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Title: IAR_80
Post by: Tyrannis on February 14, 2011, 08:35:33 AM
sorry to make another thread, but this plane caught my attenchian and has become my second favorite fighter of world war 2.

the best romanian fighter of the world. i present the IAR 80!
http://www.aeroestampas.com/iar_80.htm
http://www.aviastar.org/air/romania/iar-80.php
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/1511226.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/iar-80.gif)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/IAR80.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/IAR-80_13.jpg)


would be a great EW plane to add. so please HTC bring this bird onboard  :pray  :salute
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: lyric1 on February 14, 2011, 08:54:48 AM
Didn't know it would fall in the early war era.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Tyrannis on February 14, 2011, 08:56:49 AM
Didn't know it would fall in the early war era.
entered service in early 1942.

wouldnt that make it able to be in early war (as possably a perked ride, like the p38)?
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: 5PointOh on February 14, 2011, 09:00:22 AM
Maybe later on down the road, but not at this time imo, as many of the EW and MW plane are need of an update.  

The IAR 80 had very limited success in WWII, with low production numbers the IAR-80 and 81 only count for less than 350 aircraft.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Debrody on February 14, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
entered service in early 1942.

wouldnt that make it able to be in early war (as possably a perked ride, like the p38)?
Perk this plane?  LOL! Top speed of 320mph at altitude plus only 6*303cal license-Browning MGs? What do you think, how could this plane compete with the other '42 rides, spit5, 109 g-2, early la5, p-39?
This little elegant bird was so outclassed. Would be a hangar queen even in the early war. Plus only 300 were built, couldnt play much role in the eastern front.
Maybe a few years later.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Tyrannis on February 14, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
Perk this plane?  LOL! Top speed of 320mph at altitude plus only 6*303cal license-Browning MGs? What do you think, how could this plane compete with the other '42 rides, spit5, 109 g-2, early la5, p-39?
This little elegant bird was so outclassed. Would be a hangar queen even in the early war. Plus only 300 were built, couldnt play much role in the eastern front.
Maybe a few years later.
i ment it would be perked timeline wise, like the 38G is.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: gyrene81 on February 14, 2011, 09:12:01 AM
The IAR 80 had very limited success in WWII, with low production numbers the IAR-80 and 81 only count for less than 350 aircraft.
~80 p-47m's...just sayin
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: lyric1 on February 14, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
entered service in early 1942.

wouldnt that make it able to be in early war (as possably a perked ride, like the p38)?
I didn't know the dates for early war inclusion.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: 5PointOh on February 14, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
~80 p-47m's...just sayin
The M Jug was an easy one for HTC to add, not a full model. They already had all the parts, they just had to peice them together.  Just Saying.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Tyrannis on February 14, 2011, 09:18:37 AM
I didn't know the dates for early war inclusion.

just my wild guess but i think its...

EW:1940-very early 1942.

MW:1942-very early 1944.

LW:1944 to the end of the war.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Tyrannis on February 14, 2011, 09:19:43 AM
The M Jug was an easy one for HTC to add, not a full model. They already had all the parts, they just had to peice them together.  Just Saying.
the iar looks very similer to a fw190 (and was mistaken as one alot by allied pilots.)

they can just use the fw190's model to build the IAR. just saying.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: 5PointOh on February 14, 2011, 09:30:28 AM
the iar looks very similer to a fw190 (and was mistaken as one alot by allied pilots.)

they can just use the fw190's model to build the IAR. just saying.

 :bhead What specs does a FW190 share with IAR 80?

IAR.80 Engine Specifications:
Engine: Single 716 kW (960 hp) IAR K.14-IV C32 air-cooled 14-cylinder double-row radial

FW-190s Engine Specifications

Fw 190A-1:
  Model: BMW 801C-1
  Type: 14-cyl. air cooled, twin-row radial
  Number: One     Horsepower: 1,660 hp

Fw 190A-3:
  Model: BMW 801Dg
  Type: 14-cyl. air cooled, twin-row radial
  Number: One     Horsepower: 1,800 hp

Fw 190A-4 & Fw 190A-8/F-8:
  Model: BMW 801D-2
  Type: 14-cyl. air cooled, twin-row radial
  Number: One
  Horsepower: 1,730 hp at take-off*
  *With MW50 water/Methanol injection could
  produce 2,100 hp for short periods.

Fw 190D
Model: Junkers Jumo 213A-1
Type: Water-Cooled Inverted V12     Number: One
Horsepower: 1,776 hp (2,240 hp Emergency Boost)

Ta-152
 Junkers Jumo 213E-1
Type: Inverted V12, liquid cooled with MW-50 injection and GM-1 boosting
Number: One
Horsepower:
 Take-Off:
  – 1,750 hp at 3,250 RPM
  – 2,050 hp w. MW 50


So please tell me how these are close?
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Killer91 on February 14, 2011, 09:39:07 AM
Looking at those pictures and seeing those tiny wings it look like it would have an amazing roll rate but would turn like a brick.. but thats just me
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: gyrene81 on February 14, 2011, 09:41:42 AM
the iar looks very similer to a fw190 (and was mistaken as one alot by allied pilots.)

they can just use the fw190's model to build the IAR. just saying.

:bhead What specs does a FW190 share with IAR 80?

key word MODEL...he's was talking about taking a base 190 model and modifying it to fit the IAR...not sure how much less work that would be but...maybe it would work
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Debrody on February 14, 2011, 09:44:10 AM
Heck, all the planes look simmilar, have 2 wings etc...
Btw, Killer, it was very light, im sure it would handle just like a c202, with a better roll rate.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: 5PointOh on February 14, 2011, 09:52:08 AM
Okay lets spell this out...

M-Jug

Was a 47D with Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57 Double Wasp.  The same engine that was in the N that we already had. Therefore HTC had the specs.  So it was easy for HTC to complete the M-Jug MODEL.

Fw-190 Models and the IAR 80 model share what parts?
 
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Masherbrum on February 14, 2011, 12:16:04 PM
None
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: FLS on February 14, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
the iar looks very similer to a fw190 (and was mistaken as one alot by allied pilots.)

they can just use the fw190's model to build the IAR. just saying.

Fortunately for us the flight models aren't that simple. Making the aircraft look correct isn't the problem. Making the aircraft fly correctly is the part that requires more information then you'll generally find posted online.
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 14, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Perk this plane?  LOL! Top speed of 320mph at altitude plus only 6*303cal license-Browning MGs? What do you think, how could this plane compete with the other '42 rides, spit5, 109 g-2, early la5, p-39?
This little elegant bird was so outclassed. Would be a hangar queen even in the early war. Plus only 300 were built, couldnt play much role in the eastern front.
Maybe a few years later.

It definitely wouldn't need to be perked but it would be a good addition to both the early and mid-war plane sets.  It was rather manueverable and as the P-38s of the 82nd found out over Ploesti, the little buggers could fight pretty good.

This is one plane that a lot of us have been asking to be added for awhile now.

ack-ack
Title: Re: IAR_80
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 14, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
sorry to make another thread, but this plane caught my attenchian and has become my second favorite fighter of world war 2.

first off, i love the p40. its my third favorite early war plane. (the p39 being first, p38G second).

lol fickle little beast.

ack-ack