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Title: 262 Convergence
Post by: XPSteve on February 11, 2011, 11:03:42 AM
What do you guys set your convergence at in the 262? I've been tinkering with it lately and it seems that one set at 200 and the other at 400 works best for me. I'm guessing because it gives me a spread so to speak and with the big rounds, not many (if more then one) landing will do the job. I've had a lot more success hitting fighters with this setup.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: FLS on February 11, 2011, 11:18:34 AM
You get a big spread from dispersion after 100 yards regardless of convergence. You can use the target command .target xxx offline and in the Training Arena to print the pattern at different ranges and see the actual difference in settings. Replace xxx with your desired target range.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: JOACH1M on February 11, 2011, 11:21:58 AM
Fly a k4, aim a bit higher on dead six shots pit double the lead in crossing shots, learn the mk108 and the 262 will be a piece of cake to aim
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: Lusche on February 11, 2011, 11:26:38 AM
650 & 200 for maximum shotgun effect.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: sunfan1121 on February 12, 2011, 01:46:44 AM
650 & 200 for maximum shotgun effect.
That's how I have my guns set also.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: EskimoJoe on February 12, 2011, 02:25:14 AM
650 & 200 for maximum shotgun effect.

If I want a maximum shotgun effect but at a certain range, how would I go about doing that?
For instance, if I want decent "laser" gunnery up to around 400, but a nice shotgun spread
around 600, what would be the ideal convergence? Both sets of guns converging on 500?

^While flying the 262, of course.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 12, 2011, 05:53:20 PM
If I want a maximum shotgun effect but at a certain range, how would I go about doing that?
For instance, if I want decent "laser" gunnery up to around 400, but a nice shotgun spread
around 600, what would be the ideal convergence? Both sets of guns converging on 500?

^While flying the 262, of course.

I'm no 30mm expert but I'm pretty sure the German 30mm doesn't "laser" at any range.

The further out you set your convergence for this gun, the further arc is put on the shell to reach said convergence.

I could be wrong....



wrongway
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: ACE on February 12, 2011, 05:54:41 PM
Fly a k4, aim a bit higher on dead six shots pit double the lead in crossing shots, learn the mk108 and the 262 will be a piece of cake to aim
Listen to him,  he's one of the best 262 pilots in the game.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: JOACH1M on February 12, 2011, 07:53:40 PM
Listen to him,  he's one of the best 262 pilots in the game.
I landed 15 kills today in it...but it came with a price
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: grizz441 on February 13, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
I believe mine are set 275-500, for what it is worth.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: bustr on February 15, 2011, 05:12:52 PM
I have no clue other than dipersion grid samples how close to reality the MK108 - 3 cm Minengeschoss Leuchtspur mit Zerleger (day tracer) round is modeled in Aces High. Here are the results of german testing on the Parabolic Dispersion cone for the MK108 round. Remember it's coming out of a 23 inch barrel 1:16 rifling, 500M/sec.

Testing offline using a 80Mil waffel line grid sampling gunsight.
The dispersion grid for the MK108 at 100yds is 50cmX25cm. (.5mX.35m)

The MK101-103 had 47 inch barrels and the NS-37 had a 90 inch barrel. You can expect with a 1:16 rifling much tighter patterns at 100yds with these. High speed 900-1100m/s 3cm ammo had dispersion patters of about .2m at 100meters and 2.5m at 400meters. The draw back for the high initial velocity was a high recoil which can damage airframe and/or impact aim after a few rounds.

German results.
These values are the radius of a dispersion spiral in meters by distance in meters. 425m(464yd) is the max effective distance of the MK108 due to dispersion and trajectory drop, 11-12ft at 400meters(437yd). This dispersion spiral will account for a 190 guncam vid I watched where at 300m only a single 3cm hit the right wing tip of a B24. 500m/sec Minengeschoss Dispersion grid(x, y) at 100m(7 feet) and 400m is 9.2m(30 feet).

Distance
------------50---100---150---200---250---300---350---400-----425----Meters
Radius
-----------4.3----9.4---15----21.3---28----35----42.3---49.7---53.4---Meters

Over the years some players have mentioned shooting a fighter from dead 6 is usless with a single MK108. B29 is an ideal target for the single MK108. Quad MK108 should miss nothing at 100 yards due to the advantages of 4Xdispersion.
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: Banshee7 on February 15, 2011, 11:33:39 PM
I believe mine are set 275-500, for what it is worth.

Thread over
Title: Re: 262 Convergence
Post by: JOACH1M on February 16, 2011, 11:53:34 AM
Thread over
:lol my convergance have been changed