.
Fuel booster pump on NORMAL, check for 8-
12 pounds of fuel pressure.
Prime engine 3 to 4 shots if cold, 1 to 2
if warm.
Clear the prop.
Lift guard on starter switch and press
switch to START. Caution in use of
starter not to overheat.
As engine starts, move mixture control to
AUTO RICH. If engine does not fire after
several turns, continue priming. WARNING:
When engine is not firing, mixture control
should be in IDLE CUT-OFF.
Warm engine at approximately 1300 RPM.
Check for constant oil pressure. If no
oil pressure or low pressure after 30
seconds, SHUT DOWN engine.
Check all instruments for proper readings.
Check hydraulic system by lowering and
raising flaps; loading 800-850 pounds and
unloading at 1050-1100 pounds.
Check communication equipment for operation.
Uncage all gyro instruments.
Check both LEFT and RIGHT MAIN and FUSELAGE
fuel systems by rotating fuel selector
valve with booster pump switch in
EMERGENCY. Check for 14-19 psi. If drop
tanks are installed, check fuel flow by rotating fuel selector control.
Thank goodness HT invented "E"............. :aok
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Thank goodness HT invented "E"............. :aok
yeppers.
i couldn't resist though. :devil
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I agree. We have this VOX guy in our squad and he always asks "how do I start my engine?" even though he's been playing for years. I told him to use "Alt-F4" but he won't. God he's annoying. He needs to be "fixed."
:noid
lol he always gets a few don't he? everytime i see him do that i get a chuckle and salute him, he chuckles back
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We have been implementing stage 2 of the sound change. That is implementing a new codec that improves voice quality. Included in the next version will also be a systyem checker that will tell us if the codec Vent uses is installed on all or most systems. If it is, we will be switching to the same codec as vent.
HiTech
That's awesome news! I'm really glad there's gonna be something more to this Miles SS soon... I think the community overall has had a less-than satisfactory experieince with the Miles SS, either in its original implementation or its current state (some complain it gives their system a hick-up occasionaly, personaly I've never been satisfied with its vox quality).
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TFC still uses AH vox...I wish it was a little more scratchy like in the 40s. But hey thats just me.
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vent uses GSM 6.10 I believe,
On our server there are 3 different levels of quality, the default one is only as good as say teamspeak but if you put it on the highest one server side it sounds perfect.
In all the years of using it only Dadrabit didn't have the codec on his machine. GSM 6.10 should, by default, be on all operating systems from 2000 upwards. unless someone somehow removed them.
Both Teamspeak and Vent have the ability to change the sound quality. Since Teamspeak 3, both are very competitive in sound quality. However, I'd put TS3 above Vent in functionality for sure.
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If I can plug a feature request here instead of the other forum, how about a "multiplexing" (or whatever the correct word is) feature that, when over 4 people are talking at once, AH doesn't queue them up, but just plays each person's vox message over each other. That way when someone takes the town and 20 people are yelling "grats good job everyone" simultaneously we don't have to listen to it for the next two minutes :rolleyes:
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Pigs on the wing has been testing out Vent that past 2 weeks, some like it some dont...I love it. The clarity compared to AH is just night and day but I do understand the downsides of using an external voice app.
The reason for this thread is to ask the community and HTC if they ever thought about improving the vox? And what are your thoughts on Vent/teamspeak compared to AH vox?
The Few have been using Vent for the past 6 or so years now, it's the most important item any clan/squad/guild should have. I don't see how anyone could not like using it!
You guys are probably the last major squad to start using either. We use Vent also. Works fine, nobody has issue with it.
I'm pretty sure Army of Muppets don't use either.
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The Few have been using Vent for the past 6 or so years now, it's the most important item any clan/squad/guild should have. I don't see how anyone could not like using it!
I'm pretty sure Army of Muppets don't use either.
Some of the Pigs dont like it!!! Im in the same boat as you...I think they just dont want to deal with getting it set up and such....., no vox lag, crystal clear voice transmissions....loads of stuff
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I use it for other games and clans but not in AH, kinda pointless.
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I use it for other games and clans but not in AH, kinda pointless.
Not really.
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The only thing I dont like about TS is your not always sure who's talking and all you americans sound alike. :bolt:
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Vent helps a lot in KOTH.
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Vent helps a lot in KOTH.
Do you know this from experience?
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Not really.
Trust me. In FSO I have TS3 and vox on, it's a pain in the ass.
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Downside, bandwidth hog (at least for dialup)
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The only thing I dont like about TS is your not always sure who's talking and all you americans sound alike. :bolt:
There are plug-ins for TS3 that will put an overlay text of the person who is talking over the game.
Trust me. In FSO I have TS3 and vox on, it's a pain in the ass.
I hated it at first as well, but when I got used to it, it proved SO SO useful when the VOX buffer filled up and check sixes got REALLY delayed.
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Trust me. In FSO I have TS3 and vox on, it's a pain in the ass.
I use it in the MA....no problems
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Trust me. In FSO I have TS3 and vox on, it's a pain in the ass.
It's only a pain when everyone first spawns. Seems some people can't STFU and have chronic diarrhea of the mouth. Once we're on our routes and get away from them, TS plus AHVox is a good thing. Makes squad coordination comms lots easier if we can have one guy tune the other squad's vox and he can still communicate with us via TS.
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been a vent user since 2000 - TS stinks :)
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Both Teamspeak and Vent have the ability to change the sound quality. Since Teamspeak 3, both are very competitive in sound quality. However, I'd put TS3 above Vent in functionality for sure.
TS3 is finally out? :D OK, seriously, I'll have to get around to checking it out.
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Used to be a program for TS that adds simulated noise to it. Makes it sound like real VHF and sych.
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TS3 is finally out? :D OK, seriously, I'll have to get around to checking it out.
Technically, its still in open beta. However, its been in open beta for so long, they might as well call it a release candidate. Give it a look for sure, they did a pretty good job, if you ask me.
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I really like Teamspeak. Much clearer and has many capabilities such as being able to adjust other individuals volume. I have my stick top buttons set for ACH's channel, range and teamspeak so I have all choices at thumbs reach
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Thank goodness HT invented "E"............. :aok
I would love to see this level of complexity in the game. I wonder how many people would make it through
500 feet after takeoff without over boosting or blowing an engine...lol. Actually, all I really want are my
fire extinguishers to work in my buffs....