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Title: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: bashwolf on February 10, 2011, 04:45:50 PM
I am thinking of getting 1 tv instead of getting 3 lcd monitors hooked up to my PC.  Any suggestions what kind of tv to purchase.  I heard the Plasma are good for gaming.

Thank You for you inputs,

Bash
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Reschke on February 10, 2011, 05:16:15 PM
I don't have the TV version but I have a Samsung P2770FH LCD that works great as my single monitor. It can work as a TV with a cable box and speakers from your theater/PC. However the television version of that same monitor is outstanding as well.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: bashwolf on February 10, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
Thanks Reschke ,

I did look that up has some good reviews.  I try to find the tv version but cant seem to google it.

Again thx for responding.

Bash
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: SIK1 on February 10, 2011, 06:37:10 PM
Do your research it pays off in the end. A good place to check out is: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
I use an older 42" LCD for AH and I love it. IIRC a 42" widescreen has as much viewable area as three 23" monitors using th2go.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 12, 2011, 02:28:20 AM
I am thinking of getting 1 tv instead of getting 3 lcd monitors hooked up to my PC.  Any suggestions what kind of tv to purchase.  I heard the Plasma are good for gaming.

Thank You for you inputs,

Bash

I don't know where you heard that because a plasma is not good for gaming at all. It has the same kind of image flicker like the old crts had and it suffers from image burn-in meaning that if you keep a static picture on for hours it will be permanently burned to your display.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Kazaa on February 12, 2011, 08:37:14 AM
TV's make really bad computer monitors.

three monitors would give you a much higher resolution over a single large TV.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: ebfd11 on February 12, 2011, 09:49:44 AM
Right now I am running 3 23"widescreen hp 2331 monitors on dual nvidea 470 gtx vidcards that are double sli'd and I am not having problems with flicker where as whaen I had them connected to my tv I would get flickering.

BTW my resolution is 5760x1080

LawnDart  :bolt:
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: 68valu on February 12, 2011, 12:15:37 PM
I am thinking of getting 1 tv instead of getting 3 lcd monitors hooked up to my PC.  Any suggestions what kind of tv to purchase.  I heard the Plasma are good for gaming.

Thank You for you inputs,

Bash

I have a 32" 1080p vizio in this simulator:
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/68valu/IMG_0243_2.jpg)

I get 59-60 fps constant with all settings maxed except "bump map"
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 12, 2011, 12:57:44 PM
I have a 32" 1080p vizio in this simulator:
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww293/68valu/IMG_0243_2.jpg)

I get 59-60 fps constant with all settings maxed except "bump map"

Hmm.. you still have some improving there. The placement of the beer glass is way too high and no dedicated fridge.  :t
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: RichardDickBong on February 12, 2011, 01:41:28 PM
Pretty sweet little set up you have there 68valu. Looks like he has an Aces High Room.. LOL and if you look under his chair there are stains from spilt beer. My guess is he got tired of knocking them over. Very nice!  :salute
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Silat on February 14, 2011, 02:41:12 AM
Pretty sweet little set up you have there 68valu. Looks like he has an Aces High Room.. LOL and if you look under his chair there are stains from spilt beer. My guess is he got tired of knocking them over. Very nice!  :salute

Those are not beer stains. It is obviously urine stains. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: jocrp6 on February 14, 2011, 07:08:52 AM
he,he,  your in a cage,  let em out!   pretty cool,  don't know bout the Viper red! lol
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Flench on February 14, 2011, 07:28:19 AM
I like the cage !
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 14, 2011, 08:18:14 AM
Those are not beer stains. It is obviously urine stains. :)

Yeah that can happen during an intense fight if you gotta go. Gives a new meaning to the phrase 'feet wet'  :salute
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Soulyss on February 14, 2011, 10:43:41 AM
I don't know where you heard that because a plasma is not good for gaming at all. It has the same kind of image flicker like the old crts had and it suffers from image burn-in meaning that if you keep a static picture on for hours it will be permanently burned to your display.

like most things it's a trade off, plasmas generally handle motion processing better than LCD's do.  All the 120hz/240hz specs you see on LCD TV's are sort of a band-aid to make up for the traditionally poor motion processing of LCD's.  Plasmas can burn, but really it's no more of a danger than the CRT that you grew up with.  Unless you're prone to marathon game sessions it shouldn't be a problem, for AH purposes unless you're the type that likes to walk away from the game and sit in the tower for hours on end or go AFK for a long slow climb to 30k in a lancaster with all the looking around we do it shouldn't be a problem.

Most plasmas have features that will help prevent burn-in.  Be it a subtle pixel shift or the ability to turn on a white screen, or some other method.  I've owned a plasma for 4 years now or so which I use for my every day TV viewing, the only time I've had burn in be a problem was back during the presidential elections when I watched one of the debates that latest 2+ hours w/out commercial interruptions and the stupid CNN graphics left a bit of an after image, I turned on the white screen for a bit and that took care of it.  Only time it's ever even came up.

If you are prone to really long game session with a static image on screen (like a FPS HUD or some such) then yes LCD is probably better.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 14, 2011, 10:49:30 AM
like most things it's a trade off, plasmas generally handle motion processing better than LCD's do.  All the 120hz/240hz specs you see on LCD TV's are sort of a band-aid to make up for the traditionally poor motion processing of LCD's.  Plasmas can burn, but really it's no more of a danger than the CRT that you grew up with.  Unless you're prone to marathon game sessions it shouldn't be a problem, for AH purposes unless you're the type that likes to walk away from the game and sit in the tower for hours on end or go AFK for a long slow climb to 30k in a lancaster with all the looking around we do it shouldn't be a problem.

Most plasmas have features that will help prevent burn-in.  Be it a subtle pixel shift or the ability to turn on a white screen, or some other method.  I've owned a plasma for 4 years now or so which I use for my every day TV viewing, the only time I've had burn in be a problem was back during the presidential elections when I watched one of the debates that latest 2+ hours w/out commercial interruptions and the stupid CNN graphics left a bit of an after image, I turned on the white screen for a bit and that took care of it.  Only time it's ever even came up.

If you are prone to really long game session with a static image on screen (like a FPS HUD or some such) then yes LCD is probably better.

The problem with the plasma is that it only takes one (1) drunken night out + desktop on and you have pretty littl icons burned to your expensive screen forever. My parents forgot the recording dvd on for one night and the device menu stuck for good for example. And then there's the flicker. THE reason why I got rid of my crts as fast as I could.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Soulyss on February 14, 2011, 11:46:46 AM
The problem with the plasma is that it only takes one (1) drunken night out + desktop on and you have pretty littl icons burned to your expensive screen forever. My parents forgot the recording dvd on for one night and the device menu stuck for good for example. And then there's the flicker. THE reason why I got rid of my crts as fast as I could.

I think some people are more prone to seeing the flicker than others, because both CRT's and Plasma share some similarities it can be an issue for people are bothered by it.  I've never noticed it myself but I also never saw the "rainbow effect" that bedeviled some people when they looked at the DLP display either.  I would think viewing distance would also play a part.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: mechanic on February 14, 2011, 11:59:08 AM
Samsung make awesome TV's Bash, I would recomend them highly. I bought a 37" widescreen LCD 1080p samsung over a year ago and have had no trouble. Most samsung TV's come with a PC input on the back and a dedicated PC channel programmed into them.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: 68valu on February 14, 2011, 02:26:07 PM
Those are not beer stains. It is obviously urine stains. :)

The beer contributes to the urine!!
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Silat on February 15, 2011, 06:20:57 PM
The beer contributes to the urine!!

As if you need an excuse to pee on the floor:)
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: 68valu on February 15, 2011, 09:13:34 PM
As if you need an excuse to pee on the floor:)

Thats what my wife said!
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: CRYPTIC on February 16, 2011, 02:56:42 PM
 I'v been using a 32' LCD TV for 4 years know and have had no problems with it. TV's have come a long way since I bought mine.

 The best part is you can play and watch TV at the same time.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: Dichotomy on February 16, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
Samsung make awesome TV's Bash, I would recomend them highly. I bought a 37" widescreen LCD 1080p samsung over a year ago and have had no trouble. Most samsung TV's come with a PC input on the back and a dedicated PC channel programmed into them.

Been using a Samsung 42" plasma for about 15 months.  Occasionally I'll notice some flickering but not enough to bother me.  Never notice it in game though.  You can get one for under $500 pretty easily.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: DCCBOSS on February 16, 2011, 04:27:20 PM
Has anyone used a LED yet, I have a 32" LED and I'm having trouble with getting my video card set correctly, I've been changing settings and still get a white halo around planes 1k and out, and also as I approach a plane the silhouette seems to be pixilated until about 1.5k out and closing, I plenty of power to run it, I'm using a Nividia 8800 GTS, two core duo processor, windows XP  also using DVI - HDMI cable, set to 1920 1080 resolution, I have the game settings matching the card settings what am I missing.  :bhead  :bhead

PS even my avitar seems grainy
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 17, 2011, 12:20:24 AM
Has anyone used a LED yet, I have a 32" LED and I'm having trouble with getting my video card set correctly, I've been changing settings and still get a white halo around planes 1k and out, and also as I approach a plane the silhouette seems to be pixilated until about 1.5k out and closing, I plenty of power to run it, I'm using a Nividia 8800 GTS, two core duo processor, windows XP  also using DVI - HDMI cable, set to 1920 1080 resolution, I have the game settings matching the card settings what am I missing.  :bhead  :bhead

PS even my avitar seems grainy

Please note that a 'led' tv differs from a regular lcd tv only by its backlighting. 'Edge led' models have led lights in the edges of the screen instead of the regular incandescent lamp. The more expensive field led has thousands of leds directed to a section of the screen that can individually be turned off to increase contrast. Both have their problems that unfortunately have nothing to do with your problem. Your problem is entirely related to the hdmi-dvi link.
Title: Re: Recommendations tv for pc monitor
Post by: DCCBOSS on February 17, 2011, 08:00:03 AM
Please note that a 'led' tv differs from a regular lcd tv only by its backlighting. 'Edge led' models have led lights in the edges of the screen instead of the regular incandescent lamp. The more expensive field led has thousands of leds directed to a section of the screen that can individually be turned off to increase contrast. Both have their problems that unfortunately have nothing to do with your problem. Your problem is entirely related to the hdmi-dvi link.

Update: I was readjusting my video card settings and adjusting color settings and got better results, but it could be allot better, it seems that I have to raise the the gama setting in game to lighten it up.