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Title: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 02:49:16 AM
How many of you have never had or have quit their facebook accounts?

I did last week. I got tired of spreading my personal info in Mr. Zuckenbergs advantage and starting to have internet ads stating 'this friend of yours bought this or watched this' crap.

I think Facebook is a wolf in sheeps disguise and most of the people do not realize what they're messing with. They're turning peoples social behaviour into a tool of control and business.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: bagrat on February 06, 2011, 02:53:46 AM
you know what they say, facebook is like jail. You waste time all day an get poked by people you don't know. The other day I nearly commented on a friends breakfast and said "whoa wtf"  time to :bolt:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 06, 2011, 04:27:29 AM
Never had, never will.  :aok

If I want to talk to something there is thing thing thing called a phone (you can also text with it), another useful tool is called email, they do a very good job. If I want to show someone my pictures I can email it to them, no need of posting all my pics so everyone can see it, same thing with the profile, if I want to tell someone what I like to do than I will, no need to show it to everyone. I also could never understand the point of showing everyone a list of all your friends, why does anyone need to know who your friends are?
And the biggest reason of all: waist of time!

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1155/futurevl.jpg)
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: trax1 on February 06, 2011, 05:52:50 AM
Never had, never will.  :aok

If I want to talk to something there is thing thing thing called a phone (you can also text with it), another useful tool is called email, they do a very good job. If I want to show someone my pictures I can email it to them, no need of posting all my pics so everyone can see it, same thing with the profile, if I want to tell someone what I like to do than I will, no need to show it to everyone. I also could never understand the point of showing everyone a list of all your friends, why does anyone need to know who your friends are?
And the biggest reason of all: waist of time!

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1155/futurevl.jpg)
The majority of people on Facebook have privacy settings set so only people who are already your friend can see the info on your account, so it's not like anyone can see your info, just people that are your friends, all the things you listed can be set to only be seen by them.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 06, 2011, 05:58:11 AM
The majority of people on Facebook have privacy settings set so only people who are already your friend can see the info on your account, so it's not like anyone can see your info, just people that are your friends, all the things you listed can be set to only be seen by them.

Yeah I know but I don't want all my friends seeing all my pictures. See what I'm saying?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 06, 2011, 06:03:45 AM
Yeah I know but I don't want all my friends seeing all my pictures. See what I'm saying?

You can prevent certain people from seeing certain updates.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 06, 2011, 06:09:50 AM
You can prevent certain people from seeing certain updates.

Did not know that, but still I just don't think it's worth the trouble. I was never in a situation where I thought "hmm I wish I had facebook right now", and I can't think of a single reason why it would be useful. 
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: oTRALFZo on February 06, 2011, 06:36:30 AM
You can prevent certain people from seeing certain updates.
Google your name if you have FB. All your info just pops up for everyone to see
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: FTJR on February 06, 2011, 06:44:08 AM
Google your name if you have FB. All your info just pops up for everyone to see

I tried that, couldn't find any info from FB, but i did find some aircraft photo's I posted on the net 7 or 8 years ago.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 07:08:31 AM
If you limit the info displayed on FB it kinda negates the purpose of FB. Then again, every other app you happen to click on in FB will sell your information to third parties that will use it for targeted advertising and who knows what else.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 06, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
Google your name if you have FB. All your info just pops up for everyone to see

Wrong guy came up.  :aok

What info are you guys putting on facebook anyway, your SS number?  I really don't care if someone searches my name and finds out I'm a college aged male, people seem to figure out that when I go outside too.  People I know and people I've met can go ahead and learn a little more about me, like I'm into guns, or I like south park.  :uhoh  Don't put anything on facebook you don't want people to know, taa daa.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Ghosth on February 06, 2011, 08:15:53 AM
Never been to facebook, don't figure on going anytime soon.

3 times in the last year my daughters computer got infected with a nasty bug, had to reformat, reinstall from scratch. All 3 times the only place she'd been was facebook.

That is warning enough for me.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
Wrong guy came up.  :aok

What info are you guys putting on facebook anyway, your SS number?  I really don't care if someone searches my name and finds out I'm a college aged male, people seem to figure out that when I go outside too.  People I know and people I've met can go ahead and learn a little more about me, like I'm into guns, or I like south park.  :uhoh  Don't put anything on facebook you don't want people to know, taa daa.

Most people put themselves into risk unknowingly, criminals can harvest clues for password cracking. Childrens or pets names, birthdates etc. Many people use those for passwords :)

They can figure out activities, daily habits etc. for burglaries and whatnot. Majority of women in Facebook accept invitations from total strangers just to boost their 'friend count'. Same goes for playing Zynga games etc. which will sell your information forward.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 06, 2011, 08:47:27 AM
Most people put themselves into risk unknowingly, criminals can harvest clues for password cracking. Childrens or pets names, birthdates etc. Many people use those for passwords :)

They can figure out activities, daily habits etc. for burglaries and whatnot. Majority of women in Facebook accept invitations from total strangers just to boost their 'friend count'. Same goes for playing Zynga games etc. which will sell your information forward.

Where is the line between blaming facebook and personally responsibility?  Don't put "Going on vacation!  Outta town for 2 weeks!!!" as your status, don't put your home address up, don't set your passwords as your pet's name!  Isn't this Internet 101? 
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 08:48:33 AM
Where is the line between blaming facebook and personally responsibility?  Don't put "Going on vacation!  Outta town for 2 weeks!!!" as your status, don't put your home address up, don't set your passwords as your pet's name!  Isn't this Internet 101? 


99.999% of people who live for facebook are still learning the first 2 of internet 101.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Lusche on February 06, 2011, 09:17:56 AM
How many of you have never had or have quit their facebook accounts?

Never had.

Though one day I suddenly got Facebook spam to my very private email dress. My wife had started an account there and inadvertently  allowed FB to scan her email contact lists   :bhead

10 minutes later her account was deleted  :D
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 06, 2011, 09:19:20 AM
Had one for 3 months.

Realized how ridiculous it was and deleted it.

Never went back.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Cheese on February 06, 2011, 09:31:29 AM
Dudes - lighten up!   :noid

Not any worse than having an email account.

I also think it's ridiculous how addicted some people are to it.  But it's also a great way to stay in contact with long distance friends.

As in all things internet, be aware of your privacy settings and exposure.

You can also block adds, prevent 'evil business' intrusions, etc.  A bit of reading and exploring in your profile will help.

 :salute

Cheese
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
Dudes - lighten up!   :noid

Not any worse than having an email account.

I also think it's ridiculous how addicted some people are to it.  But it's also a great way to stay in contact with long distance friends.

As in all things internet, be aware of your privacy settings and exposure.

You can also block adds, prevent 'evil business' intrusions, etc.  A bit of reading and exploring in your profile will help.

 :salute

Cheese

Lol! No you can't because app makers and ad makers do not follow even the specifications FB requires them to follow and sell your information. Haven't you read the news lately?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: trax1 on February 06, 2011, 09:53:33 AM
Lol! No you can't because app makers and ad makers do not follow even the specifications FB requires them to follow and sell your information. Haven't you read the news lately?
And just what type of info on a FB page do you think is so important it must not fall into their evil hands?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 09:57:12 AM
And just what type of info on a FB page do you think is so important it must not fall into their evil hands?

You can ask yourself what kind of secrets you speak on the phone. Yet the government needs a subpoena to tap your phone. What for? You got nothing to hide...
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: WWhiskey on February 06, 2011, 10:29:39 AM
Yeah I know but I don't want all my friends seeing all my pictures. See what I'm saying?
So you went to the trouble of posting pictures on Facebook but don't want to go to the trouble of deleting them? or just changing your settings?
sounds kinda like the girl who dresses up all sexy, with nearly nothing on, then tells all the guys,, DON'T LOOK AT ME!   lol
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 06, 2011, 10:30:25 AM
sounds kinda like the girl who dresses up all sexy, with nearly nothing on, then tells all the guys,, DON'T LOOK AT ME!   lol

That is exactly how I've always pictured Mach looking.   :neener:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 06, 2011, 12:00:05 PM
This is just one example of how your information can be misused: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110205/ts_alt_afp/usitinternetartfacebook

Getting split up with your girlfriend as she finds your picture on an adult dating site quoting 'looking for sexy adventures with an another male' lol.

Yeah, no perceivable reason for stopping someone from extracting your pictures/data :D
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 06, 2011, 12:27:02 PM
here are a few things about FaceBook and/or some things that happens to FaceBook Users


Dating website imports 250,000 unwitting Facebook accounts
article: http://www.neowin.net/news/dating-website-imports-250000-unwitting-facebook-accounts


Your Facebook status is now a company ad
article: http://www.neowin.net/news/your-facebook-status-is-now-a-company-ad


Naked on Facebook? Beware the Angry Dweeb
article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/217341/naked_on_facebook_beware_the_angry_dweeb.html?tk=rss_news


Facebook: Most blacklisted website 
article: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/217599/the_winner_of_the_most_blocked_website_award_is.html 


Facebook Gives Your Home Address to Developers
article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/216850/facebook_gives_your_home_address_to_developers.html?tk=rss_news


Social Networking: Blessing or Curse
article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/216958/social_networking_blessing_or_curse.html?tk=rss_news



just a few things to read up on regarding Facebook and Social Networking in general

I personally never gave FaceBook a thought... I did open a myspace  long ago, but stopped with it with in a month or two.... and never looked back...

I too, have continously had to fix problems with both my Daughter's PC's and a Niece's PC.. and frequently have to scan/clean my Mom's PC due to these social networking sites and how they trick you with different Java, Flash, etc ads and pop ups that people think is so innocent

Good Luck to those who think nothing happens.....

Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: rogwar on February 06, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
Have been on Facebook for maybe 2 years now. It has been great for keeping in touch with family/friends and leaning about lost acquaintances. I'm not a twitter type user and don't play farmville or such games. My privacy settings are set correctly. I never click on any of the commercial stuff either. I only accept I know or have known.

Not sure what the big deal is really. I've suffered no problems from my activity of facebook.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 06, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
but rogwar, you are one of the more savvy one's that know how to stay on top of your PC / internet browsing I would assume

today, everything is just click and go.. people ( most people ) take stuff at face value and do not think of the ramifications of the actions that may follow. or I mean results


edit: I was going to include an article that has been on the net for a bit. regarding  Google, myspace and facebook being in bed with the NSA and CIA... but that gets into the Religion/politics/gov area and I did not want to get this thread locked....

but anyone of you can go research it yourself, if it interests you......
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Dichotomy on February 06, 2011, 12:39:35 PM
had one

proceeded to get bombarded by people I haven't seen or talked to for thirty years

deleted it made one under an anonymous name

parents, thinking they were doing me a favor, sent an old acquaintance of mine the account so he could 'get in touch' with me

started getting bombarded agan

deleted it

never went back
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Raptor on February 06, 2011, 12:42:27 PM
The majority of people on Facebook have privacy settings set so only people who are already your friend can see the info on your account, so it's not like anyone can see your info, just people that are your friends, all the things you listed can be set to only be seen by them.
There are programs out there sold exclusively to businesses to get around privacy settings. Lots of kids not getting jobs because of something posted on facebook.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 06, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
There are programs out there sold exclusively to businesses to get around privacy settings. Lots of kids not getting jobs because of something posted on facebook.

and even Adults getting fired from their jobs because of things on these people's personal networking sites... which should have nothing to do with one's own Job or place of employment....
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 06, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
Every time this subject comes up I post this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT322GiT5lw

Everyone who says, "But I've got nothing to hide." has to think about the bigger picture here. To me Facebook violates certain principals and crosses lines that shouldn't be crossed.

Can't blame Facebook, can only blame it's users for helping to propagate data mining technologies.

Thanks a lot jerks. :neener:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: rogwar on February 06, 2011, 12:54:46 PM
I put some pics up of crappie I caught the other day. Bastards will probably try to sell my info to some jig maker.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 06, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
I put some pics up of crappie I caught the other day. Bastards will probably try to sell my info to some jig maker.

Ummm, you do know that fbWildcat has a fishing thread around here somewhere. I humbly request you release these crappie photos for the perusal of the Aces High community.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: 68ZooM on February 06, 2011, 01:47:01 PM
Had one for 3 months.

Realized how ridiculous it was and deleted it.

Never went back.

 go to there website type your old name in at the login screen, you think you deleted it but its all there still, i stopped FB over 2 years ago and once i read this thread i went there typed in my email address and guess what? " welcome back (insert name) to facebook, once you join they own all your info, anything you add they can share with the advertisers or research companies who pay FB for your info, nothings free on the internet
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: dimmu on February 06, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
How many of you have never had or have quit their facebook accounts?

I did last week. I got tired of spreading my personal info in Mr. Zuckenbergs advantage and starting to have internet ads stating 'this friend of yours bought this or watched this' crap.

I think Facebook is a wolf in sheeps disguise and most of the people do not realize what they're messing with. They're turning peoples social behaviour into a tool of control and business.

Never had a facebook, but recently decided to look up a few friends and see what they're doing. Found them, added them, said hello. The end. There's a reason why we never call each other up. Facebook isn't going to change that, just gives you the ability to stay in touch in the most passive way. I mean, the least one can do is call or see each other in person, it's infinitely more intimate. I think facebook drives people apart because they feel like they "talk" to someone, but it's just pixels on a screen. You cannot convey real emotion through :D

Do you think this is just the global trend? Before we had to go to someone's house to talk to them, then call, now we can just send an email or text. A lot of people have the same opinion, but doesn't seem like the majority. Basically everyone I know has a facebook!! Maybe 1/4 of them ever check it, though this is just the beginning of the digital age.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Cheese on February 06, 2011, 07:05:01 PM
Like I said - just a smattering of common sense goes a long way - don't put anything on Facebook (or in the AH BBS for that matter) that you wouldn't your righteous 90 yr old grandma to see...

And don't post your address, phone number, SSN etc. etc. on there either. 

I am much more paranoid about eBay and Craigslist than Facebook.

TC, all of the links you post fall under the 'common sense' category...unfortunately that's in short supply these days.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 06, 2011, 07:32:24 PM
TC, all of the links you post fall under the 'common sense' category...unfortunately that's in short supply these days.

yeah, except for a small minority, I think   "common sense" started becoming extinct right after the Generation X, but started showing the signs of being absent during that generation......  :D
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 06, 2011, 07:45:56 PM
go to there website type your old name in at the login screen, you think you deleted it but its all there still, i stopped FB over 2 years ago and once i read this thread i went there typed in my email address and guess what? " welcome back (insert name) to facebook, once you join they own all your info, anything you add they can share with the advertisers or research companies who pay FB for your info, nothings free on the internet

I know. I slipped up, and have changed all of my e-mail addresses and passwords.

Only thing left to do is change ISP address right?

I have the locals on the lookout for Gilman Louie.  :lol :aok
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: camnite on February 06, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
never had, never will. if i want you to know what i'm doing, i'll call you. if not, then its none of your business. oh, and the best part, i'm 21 years old and think for myself.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 06, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
never had, never will. if i want you to know what i'm doing, i'll call you. if not, then its none of your business. oh, and the best part, i'm 21 years old and think for myself.

Atta boy.  :aok
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Penguin on February 06, 2011, 09:02:48 PM
I have a Facebook, and I didn't even make it.  Some dirtbag made it and set the profile picture to a Latino male pornstar/bodybuilder.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 07, 2011, 01:42:28 AM
So you went to the trouble of posting pictures on Facebook but don't want to go to the trouble of deleting them? or just changing your settings?
sounds kinda like the girl who dresses up all sexy, with nearly nothing on, then tells all the guys,, DON'T LOOK AT ME!   lol

I'm saying I don't want all the people seeing all the pictures.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 07, 2011, 01:42:59 AM
 :rofl

That is exactly how I've always pictured Mach looking.   :neener:

wow, I did not know that I had such an effect on you  :neener:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: greens on February 07, 2011, 02:21:22 AM
I facebook all the time  :D  :(
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 07, 2011, 02:39:36 AM
I facebook all the time  :D  :(

Really?

I would have figured you for a smoke signal kinda guy. (We need a smoke signal emoticon.)

<S> Melvin
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: greens on February 07, 2011, 12:08:21 PM
Really?

I would have figured you for a smoke signal kinda guy. (We need a smoke signal emoticon.)

<S> Melvin
Yes sir i do facebook all the time. soon as i wakeup n when i goto bed. gotta lotta friends to keep tabs on and ditto for them.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 07, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Shuffler on February 07, 2011, 01:32:35 PM
Never had... never will.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: druski85 on February 07, 2011, 01:33:57 PM
Have been on Facebook for maybe 2 years now. It has been great for keeping in touch with family/friends and leaning about lost acquaintances. I'm not a twitter type user and don't play farmville or such games. My privacy settings are set correctly. I never click on any of the commercial stuff either. I only accept I know or have known.

Not sure what the big deal is really. I've suffered no problems from my activity of facebook.

+1, but been on longer.  I was initially hesitant, but eventually joined.  Pictures are the primary purpose, since I don't generally find myself emailing 6 MB pics to anyone.  I've got a photobucket account as well, but it is far less accessible for many people. 
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 07, 2011, 03:42:05 PM
See Rule #14

my apologies, I did not know that I posted ( copy pasted quoted ) something that was political, racist or religious..... I thought it was only to do about FaceBook being investigated and nothing more...... again I'm sorry..... I must of missed the Not Allowed stuff when I read that news feed....
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: moot on February 07, 2011, 05:15:40 PM
n/t
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Tyrannis on February 07, 2011, 05:58:06 PM
yes, it's been happening to my friends alot. most recent ones were  friends posting stuff like " omg brandon! what we're you doing in this video!?" then it has some random advertisement video in it.


and then there was one where my friends would i.m me (even when they arent online) telling me to go out and by this sweet new labtop. then it gives a link to the labtops home page.

then when i click on the box to ask them why there telling me to do this, they conveniently go offline again.



what ive noticed most tho, is that there is ALOT of sex bots on facebook.
put your status as single, and they will swarm you with invites.

some girl will send me a request, i'll add because it says we have like 3-4 friends in common. then sudden i get the i.m "hey brandon! like what you see? want to see my naked pictures? well then just click the link here!:[link] oh and have your credit card ready. because you have to prove your 18!" ive had 7 do this so far,  :lol wonder if they could get in trouble for sending these advertisements to underage kids. because i do know some who have recieved them.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Larry on February 07, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Google your name if you have FB. All your info just pops up for everyone to see

Nope.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: BoilerDown on February 07, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
I don't use my real name on facebook.  I use a nickname my friends know me by, anyone looking me up with my actual name won't find me.  I don't have it associated with an email address I use for anything else.  With those precautions in place, I don't see any harm in using Facebook for whatever.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Ruah on February 07, 2011, 08:56:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg

failface
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Murdr on February 08, 2011, 04:51:56 PM
No horror stories here.  A little bit of common sense goes a long way.  I get WAY too useful information on the local music scene to not use it.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Larry on February 08, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
I can get more information from the yellow pages or by googleing myself then I can from trying to look up my facebook account. I have everything locked so only my friends can see my information. Plus I have it set so only certain friends can see certain photos or posts. Seems the people that always complain about FB are the ones that have never used it or didn't take the time to learn how the settings work.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: mike8318 on February 09, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
Just quit mine yesterday. Got to the point where I never went there more than a couple of times a week.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: NormH3 on February 09, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
I can get more information from the yellow pages or by googleing myself then I can from trying to look up my facebook account. I have everything locked so only my friends can see my information. Plus I have it set so only certain friends can see certain photos or posts. Seems the people that always complain about FB are the ones that have never used it or didn't take the time to learn how the settings work.  :rolleyes:

quite frankly, the interface is not very user friendly. It's almost as difficult as learning the nuances of AH.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Tyrannis on February 09, 2011, 10:07:49 AM
Aces high has its own little facebook page.....  :uhoh
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Larry on February 09, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
quite frankly, the interface is not very user friendly. It's almost as difficult as learning the nuances of AH.

I found it very easy to use.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Sonicblu on February 10, 2011, 12:03:21 AM
It's sad but like most things it gets abused by the masses and over used, and will over time degrade.

I have a very good friend that is a computer programer and consults congress and the U.S. Govt. He says it's the most dangerous thing you can do online.

 Wake up your intellectually  bankrupt if you really think it has some social value. It is design to create income steams for the owners/creators and that is it. They have no problem stealing stupid peoples personal information because " most are to stupid to protect themselves"

Farmville alone creates more than 200 million in revenue  every year. LOOK who is really being farmed!!!  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: bozon on February 10, 2011, 03:41:29 AM
What's facebook?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: The Jekyll on February 10, 2011, 08:24:12 AM
Thus far I have found facebook to be a great asset. Like anything it takes a few minutes time to protect yourself which it seems too many simply assume is too difficult to do because they believe the falsehoods spread on the internet or lack the knowledge. We have exchange daughters all over the world and our children are scattered in several states. With facebook we can keep up on happenings, photo's, daily events, surgeries, significant others, etc. In the old days it took days of mail returns to keep up and frankly even sending emails to each and every one of them with todays technology is a burdensome task. So with this new technology of facebook we get to enjoy our family more than ever before and I am grateful.

Be smart and protect yourself and it is a good tool. If you don't use the asset do so because you simply don't want or need to. Don't do it because of baseless fear tactics that get spread out of ignorance.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Vulcan on February 10, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
Been 'hijacking' facebook accounts recently for testing purposes (don't do anything to do them except gain access). It's interesting :)
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: NormH3 on February 10, 2011, 01:05:12 PM
Been 'hijacking' facebook accounts recently for testing purposes (don't do anything to do them except gain access). It's interesting :)

regardless of what you are doing, I wouldn't get caught. I'm actually surprised that you would even post that here.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Sonicblu on February 11, 2011, 12:40:55 AM
Thus far I have found facebook to be a great asset. Like anything it takes a few minutes time to protect yourself which it seems too many simply assume is too difficult to do because they believe the falsehoods spread on the internet or lack the knowledge. We have exchange daughters all over the world and our children are scattered in several states. With facebook we can keep up on happenings, photo's, daily events, surgeries, significant others, etc. In the old days it took days of mail returns to keep up and frankly even sending emails to each and every one of them with todays technology is a burdensome task. So with this new technology of facebook we get to enjoy our family more than ever before and I am grateful.

Be smart and protect yourself and it is a good tool. If you don't use the asset do so because you simply don't want or need to. Don't do it because of baseless fear tactics that get spread out of ignorance.

How can you protect yourself when you gave them all your info. They are not trust worthy. They don't need to hack they can access your page at any time. The average hacker doesn't have the resources to use your info. They do.

Just wait until it becomes public how mr google started the revolt in Egypt. And how he knew he could.
If you had the conversation I did with my friend I guarantee you would think different.
Anyway  :salute the benefits don't out weigh the risks IMO.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: bigUC on February 11, 2011, 02:54:18 AM
Why give away all personal info to a company which clearly states that they will do whatever they want with it, and then worry about hackers?  Your information is just a businessmeeting away from being all over the net.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: phatzo on February 11, 2011, 03:10:11 AM
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Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 11, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
Why give away all personal info to a company which clearly states that they will do whatever they want with it, and then worry about hackers?  Your information is just a businessmeeting away from being all over the net.


Define "all personal info"
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: rogwar on February 11, 2011, 10:58:17 AM
Define "all personal info"

Yeah same here. Some company might be able to figure out I like beer and fishing.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Larry on February 11, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
Yeah same here. Some company might be able to figure out I like beer and fishing.

Watch out there rogwar. You might be asked to join a bass fishing tournament and have bud light sponsor you!!


"Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Facebook, and then Facebook goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money."


Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Jayhawk on February 11, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
I'm well aware that companies are using my age, gender, location, even my indicated interests from my facebook page to target their ads at me.  I guess that just doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: pirhana6 on February 11, 2011, 04:01:05 PM
I wish I could undo the fact that I ever went on face book in the first place. In my list of "friends", there are people I've never heard of, and cannot guess the mutual friend that caused me to be linked to these people.

A guy I worked with long ago recently posted "In chip shop waiting for 2 cod and a haddock. A jug of harvest pale waiting for us in the kings arms"  Yeah, I really needed to know that.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Motherland on February 11, 2011, 08:04:09 PM
I wish I could undo the fact that I ever went on face book in the first place. In my list of "friends", there are people I've never heard of, and cannot guess the mutual friend that caused me to be linked to these people.
Well, whether you requested them or they requested you, you decided you knew them well enough to confirm the friendship :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Tupac on February 11, 2011, 08:35:34 PM
I know an instructor who has an ad on facebook that he gets about half of his students from
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 11, 2011, 09:42:57 PM
I know an instructor who has an ad on facebook that he gets about half of his students from

It's good for business, it's bad for personal use.
A lot of businesses have a facebook. They use it as a free place to advertise stuff. 
What does he teach?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Tupac on February 11, 2011, 09:56:54 PM
What does he teach?

He's a CFI and does photo flights, and tailwheel endorsements. He also has a few PPL students
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 12, 2011, 02:34:32 AM
Basically logging in to facebook is a tradeoff between seeing totally unnecessary things from random people and bending over to every advertiser on this planet. I mean you go to a random website and you see ads that seem to know who you are and who your friends are? That's literally insane and it's only the beginning.

Facebook is the ultimate big brother. And it lured people to join it freewillingly.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: bigUC on February 12, 2011, 05:28:28 AM
Define "all personal info"
If you use facebook actively I would respond "basically who you are and what you do" - including contact info, age, residence, relationship, family, friends, workplace, former workplaces and schools, hobbies, vacations etc.  Isn't it enough?

 
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Cheese on February 12, 2011, 07:58:51 AM
If you use facebook actively I would respond "basically who you are and what you do" - including contact info, age, residence, relationship, family, friends, workplace, former workplaces and schools, hobbies, vacations etc.  Isn't it enough?
:noid
...only if you put that info on your facebook page.  In reality, most (if not all) of that info is already public knowledge anyway.  Do you ever order anything online?  Did you ever buy anything via catalog?  How about eBay, Amazon, Newegg?...LOL.  You give more info than that to get a credit card account.  How do all those evil businesses know which catalogs to send in the mail at Christmas?  Why do I get a Cabela's catalog every spring and fall?  It's amazing how they know all that info!  But I don't think it comes from Facebook.

As in all things related to security, you can go too far one way or the other.  Total isolation and live in a cave, or be completely open and vulnerable to every low life on the planet.  As I said before, a bit of common sense goes a long way.  
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: MachFly on February 12, 2011, 08:01:29 AM
He's a CFI and does photo flights, and tailwheel endorsements. He also has a few PPL students

cc
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 12, 2011, 09:13:50 AM
Basically logging in to facebook is a tradeoff between seeing totally unnecessary things from random people and bending over to every advertiser on this planet. I mean you go to a random website and you see ads that seem to know who you are and who your friends are? That's literally insane and it's only the beginning.

Facebook is the ultimate big brother. And it lured people to join it freewillingly.

Bingo, we have a winner.

Sign up now sheeple, after all you've got nothing to hide. Right?
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Motherland on February 12, 2011, 02:56:50 PM
seeing totally unnecessary things from random people
You mean my friends? People I see on a daily basis? People I enjoy conversing with?

I mean you go to a random website and you see ads that seem to know who you are and who your friends are?
Advertisers already know where I live just based on my IP address. There's absolutely nothing new here. I get ads for new Jimi Hendrix box set releases and flying schools instead of new Justin Bieber albums and Cosmetology schools...
The only weird thing is that Facebook seems convinced that I'm both a Zionist Jew and an Orthodox Muslim...

Herp derp the gov'ts gonna hunt me down based on the fact that I like 'Airplane!' and because they know that I know Miroslaw Grobinski when they already have access to my driver's license, birth certificate, social security number etc.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: trax1 on February 12, 2011, 03:35:13 PM
Just saw a news story online about a female paramedic who was fired after making comments on Facebook about her job, but the National Labor Relations Board heard about this and found that she was illegally terminated by the company for the postings, she ended up reaching a settlement with the company for being fired, so this will probably set a precedent that you can't be fired just for comments you make on Facebook because of free speech .  You can watch the news story here.

http://www.comcast.net/video/facebook-firing/1790785927/Comcast/1789214621/ (http://www.comcast.net/video/facebook-firing/1790785927/Comcast/1789214621/)   
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 12, 2011, 04:04:45 PM
When someone says "Big Brother", everybody's first instinct is to think of the government. Really though, who is big brother anymore?

To me, big brother is the myriad of corporations, individuals and groups (up to and including) the government that are constantly bombarding me with advertisements and generally trying to influence me away from my money and/or sanity.

They want to know us, and they want to know everything about us. Now, they've finally got the means to know all about us and the things we like. Of course they always attempted to, but now they don't even have to work for it. Just look at the charts that Lusche provides, and the amount of information that can be disseminated from them. Well, the corporations, individuals and groups have the same types of graphs going on, and are drawing a wealth of information about us from them. All based upon the various activities that we engage in on the internet (especially Facebook).

Well I say, "Screw you Ad-man. If you want to find out anything about me, you'll have to come find me."

I just lined my ball-cap with tin-foil and am headed off to the nearest fresh water spring with my family.

 :noid

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Motherland on February 12, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
Well, the corporations, individuals and groups have the same types of graphs going on, and are drawing a wealth of information about us from them.
Which is bad because...?
Honestly, I'm no corporatist, but there are much worse things that big business can do, and I don't see how mass advertisement is any better than targeted advertisement.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Melvin on February 12, 2011, 04:28:20 PM
Exactly Motherland, there are MUCH worse things that corporations can do. Like Ripley said, this is just the beginning.

I hate the fact that when I'm watching a good program on television, I have to see that stupid monogram in the corner. Like they think I forgot which station I'm watching. Then, during  the best part of the show, a couple of dancing idiots come across the bottom of the screen to tell me about the awesome new sitcom that'll be on Thursday night. Hooray.

Program's lengths are drastically reduced and magazine pages are consumed with advertisements.

Now we just give them all the info they want. Info is power.

Please Mr Ad-man, bombard me with more of your garbage. Here's the keys to my kingdom.

It's a snowball effect. And that sucker is getting big and heavy.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: trax1 on February 12, 2011, 05:35:04 PM
Like Motherland basically said, so what, if the info creates products that I'd be more interested in all the better, whats wrong with an ad company knowing what I like or what I'm interested in, wouldn't it just help to taylor products to my liking.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: mechanic on February 12, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
The thing I hate about Faceburk and MeMeMeSpace is that it negates the point of having friends in the first place. When I see my friends it's great to update each other on how life is going. Whats the point of even meeting your friends in real life if you are already 100% updated on their life via facebook. It's just another distraction keeping the flocks in their houses where they are not causing any trouble. Never will use social networks in that way.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: trax1 on February 12, 2011, 07:02:49 PM
The thing I hate about Faceburk and MeMeMeSpace is that it negates the point of having friends in the first place. When I see my friends it's great to update each other on how life is going. Whats the point of even meeting your friends in real life if you are already 100% updated on their life via facebook. It's just another distraction keeping the flocks in their houses where they are not causing any trouble. Never will use social networks in that way.
Well I don't know about you, but me & I think most people meet up with there friends just to hang out with them and do things together, not just to talk about what they've been up to.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Perrine on February 12, 2011, 08:19:48 PM
Facebook is the ultimate big brother. And it lured people to join it freewillingly.

I thought that title belongs to Google (especially when you're logged-in to gmail) :noid
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: FiLtH on February 12, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
 Facebook suffers from gayness of the anus and I will never take part in it.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Vulcan on February 13, 2011, 01:19:18 AM
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seriously phatzo if you knew what data could be mined out of people who use facebook you might change your mind. There's been evidence lately that some govt's keep an eye on facebook associations. Part of my job involves advising corporate/enterprise/govt users why they need to be careful in allowing access to social media sites and the implications.
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Sonicblu on February 13, 2011, 11:22:10 PM
They do mine data not just advertisers. Look at the CDC they can now trace flu outbreak from what people type in the google search engine. How does the CDC get the idea and then permission to use the data In the first place?
 
Title: Re: Quit facebook
Post by: Nilsen on February 14, 2011, 02:03:16 AM
Facebook is great if you know how to use it and how NOT to use it. I have found many old friends that i had lost contact with and I can follow the lives of family living abroad and they can follow ours. Clue is to set filters, not post junk or tag people in pictures and use fake phone numbers and addresses