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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: kilo2 on January 23, 2011, 09:30:07 AM
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http://www.mediafire.com/?bxb95cxx7p9qc1y
At the top of this rope what is this called? Does it have name?
I do this fairly regularly to squeeze out every inch of energy and this gives you a bit of time at the top to wait for the con to stall. I just have no idea if its real move or not.
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I love it when they bite like that!
:salute
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I don't know of any specific name for it. I would describe it as "zoom straight up until you stop and fall down".
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It'a called a"Very sloppy hammerhead" :neener:
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It'a called a"Very sloppy hammerhead" :neener:
If there was an intent to perform a hammerhead I would agree. :D
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Its the Sukov maneuver....kind of like the Picard maneuver but not quite as BA.
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"The Sitting Duck"
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"The Sitting Duck"
True you are a sitting duck at the top. But I am not playing the vertical game unless I am sure I have all the cons either co alt or lower unless I have squad mates around.
I rarely get shot down doing it.
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I don't know of any specific name for it. I would describe it as "zoom straight up until you stop and fall down".
There is control inputs to keep it from falling tall straight down it seems like it could be a real move but I just dont know.
And to be honest half the crap I do I could not tell you the name of.
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Even if you started with a tail slide it would flip around on it's own. If you try to maintain a tailslide I think you'll find it's pretty difficult.
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I think it's really called "uncontrolled flight" at 34 MPH I doubt that the control surfaces had much of an effect. Had the 51 pilot had some luck with his shots, it may have ended differently. I disagree that it was a hammerhead. As you were holding right rudder and the nose was moving left which just shows how ineffective the controls were.
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I think it's really called "uncontrolled flight" at 34 MPH I doubt that the control surfaces had much of an effect. Had the 51 pilot had some luck with his shots, it may have ended differently. I disagree that it was a hammerhead. As you were holding right rudder and the nose was moving left which just shows how ineffective the controls were.
Well I diagree because if you do not do the correct set of control inputs you will stall out tail first instead of getting the nose down.
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Well I diagree because if you do not do the correct set of control inputs you will stall out tail first instead of getting the nose down.
The aircraft had an indicated airspeed of 34 mph, that's well below the power off stall speed. The controls had no effect even though they were fully deflected. That's one of two definitions of a stall. A hammerhead is not a maneuver performed below power off stall speed, but is accomplished at a point where the rudder has enough effect to rotate the nose of the aircraft form straight up to straight down, with no tail slide involved.
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The aircraft had an indicated airspeed of 34 mph, that's well below the power off stall speed. The controls had no effect even though they were fully deflected. That's one of two definitions of a stall. A hammerhead is not a maneuver performed below power off stall speed, but is accomplished at a point where the rudder has enough effect to rotate the nose of the aircraft form straight up to straight down, with no tail slide involved.
well I am telling you that I have done this several times and do the exact set of control inputs to pull it off. Do with that what you will.
I do not think its a hammerhead which is why I asked about it here.
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I think it's just that; a simple stall. Granted I didn't watch the video, but I can
imagine what you're describing. I've done the same maneuver myself on a few
occasions.
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A true hammerhead should have zero or close to zero airspeed.
The trick in AH is doing it without any rotation, go straight up, till it starts falling back, kick rudder, flip, and dive away regaining speed all under control.
P38 is best at it because of its lack of torque and huge control surfaces.
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A true hammerhead should have zero or close to zero airspeed.
The trick in AH is doing it without any rotation, go straight up, till it starts falling back, kick rudder, flip, and dive away regaining speed all under control.
P38 is best at it because of its lack of torque and huge control surfaces.
Stall Turn or Hammer Head
Stall Turn 1/4 loop (pull or push) to vertical, as momentum/airspeed decreases 20 to 30 knots, rudder is applied and the aircraft rotates around its yaw axis, the nose falls through the horizon and points towards the ground, a momentary pause is made to draw the vertical down line, and 1/4 loop to level flight. This figure is sometimes called a stall turn which is a misnomer because the aircraft never actually stalls. The manoeuvre is performed when the aeroplane decelerates through 20 - 30kts (more or less, depending on the aeroplane flown) from entry airspeed. The cartwheel portion of the hammerhead is performed with full rudder and full opposite aileron. Gyroscopic forces from the propeller during the rapid rate of yaw will produce a pitching and rolling moment and a degree of forward stick will be required to keep the aeroplane from coming off-line over the top. The yaw is stopped with opposite rudder while the ailerons and elevator remain in position, then once the yaw is stopped and the aeroplane is pointed down vertically, all controls are returned to neutral together. Although they can be flown left or right in any aeroplane with the proper technique, a hammerhead is best flown to the left with a clockwise rotating prop, and to the right with an anticlockwise rotating prop (as in a Yakovlev type), due to propeller torque/gyroscopic effects.