Maneuver Question

[kilo2]

http://www.mediafire.com/?bxb95cxx7p9qc1y

At the top of this rope what is this called? Does it have name?


I do this fairly regularly to squeeze out every inch of energy and this gives you a bit of time at the top to wait for the con to stall. I just have no idea if its real move or not.

[MickDono]

I love it when they bite like that!
 

[FLS]

I don't know of any specific name for it. I would describe it as "zoom straight up until you stop and fall down".

[The Fugitive]

It'a called a"Very sloppy hammerhead"   

[FLS]

It'a called a"Very sloppy hammerhead"   

If there was an intent to perform a hammerhead I would agree. 

[BillyD]

Its the Sukov maneuver....kind of like the Picard maneuver but not quite as BA.

[Blooz]

"The Sitting Duck"

[kilo2]

"The Sitting Duck"

True you are a sitting duck at the top. But I am not playing the vertical game unless I am sure I have all the cons either co alt or lower unless I have squad mates around.

I rarely get shot down doing it.

[kilo2]

I don't know of any specific name for it. I would describe it as "zoom straight up until you stop and fall down".

There is control inputs to keep it from falling tall straight down it seems like it could be a real move but I just dont know.

And to be honest half the crap I do I could not tell you the name of.

[FLS]

Even if you started with a tail slide it would flip around on it's own. If you try to maintain a tailslide I think you'll find it's pretty difficult.

[Traveler]

I think it's really called "uncontrolled flight"  at 34 MPH I doubt that the control surfaces had much of an effect.  Had the 51 pilot had some luck with his shots, it may have ended differently.  I disagree that it was a hammerhead.  As you were holding right rudder and the nose was moving left  which just shows how ineffective the controls were.

[kilo2]

I think it's really called "uncontrolled flight"  at 34 MPH I doubt that the control surfaces had much of an effect.  Had the 51 pilot had some luck with his shots, it may have ended differently.  I disagree that it was a hammerhead.  As you were holding right rudder and the nose was moving left  which just shows how ineffective the controls were.

Well I diagree because if you do not do the correct set of control inputs you will stall out tail first instead of getting the nose down.

[Traveler]

Well I diagree because if you do not do the correct set of control inputs you will stall out tail first instead of getting the nose down.

The aircraft had an indicated airspeed of 34 mph, that's well below the power off stall speed.  The controls had no effect even though they were fully deflected.  That's one of two definitions of a stall.  A hammerhead is not a maneuver performed below power off stall speed, but is accomplished at a point where the rudder has enough effect to rotate the nose of the aircraft form straight up to straight down, with no tail slide involved.

[kilo2]

The aircraft had an indicated airspeed of 34 mph, that's well below the power off stall speed.  The controls had no effect even though they were fully deflected.  That's one of two definitions of a stall.  A hammerhead is not a maneuver performed below power off stall speed, but is accomplished at a point where the rudder has enough effect to rotate the nose of the aircraft form straight up to straight down, with no tail slide involved.

well I am telling you that I have done this several times and do the exact set of control inputs to pull it off. Do with that what you will.

I do not think its a hammerhead which is why I asked about it here.

[EskimoJoe]

I think it's just that; a simple stall. Granted I didn't watch the video, but I can
imagine what you're describing. I've done the same maneuver myself on a few
occasions.