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Title: arena closing got to go
Post by: Digr1 on January 23, 2011, 01:17:19 AM
Arena closing at 2:10 am est. is a joke and needs to stop. When a country gets rolling the time runs out, I don't know who's idea this is but it should stop. Turns the game play into a waste of time. If off hour arenas are so important why are they at 850 cap and the prime time arena is split into to and time limit. Lets go back to the way it was.
We wont pick on you and say WE TOLD YOU IT WAS A BAD IDEA but we tried to tell you before you changed it .
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 01:24:21 AM
Yes please get rid of this off hours stuff  :pray
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: MachFly on January 23, 2011, 01:31:44 AM
I like it, before the change orange and blue arena had 40 people on each, that did not work very well.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: palef on January 23, 2011, 02:30:29 AM
It's been the single best improvement in game play in years for me. If it goes back to what it was, I seriously doubt that I'll continue subscribing.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: BiPoLaR on January 23, 2011, 02:49:15 AM
I think it sucks but, I could care less at this point.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Mirage on January 23, 2011, 02:52:55 AM
What was changed about the arenas?
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: MachFly on January 23, 2011, 02:58:56 AM
What was changed about the arenas?

The Late War Off Hours Arena


Quote from:  HTC Announcements
Starting today, we've making a change to the setup of the late war main arenas.  Instead of two around-the-clock late war arenas, we're switching to a system of four arenas that are available only at certain times.  There will be two late war prime time arenas, one late war arena for off peak hours, and one late war arena for Titanic Tuesday.  The prime time arenas will be open from 4 p.m. Central until 1 a.m. excluding Tuesdays.  The off peak arena will run between 1 a.m. and 4 p.m.  excluding Wednesdays.  Titanic Tuesday will now run from 4 p.m. Tuesday until 4 p.m. Wednesday.  These times are subject to adjustment as needed.  All other arenas are unaffected by this change.

Prior to an arena closing, there will be an automatic arena message broadcast 5 minutes before the change.  Once the change takes place, there will be an additional 10 minutes for players to land their sorties before the arena is evacuated.

Although the various late war arenas are only open during their allotted times, all the arenas are persistent and save all field ownership and damage states from the time they close until the time they open again.  For example, what happens on Titanic Tuesday will carry through to the next Titanic Tuesday.

We hope that players will find this system much better at adapting to the differing needs of peak hour players and off peak hour players and making the transition between the two better.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: zack1234 on January 23, 2011, 04:02:13 AM
Its a vast improvement :salute
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: lengro on January 23, 2011, 04:13:40 AM
It's been the single best improvement in game play in years for me.

+1
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Kazaa on January 23, 2011, 05:25:44 AM
It's been the single best improvement in game play in years for me. If it goes back to what it was, I seriously doubt that I'll continue subscribing.

This.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: guncrasher on January 23, 2011, 05:50:02 AM
we were just discussing this same issue the other night in the off hours arena.  people who dont log any more are the ones who were doing milk runs in an arena that had 20 people.  most of the guys are happy with the new set up.  more players more chances to actually fight somebody.  unless of course you are the vsquad.



semp
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: 5PointOh on January 23, 2011, 06:50:51 AM
Personally I think the times are part of the issue.  If you watch the arena population from 1pm EST till about 5pm EST, the numbers are huge.  350-450+ people on a small map.  From about 1pm till the lock its horde on horde combat.   I understand the theroy behind it all, it just needs some tweaks.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: oTRALFZo on January 23, 2011, 09:05:57 AM
The new system is fantastic!!
You have to keep in consideration the problems we had going on before and see what it fixed and picking the lesser of all evils in both situations.

Only gripe I have is that loosing track of time and getting into a great fight only to see that the arena is locking in 5 minutes kind of sucks. This is only a temporary inconvience because since everyone settled into the new system, popluations in both arenas have been really steady and have stayed like that the rest of the night.
The issues of map rotations is a double edged sword. Yes you will have a new map, but then the basetakers are whining that wars arent being won. The issues of resetting the maps are there because I think all 3 sides are getting consistant #s throughout the night. ENY seems to be an issue very few times since the new system and although you might see it once in a while, overwhelming #s on one side isnt the case as it was before. This in turn makes it harder for sides to roll maps because the fights are coming from both fronts.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 23, 2011, 09:43:02 AM
The new system is fantastic!!
You have to keep in consideration the problems we had going on before and see what it fixed and picking the lesser of all evils in both situations.

Only gripe I have is that loosing track of time and getting into a great fight only to see that the arena is locking in 5 minutes kind of sucks. This is only a temporary inconvience because since everyone settled into the new system, popluations in both arenas have been really steady and have stayed like that the rest of the night.
The issues of map rotations is a double edged sword. Yes you will have a new map, but then the basetakers are whining that wars arent being won. The issues of resetting the maps are there because I think all 3 sides are getting consistant #s throughout the night. ENY seems to be an issue very few times since the new system and although you might see it once in a while, overwhelming #s on one side isnt the case as it was before. This in turn makes it harder for sides to roll maps because the fights are coming from both fronts.

+++++1

The old way:  One arena with 4/5 of the people online, the other with 20 people split between three sides. 
No one could get into the "popular" arena.  Now, both LWs are pretty even.  Fights for everyone.

Solution to the OP's whine:  Points for taking bases off line and auto WTGs for killing drones.


wrongway
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Jayhawk on January 23, 2011, 10:00:50 AM
Doesn't really bother me at all, and as many have said, was a huge huge improvement for many of our European players.  Not only will it help retain those players, but probably attract new ones.  I suppose the time could be pushed back a little bit, the arena closing at 11PM Pacific time seems a little early for those guys.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: macleod01 on January 23, 2011, 10:23:45 AM
I'm a Euro guy and I will say without doubt, if HT scrap the Offpeak arena, I quit.

I was so close till they changed the situation. Now the game is fun again!

They change it back, they loose a customer who has been here for 5 years. I get the feeling I won't be the only one going.



Its their decision though
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: oTRALFZo on January 23, 2011, 10:40:44 AM
I'm a Euro guy and I will say without doubt, if HT scrap the Offpeak arena, I quit.

I was so close till they changed the situation. Now the game is fun again!

They change it back, they loose a customer who has been here for 5 years. I get the feeling I won't be the only one going.



Its their decision though
Dont think you have to worry about it going back to where it used to be.

Long ago when the ENY system was put into place, it caused an explosion of "I quit" threats. Once people get used to change and realize that at some point, the change will benifit them, then they are ok with it.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: macleod01 on January 23, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
I'm not worried. If they do change it back they will be shooting themselves in the foot.

I just get tired of the US guys saying 'CHANGE IT BACK' without thinking of how it will impact everyone else! I just thought I would speak out for a few euro guys.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: ImADot on January 23, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
You must realize that this game pulls in players from all over the world.  The world is not centered on US primetime, even though the "master clock" is at HTC in US Central time zone.  I don't play in LW much, but the solution they came up with to address the player numbers is, I think, a good one.  HTC has already said they will tweak things as needed (including the 50% town-down for captures).  They will not change things without giving them enough time to gather a good data sample.

My advice, be patient and deal with it for now.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 23, 2011, 11:48:08 AM
I do not mind the separated arenas for peak and off hours, it makes perfect sense.  What I do not care for is having the same exact map for weeks on end.  I'd like to see maps reset once a week regardless.  I say reset each server map the first cycle after Titanic Tuesday.  To me, AH has become far too much about capturing bases instead of fostering an environment for activity.  The horde mentality is stronger now than it has ever been and the %50 town down for capture has only helped the horde factor grow.



Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: 68ZooM on January 23, 2011, 11:59:36 AM
real tired of it closing at 11pm west coast time
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: 68ZooM on January 23, 2011, 12:26:15 PM
I'm not worried. If they do change it back they will be shooting themselves in the foot.

I just get tired of the US guys saying 'CHANGE IT BACK' without thinking of how it will impact everyone else! I just thought I would speak out for a few euro guys.

no worse than the UK guys threatening to quit till it was changed, some did, then they came back after they got there way, what are the west coast guys supposed to do, threaten to quit to cause it interferes with our flying time, how childish would that be, i just log off when the Arena locks, its real stupid to stop fighting  battles and leave the Arena
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: jamdive on January 23, 2011, 01:02:17 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: macleod01 on January 23, 2011, 01:04:48 PM
Major difference here between the US peak time and Euro peak time.

US peak time you have about 400 odd people. Don't know exact numbers, I'm never up at that time. Split it between 2 arena's, yea good. 200-250 people per arena with caps. You got good fights without MAJOR horde action. OK you have to CHOOSE what arena you go in, and you may not get in the one with your squaddies, but they could move to help you. Or you could go into the other arena and see if you can make new friends.

Euro Peak time. 100 people. Split between two arenas. 80 people and 20 people in LWO and LWB with caps. One arena you can't get in, the other you don't have anyone to fight. Even saying that the three countries in LWB are evenly split that means you get 7-7-6. That's fun? Only people that's fun for are milkrunners. No one else, cause you can't find a fight, specially on a LARGE map. You get 7 people, you need to fly 3 sectors to find one person.

US guys cried because they couldn't fly with their mates. I can understand that. Just. My squad has a lot of US guys. That means that before the Offpeak arena, I didn't have squaddies. If I did, it was maybe one guy who couldn't sleep. Now I can log on and find a few, because I know they're in the only arena.

The Euro guys cried because there was no point playing anymore. With 20 people, even in the arena with 100 people max, if you were lucky to catch the caps, The fights were few and far between. Personally, in my bias opinion, we had a much greater reason to cry. Paying $14.95 for a game where you were lucky to get a fight? Not my idea of fun. Then with the typical game style nowadays, you got HO-ed on the first pass! Fly 3 sectors because you saw a single Dar bar, then HO. Damn right I'd had enough.

You US guys get booted so the arena splits in two (Or back). Least when you log back on you know there is going to be people there. We never. It was money being wasted. As I stated I was on the verge of quitting because I was tired of logging into an empty arena. If the boot were on the other foot you can guarantee you would be in the same position. Since the change, I have logged on at least three times a week. Not major for the diehard players, but more than I have ever played. Check the stats if you don't believe me. If it gets changed back there will be nothing to keep me here, I may as well play offline. At least with the drones I can find more than one plane in the area!

Jamdive. I have just said I am happy playing now. Read above for the reasons. If they change it back then all the reasons I have for playing and I'm sure for many Euro players, will go.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: jamdive on January 23, 2011, 01:09:51 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: palef on January 23, 2011, 01:25:26 PM
At the time of day you're talking about, the squeaky wheel IS the majority.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SPKmes on January 23, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
See Rule #4 (by association)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Rolex on January 23, 2011, 02:41:01 PM
HTC might want to take a look at tweaking the off-peak hours to end earlier on weekends. There were about 350 people on one small map by 2 pm CST today (Sunday).
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Crash Orange on January 23, 2011, 02:42:35 PM
Four arenas is too many. Get rid of the separate TT arena and make it the same as LWO, the way it used to be. Better yet, get rid of LWOH and just close LWB between 1 a.m. and 4 p.m. CST.

I hear that the main problem with this is it makes the caps annoying for European players when they first kick in. Well, the caps are already super annoying for everyone and most especially after 11 p.m. or so CST when LWB is rapidly depopulating and no one can get in LWO. So the simple solution is, either everyone put up with the super annoying caps, or get rid of the caps. I don't see why one player's cap "whine" is any more valid than another's.

But four LW arenas is definitely two too many.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Crash Orange on January 23, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
Also, making the map rotation more rational would go a long way. There's really no excuse for having the same small map in both LWO and LWOH at the same time, and while NDISLES isn't a bad map, it's a terrible map to pack 500 players into, it just guarantees massive hordes because the fronts are so narrow.

I don't see why HTC couldn't implement a fairly simple but better than purely random system for determining what new maps come up. Small maps don't show up in LWO, huge maps don't show up in LWB, no map that is currently in use in one LW arena can come up in a second arena, maps don't reset to the same map with the countries shifted around, and ideally, poll players on map popularity and weight the probability so that popular maps show up more often than unpopular ones. And reset any map that goes 2 weeks without being won.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: lengro on January 23, 2011, 03:15:06 PM
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Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Threeup on January 23, 2011, 05:17:07 PM
See Rule #4 (by association)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Guppy35 on January 23, 2011, 05:48:01 PM
Ahh that dreaded silent majority again.  It's amazing how many disgruntled people there are out there that none of the rest of us see :)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: grizz441 on January 23, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
See Rule #4 (by association)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 05:54:49 PM
Ahh that dreaded silent majority again.  It's amazing how many disgruntled people there are out there that none of the rest of us see :)
lol a lot have tried coming to the forums but too many forum bullys
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: BiPoLaR on January 23, 2011, 05:55:34 PM
Does it really hinder your GV bomb tarding crusades all that much?
ut oh  :uhoh
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Guppy35 on January 23, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
lol a lot have tried coming to the forums but too many forum bullys

I've heard that often, but I sure don't see it.  If it's that serious, you'd think they'd stand their ground and the mob of posts by all these individuals would overwhelm HTC.  This is the forum for AH after all :)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Dadsguns on January 23, 2011, 06:03:40 PM
I still have not heard anything that backs up why it should not be in place, seems to me its helping a part of the community that used to not be able to play and now have a place at the table like the rest of us.  Whats wrong with that?  Last I checked their money was just as good as yours.

....  To me, AH has become far too much about capturing bases instead of fostering an environment for activity.  The horde mentality is stronger now than it has ever been and the %50 town down for capture has only helped the horde factor grow.

This statement has more fact than fiction unlike some other comments that have been posted.  
30-40-50+ NOE missions are becoming very much the common place, what raises your eyebrows is that the missions are nearly as large as the opposing side has in total population that has to defend against it.  

EDIT:
I failed to mention how much fun that is to be steam rolled like that.....  :bhead
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Jayhawk on January 23, 2011, 06:06:55 PM
It always seems like that silent majority is always really loud to one chosen person who speaks for them all. I think the silent majority only speaks to htc in the form of time played and money paid.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 07:12:46 PM
It always seems like that silent majority is always really loud to one chosen person who speaks for them all. I think the silent majority only speaks to htc in the form of time played and money paid.
So you are saying that the 15 or so different people that have posted to this thread (or any other threads for that matter ) are the majority?
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Jayhawk on January 23, 2011, 08:11:24 PM
So you are saying that the 15 or so different people that have posted to this thread (or any other threads for that matter ) are the majority?

I never said who the majority was.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: fullmetalbullet on January 23, 2011, 08:33:53 PM
Why cant they just do what world of warcraft does. have an oceanic server for the euros and the aussies and have a US server plain and simple. but thats just my personaly opinion.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Guppy35 on January 23, 2011, 08:39:06 PM
So you are saying that the 15 or so different people that have posted to this thread (or any other threads for that matter ) are the majority?

Apparently we're the only ones to care enough to take the time to share opinion :)

Still waiting for that silent majority to show up and share thiers.  If it's this much of a problem I think they'd be beating down the doors of the forum to howl in anger at the outrage! :)
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Threeup on January 23, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
Why cant they just do what world of warcraft does. have an oceanic server for the euros and the aussies and have a US server plain and simple. but thats just my personaly opinion.

No - We like playing with the yanks - end of story.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 09:00:32 PM
No - We like playing with the yanks - end of story.
You like playing with us so much that if they change it back you all are gonna quit lol    :banana:
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SPKmes on January 23, 2011, 09:03:23 PM
DMGod...just out of curiosity...Do you truly feel this strongly about the matter or are you just here to argue for arguments sake?......psst...best re read three ups post..bit of mistaken identity.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 09:12:10 PM
I HATE HORDEs I rather enjoyed going into blue mid afternoon (eastern standered time) and switching to the side that was getting rolled and ruining the padders good time. I loved that if I didn't like the gameplay or map in blue I could go to orange. I liked having an option now I have Titanic Tuesday everyfrickenday everyday it's the same map everyday it's the same fights ( I am aware that there are other arenas but what drew me to HTC was late war planes I don't like the ava don't really care for early or midwar and in my opinion the DA is a joke). So yes I am here (on forums) because I genuinely dis like this new setup. 
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SPKmes on January 23, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Cool ...just checking  :D..
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Jayhawk on January 23, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
GOD, would a map change at least once a week make a difference?
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Threeup on January 23, 2011, 09:30:09 PM
DMGod...just out of curiosity...Do you truly feel this strongly about the matter or are you just here to argue for arguments sake?......psst...best re read three ups post..bit of mistaken identity.

Thanks Tongs, but:

You can’t reason with the unreasonable or rationalise with the irrational. Some just run around with a bag of rocks trying to put them into other people’s shoes. DMGOD is the archetypal troll who just jumps out to be noticed. If the squeaky wheel got the most oil you could dump him off the south coast of Florida and solve 50 upcoming years of environmental oil spillage – he could sop it all up with barely enough left over to oil your nail clippers.
He didn’t answer the question though – did he?

I like the new arena set-ups as do most of the crew I’ve spoken to who are on at the same time as me. Obviously I can’t talk to those that aren’t on at the same time because – guess what? They’re not on. I mistakenly thought I could have an opinion and from most of the origins of posts  in here most people outside mainland USA like the alterations to the arenas. I actually think a lot from mainland USA like them as well, but maybe they don’t feel the need to say so.

The server is in Texas, the game originates from Texas so, to a large extent, that dictates numbers and times – that’s life. If the powers that be feel the need to alter things it’s their prerogative. Vote with the magic 16 numbers on your credit card if it upsets you that much – just get on with it. I post and view these posts to get opinions and discuss things about the game. If they shut the servers down I wouldn’t be able to play. For me they could reduce it back to “duelling C-47’s” before I would stop  - that’s my $0.02.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: fullmetalbullet on January 23, 2011, 09:32:27 PM
No - We like playing with the yanks - end of story.

i didnt seem that way in world war 2 after we got the P-51 lol jk jk jk

and it would mostly stop much of the whining for the most part atleast.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Thanks Tongs, but:


He didn’t answer the question though – did he?

I HATE HORDEs I rather enjoyed going into blue mid afternoon (eastern standered time) and switching to the side that was getting rolled and ruining the padders good time. I loved that if I didn't like the gameplay or map in blue I could go to orange. I liked having an option now I have Titanic Tuesday everyfrickenday everyday it's the same map everyday it's the same fights ( I am aware that there are other arenas but what drew me to HTC was late war planes I don't like the ava don't really care for early or midwar and in my opinion the DA is a joke). So yes I am here (on forums) because I genuinely dis like this new setup. 

reading isn't one of your strong points is it? I beieve I answered his question way prior to ur post. Guess ur the one looking for attention



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Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Threeup on January 23, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
He didn’t answer the question though – did he?

reading isn't one of your strong points is it? I beieve I answered his question way prior to ur post. Guess ur the one looking for attention





The second part of Tongs post? I can read fairly well and usually finish a sentence when I read.

You took my quote about objecting to 2 servers in which I said I liked playing with US crew and said this thread was populated with threats to quit. Tongs suggested you re-read it as you had referred to me threatening to quit – which I never would. Why would I quit? Or even threaten to? Good times.

Stay on topic.

 The alterations to the arenas were announced and I’m fitting in with them. I like them and to my recollection blitzkrieg was a bit of a horde anyway in its time. I don’t think Eisenhower or Churchill had the benefit of posting on a BBS though. They just got on with it. Isn’t it supposed to be a realistic simulation? Put on your generals hat and solve the problem to win the war.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 23, 2011, 10:00:56 PM
The second part of Tongs post? I can read fairly well and usually finish a sentence when I read.

You took my quote about objecting to 2 servers in which I said I liked playing with US crew and said this thread was populated with threats to quit. Tongs suggested you re-read it as you had referred to me threatening to quit – which I never would. Why would I quit? Or even threaten to? Good times.

Stay on topic.

 The alterations to the arenas were announced and I’m fitting in with them. I like them and to my recollection blitzkrieg was a bit of a horde anyway in its time. I don’t think Eisenhower or Churchill had the benefit of posting on a BBS though. They just got on with it. Isn’t it supposed to be a realistic simulation? Put on your generals hat and solve the problem to win the war.

well princess this isn't actually wwII but I guess with ur stats I can see why U hide in the hoarde or bliztkrieg whatever you crazy kids are calling it these days
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Threeup on January 23, 2011, 10:53:49 PM
well princess this isn't actually wwII but I guess with ur stats I can see why U hide in the hoarde or bliztkrieg whatever you crazy kids are calling it these days

a)   I thought it was about WW2. Are we playing the same game?

b)   200lb princess – not a pretty sight. Without too fine a point on it with your avatar I wouldn’t be using the term princess too much to me. Gets me a little nervous.

c)   My smiles are my K/D, my squaddies are my assists, my enjoyment is my perk points.  What’s my score got to do with anything?

d)   No those wacky Nazis invented the term Blitzkrieg way before me champ.

Stay on topic and try not to spray insults.

I seem to notice a lot of shift workers from mainland USA seem to like the new arenas as well. It probably is good having the same sort of interaction as someone playing in USA prime time although the maps seem to be up a long time.

Mate you can carry this on with PM and not clog this BBS up. I would prefer that if you insist. Stay on topic.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: harpermc on January 24, 2011, 08:58:30 AM
This whole arena switch is a pain in the butt.

1) the times the arena changes are greatly annoying.

2) all you get right now is being vulched on the runway because the map is too small, and you have 30+ people vulching the base. then they take the base and do it all over again. and some wiseguy will say, go to a different base come in with alt. hard to do when your country is stuck with 8 bases and 3-8 are being horded 4 of the 8 are either a port or a v base. and the only ones that aren't being over run are two sectors away and the only reason they aren't being overrun is because they can't be captured. you also have a port with no CV.

which will open the topic; switch sides! Well frankly one shouldn't need to switch sides because the game play sucks.


A suggestion for off hours and peak hours, since anything we gripe about doesn't do squat. CHANGE THE MAP!!! please don't put the same map on off hours and peak hours.

seriously pondering to stop play this game. i left once, came back thinking it changed....well it did for the worse.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: zack1234 on January 24, 2011, 09:03:43 AM
The new areana set up benefits Europeans :old:

And as we all know the best sticks and players are European :banana:
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: 68ZooM on January 24, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
The new areana set up benefits Europeans :old:

And as we all know the best sticks and players are European :banana:

 good they can pay my 14.95, best at clearing 12's is all
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: DMGOD on January 24, 2011, 10:00:58 AM
The new areana set up benefits Europeans :old:

And as we all know the best sticks and players are European :banana:
edit : And as we all know the best NOSE PICKERS are European  :banana:
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Zoney on January 24, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
I like it.  I think it is better.  I am especially happy that the change retained the euro players whom I very much enjoy playing with.  Their inclusion, and hearing the varied accents really add to the intercontinental flavor of the game.  And if DMGOD does not like it, even better I figure.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 11:40:59 AM
It's all about the fights. The game is about the fights.

If your in a fight it is working.


The game has little to do with capturing....... except to start more fights.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: grizz441 on January 24, 2011, 12:30:30 PM
The game has little to do with capturing....... except to start more fights.

Says who?

Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: doc1kelley on January 24, 2011, 12:59:01 PM
It's all about the fights. The game is about the fights.

If your in a fight it is working.


The game has little to do with capturing....... except to start more fights.

Well Shuff,  I agree with ya but then I have to go a little over the hill here... It is beginning to sound like some of the membership just want "FIGHT CLUB", ya know you can't talk about it and you shouldn't think about it but the game is being pointed to that place that we don't talk about or at least, shouldn't talk about.  We should just call it "The AH Fighters Club", so there... it's out in the open and we should all talk about it as it shouldn't be a secret anymore.  Well if you don't get it now, ya just won't ever get it! :x

All the Best...

   Jay
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Digr1 on January 24, 2011, 01:15:53 PM
It's all about the fights. The game is about the fights.

If your in a fight it is working.


The game has little to do with capturing....... except to start more fights.

your wrong on that, the game is about capturing bases, if were just about fights there wouldn't be a DA since the DA is just about fights. The Main arena is about capturing bases. Lets not forget this is a game, the object is winning. How do you win you TAKE BASES. if all you want to do is fight go hang out in the DA
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 01:17:44 PM
Well Shuff,  I agree with ya but then I have to go a little over the hill here... It is beginning to sound like some of the membership just want "FIGHT CLUB", ya know you can't talk about it and you shouldn't think about it but the game is being pointed to that place that we don't talk about or at least, shouldn't talk about.  We should just call it "The AH Fighters Club", so there... it's out in the open and we should all talk about it as it shouldn't be a secret anymore.  Well if you don't get it now, ya just won't ever get it! :x

All the Best...

   Jay


 :rofl
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: vafiii on January 24, 2011, 01:20:53 PM
The off hour arena is better than splitting up 2 LW arenas as there are now more people in off hour. The problem is with the LW arenas. Splitting the 2 arenas during peak hours typically leaves only 200 players in each arena. This is not enough players for these arenas. I find myself looking for fights half the time or spending too much time flying around looking at scenery. The time has come to combine all 4 WW2 arenas into one or at least extend off hours arena. Friday night should be a peak time, however, there was squad ops or something going on in special events arena with 300 players participating. This left LW arenas with less than 200 players and not much action. Why not have off peak arena open during special events?
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 01:21:11 PM
your wrong on that, the game is about capturing bases, if were just about fights there wouldn't be a DA since the DA is just about fights. The Main arena is about capturing bases. Lets not forget this is a game, the object is winning. How do you win you TAKE BASES. if all you want to do is fight go hang out in the DA

You win by fighting.


Otherwise there would be a lane for each player. When the bell rings each player would capture bases in their lane till the bell rang signaling that one player has captured the last base in his lane. Much like the little watergun setups at the carnivals.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Digr1 on January 24, 2011, 01:24:58 PM
You win by fighting.


Otherwise there would be a lane for each player. When the bell rings each player would capture bases in their lane till the bell rang signaling that one player has captured the last base in his lane. Much like the little watergun setups at the carnivals.

Wrong again, to win you have to have 90% of your own bases and 40% of enemy bases at least that's what HTC says. How you can get that by just fighting let us all know since you cant capture bases by furballing
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 24, 2011, 01:26:18 PM
Off ours arena is great but as mentioned just when the fun is at maximum the arena closes.

I haven't bothered to log in again after getting booted. Most of the times half of your squad / friends end up stuck to the wrong server afterwards.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SlapShot on January 24, 2011, 01:27:42 PM
your wrong on that, the game is about capturing bases, if were just about fights there wouldn't be a DA since the DA is just about fights. The Main arena is about capturing bases. Lets not forget this is a game, the object is winning. How do you win you TAKE BASES. if all you want to do is fight go hang out in the DA

Every time I "win" a dog fight ... I get 10 times more of a rush than I do when I see "You winz teh WaRz ... you have been awardz 25 p3rk poointz"
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Digr1 on January 24, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
Every time I "win" a dog fight ... I get 10 times more of a rush than I do when I see "You winz teh WaRz ... you have been awardz 25 p3rk poointz"

I'm glad it makes you feel good but its a game it not about feeling its about winning. After all that is the objective
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SPKmes on January 24, 2011, 01:31:13 PM
 :headscratch: fighting....I'm pretty sure that more than furballing falls under this category  :bolt:
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SlapShot on January 24, 2011, 01:41:33 PM
I'm glad it makes you feel good but its a game it not about feeling its about winning. After all that is the objective

My objective is to beat every opponent (win) that I run into ... that's the game that I play. Point being ... there is more than just 1 "game/objective" in this game and one is no more important than the other.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: grizz441 on January 24, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
It's all about the fights. The game is about the fights.

If your in a fight it is working.


The game has little to do with capturing....... except to start more fights.

your wrong on that, the game is about capturing bases, if were just about fights there wouldn't be a DA since the DA is just about fights. The Main arena is about capturing bases. Lets not forget this is a game, the object is winning. How do you win you TAKE BASES. if all you want to do is fight go hang out in the DA

You guys are both equally right, and wrong...
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: BiPoLaR on January 24, 2011, 01:55:14 PM
Look, this is the way it is. HT does things cause he wants to. We can cry about it all day long but, that isn't going to do anything except make us look like tards. He does what he wants, when he wants and how he wants. Get over it, It isn't going to change. This is his game and we play it his way. We are told what arena to fly in, what to fly and who to fly for. The sooner you except this, the less whines we all have to read on the BBS.

Thanks and come again
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: SPKmes on January 24, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
Look, this is the way it is. HT does things cause he wants to. We can cry about it all day long but, that isn't going to do anything except make us look like tards. He does what he wants, when he wants and how he wants. Get over it, It isn't going to change. This is his game and we play it his way. We are told what arena to fly in, what to fly and who to fly for. The sooner you except this, the less whines we all have to read on the BBS.

Thanks and come again

Ok..Ok  who are you? and what have you done will BiPolar?
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Soulyss on January 24, 2011, 01:59:32 PM
My interpretation of the "object" of the game is that it is about fighting, the mistake is when the definition of fighting is pigeon holed into one particular example.   The game is at it's most successful when PvP fighting/conflict can occur easily, whether the result of that fighting is a plane being shot down, a base being captured, a GV going "boom", or a failed intercept and buildings being bombed is less relevant.

 
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 02:49:48 PM
Wrong again, to win you have to have 90% of your own bases and 40% of enemy bases at least that's what HTC says. How you can get that by just fighting let us all know since you cant capture bases by furballing

Ahh I failed to account for those that look for bases with no defense and sneak it. "Milking" Thanks for pointing that out.

Other than that you have to fight to take a base.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Hap on January 24, 2011, 02:51:15 PM
I love the single arena.  When it closes, oh well.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
My objective is to beat every opponent (win) that I run into ... that's the game that I play. Point being ... there is more than just 1 "game/objective" in this game and one is no more important than the other.

^^^^ gets it :D
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Solar10 on January 24, 2011, 03:00:33 PM
Doesn't really bother me at all, and as many have said, was a huge huge improvement for many of our European players.  Not only will it help retain those players, but probably attract new ones.  I suppose the time could be pushed back a little bit, the arena closing at 11PM Pacific time seems a little early for those guys.

This time is another wife ack.  It gives another reason to stop playing and go to bed.  Either pull it forward or push it out.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: ink on January 26, 2011, 01:51:00 AM
I know im a bit late on this and I wassnt gonna say squat but I just have to,the game is about COMBAT In the air,on the land,on the sea,the whole win the war,base taking was added to promote combat,it is NOT a WW2 sim,it is a COMBAT sim using WW2 craft,(and a bit of WW1)plain and simple.If it was to emulate  WW2 there would be no all planes open to all sides,what the hell is so hard to understand about that?Many people find enjoyment in all aspects of the game,many people are here just for the Air COMBAT,which is what it was origanally about,Hence the name ACES HIGH..that has expanded to enclude GV's,(were GV's part of the original AH?)A "war" aspect ,all have been encluded for more flavors of what?Can we say COMBAT...those who think its only about winning the war are wrong.period, its about...one more time..COMBAT using WW2 craft.I wonder if Hitech knew what he was getting into by adding the whole"war"aspect,would he have still have done it.personaly I think that was what started the rift in players.
Title: Re: arena closing got to go
Post by: Ardy123 on January 26, 2011, 02:16:10 AM
I like it, before the change orange and blue arena had 40 people on each, that did not work very well.
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