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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: TOMCAT21 on February 09, 2011, 11:39:50 PM
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Are there any P40 sticks that have time to spare in the TA for some instruction ?
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I am far, far from an expert on the P-40, but I do fly the P-40E a bit from time to time (typically a couple sorties a week). If no one more qualified happens along I'd be happy to try and set something up.
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Thanks Soulyss, I'm trying to figure out what you and Del taught me in the 38. BTW, I would have bought you a new monitor had you shorted yours out. :D
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Am no expert my any means in any plane but I flew the P40E for weeks on end in the TA and some EW time.
I would say it is one of the best planes to fly. (Fighting with it is not quite the same thing).
Beautiful, balanced, strong and dives like a stone. A little more engine power would be nice.
I suggest you get it up high and build up your speed. Enter a fight from an alt advantage because you will need the zoom capabilities to egress up to a safe perch if your attack didn't kill/cripple your opponent.
The flaps are brilliant, you can drop the first notch at over 350. Just be careful to retract them as soon as you can. Keeping the kinetic e up in this plane is critical.
I had the convergence set to 225 (all guns) and used BnZ style of attack.
All the best TOMCAT. Have fun with her.
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You will find the E much more enjoyable in the MAs. The B is quite the challenge. For one, you're slower, climb worse, yet still have to get in closer to do damage with the .30cals. Getting in closer is hard when everything runs away.
Then there's the problem where they don't want to let you leave. I had numerous folks chase me down over TT/FT in a P-40B. Had to get some local cover to help me egress when I was rtb, otherwise I'd never have made it.
B is much more of a "I'm doing this as a personal challenge" type of ride. The E is rather pleasant, as Klam mentioned. With the .50cals, however, you can still reach out to 350 yards to pop somebody. Just note your ammo clip. Only slightly less than a P-51D. It's the same 267 rpg you find in historic P-47 loadouts as well.
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thanks gents, I would still like to get some time in TA with someone. Does Batfink fly P40 ?
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I'm sure he can fly it, but I don't really ever see him in it. It's not one of his normal choices.
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thanks gents, I would still like to get some time in TA with someone. Does Batfink fly P40 ?
You somehow have to pull 1Duke1 out of retirement.
- oldman
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I am not a p-40 expert, but i have a little time in the E model. Its very close to the 109 g-6, a bit better in downhill and a bit worse in uphill. Keep your flaps open and its just a nice ride. The only problem is how to catch the opponents.
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I don't think it's like a 109 at all. 109s are vertical monsters. You WANT to take them up and let the enemy fall below. You cannot do that at all with a P-40E. You will bleed your E off and wallow in the mud. It does not regain E well, but the 109s do. Totally different flying styles.
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I don't think it's like a 109 at all. 109s are vertical monsters. You WANT to take them up and let the enemy fall below. You cannot do that at all with a P-40E. You will bleed your E off and wallow in the mud. It does not regain E well, but the 109s do. Totally different flying styles.
Any plane can do well with vertical manuvers. For example planes on your six you can go up inn a spiral clmib chop a little throthle and they will fly by it your guns if preformed correctly.
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I'm sorry, but no.... Not every plane can do vertical manuvers well. Some are real pigs. Some bleed E and cannot regain it unless they dive for it. The P-40E can do vertical manuvers, yes... But it's nothing compared to the E-monster that the 109 series is.
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I suppose it may *seem* like every bird can do well in the vertical, especially if they already have a lot of speed built up, but IMHO you need good climbing power to be really good at the e game, which the P40E does not have.
I flew the P40E early on in my career and landed my first kills with it. It's a solid plane but the margin for error is somewhat less than other rights. It's very easy to find yourself in LOSS mode (low, slow, and stupid) if you're not careful.
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I'm sorry, but no.... Not every plane can do vertical manuvers well. Some are real pigs. Some bleed E and cannot regain it unless they dive for it. The P-40E can do vertical manuvers, yes... But it's nothing compared to the E-monster that the 109 series is.
It still can be done. If you take a plane up at the right angle and the other plane on your six doesn't have a shot you can spiral climb and eventually he will over shoot.
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It still can be done. If you take a plane up at the right angle and the other plane on your six doesn't have a shot you can spiral climb and eventually he will over shoot.
Hard to do with planes, such as P-40s, that have terrible climb rates. Sure, you can try, but planes like the Spit VIII/XVI, Ki-84 or 109G-14/K-4 can just spiral on up while you can never bring your nose up enough for a shot.
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Your right it's hard to do. But it can be done. Its not like its gonna be a kill shot just enough to hurt them and set them up for the next reverse.
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I'm not sure, but I think in many cases, barring where you entered the fight with a lot more E than your target, trying to go vertical in something like a P-40 is pretty much playing into your opponent's hands and making their kill of you, easier.
Certainly I would find it easier to kill a P-40 trying to go vertical when in a Mosquito, the the Mossie doesn't exactly climb well.
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I like the 40e and fly it alot.... You can suprise the unwary... Its just a very situational aircreaft. I have always found I have to give up altitude to gain posistion...so I try to drag a plane away from the crowd and then engage 1 v 1 ... leave youself an exit stategy..your gonna need it when his buddies come in above you.....
Love to get some pointers from those who really know how to fly her.
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Long as you fly them with their contemporaries the P40's are enjoyable....but you nee the 1939 and 40 set! lol
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thanks gents, I would still like to get some time in TA with someone. Does Batfink fly P40 ?
There's 2 players I'd suggest you look up,Dedalos and Bighorn2,either of these 2 guys can fly the P40 quite well.
You could PM Dedalos here at the forums but finding Bighorn is another mater!! :devil
Hope this helps.
:salute
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thanks morf..
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Some of you seem to be confusing the idea of "using the vertical" with zoom climbing/roping?
With the climb and acceleration of the P40 being what it is, it's absolutely critical that you "use the vertical" effectively.
Use the vertical for your own gains, and beyond that, you need to use the horizontal against your opponent.
You'll need to use the flaps, but use them conservatively. They can be used to help with turns and reversals, but they have an awful high drag penalty to be used for extensive maneuvering.
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I flew a P-40B for the first since like tour 99 and I landed 2 kills. One was a 190A5 that happened to graciously pull up into my 30cals and in my wild spraying of bullets bagged a second one. It flys really nice and no one seem to bother me. Last week I upped a P40E and landed 6( 3 actual and other 3 dude flew his lancs through the ack as I coming around on him). Needless to say, I like it, call it dweebish whatever, I enjoy it. Thanks for the tips/info. TC