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Title: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: firemike on February 18, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
The 50cals on fields have disabled my tank wtf? I know 37s can do damage but 50cals? Leave me your coments
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: lyric1 on February 18, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
The 50cals on fields have disabled my tank wtf? I know 37s can do damage but 50cals? Leave me your coments
Think they are 20mm rounds?
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: firemike on February 18, 2011, 04:04:46 PM
still i dont think 20s can kill tanks
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: firemike on February 18, 2011, 04:06:12 PM
my wish is this gets fixed or am i wrong
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Babalonian on February 18, 2011, 04:09:28 PM
It's all situational, possibley a bug but not likely.  Got film or a SS?  What tank were you driving at the time?  Where was the field gun's fire impacting on your tank's armor (what was it's position and distance from your tank)?
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: branch37 on February 18, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
I know field Ack can knock out the tracks on a tank but not outright destroy it.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: BaldEagl on February 18, 2011, 08:18:38 PM
Manned ack is either 37mm or 40mm.  I can't remember which.  I always thought the auto ack were the same.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: gyrene81 on February 18, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
.50 cal and 20mm ap rounds can penetrate the armor around the engine and knock it out, especially at close range ~300 yards or less...depends on the tank...would take a full belt of .50 to track it...but then there is always the "golden bb"...you just never know.

Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: dkff49 on February 18, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
I always thought the ack on fields were 37mm.

Like so many other assumptions I have, I am sure someone will come in here and correct me, but I am reasonably certain that the ack (auto and manned) is 37mm.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: gyrene81 on February 18, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
I always thought the ack on fields were 37mm.

Like so many other assumptions I have, I am sure someone will come in here and correct me, but I am reasonably certain that the ack (auto and manned) is 37mm.
:lol  and i thought it was .50 or 20mm...isn't the manned ack 37/40mm?
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Clone155 on February 18, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
The circle ack is 20mm and the square ack is 37mm. Any tank can be killed by field ack if you let it.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Chalenge on February 18, 2011, 10:19:19 PM
Most auto-ack is 20mm but if you look on fields you will see the 20mm are round and the 37mm are square. Not all the 37mm are manneable and they do fire. You will see the tracers from these guns and they are much slower than the 20mm but what you dont see are the non-tracer rounds (obviously) and they will kill you.  :D
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Clone155 on February 18, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
Most auto-ack is 20mm but if you look on fields you will see the 20mm are round and the 37mm are square. Not all the 37mm are manneable and they do fire. You will see the tracers from these guns and they are much slower than the 20mm but what you dont see are the non-tracer rounds (obviously) and they will kill you.  :D
I don't think there are any non-tracer rounds.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Chalenge on February 18, 2011, 11:53:31 PM
I don't think there are any non-tracer rounds.

You think incorrectly. Tracers are not very dangerous. Steel is very dangerous.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Masherbrum on February 19, 2011, 12:26:21 AM
The 50cals on fields have disabled my tank wtf? I know 37s can do damage but 50cals? Leave me your coments

Okay.   Stop whining.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: TwinBoom on February 19, 2011, 07:34:37 AM
p-47`s irl could disable tiger tanks with 50cals they would try to ricochet the rounds off street to the underside of tank which had very thin armor 
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Ghosth on February 19, 2011, 07:43:47 AM
Actually challenge clone was correct.

There should be rounds in between the tracers, but it got to be too many rounds for the system to keep track of, was significantly impacting gameplay. So they juggled it, removed the unseen rounds and cranked up the damage of the tracer rounds if they hit.

Also there are no .30 or .50 cal mg acks in game, have not been for a long time now. Same problem as above.
They went with fewer larger caliber guns.

If you don't believe me its not that hard to test with the manned guns.


So yes, 37mm impacting tank on the same location will blow through in time. Stay out of the ack, kill it first, then move in.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 19, 2011, 08:31:00 AM
p-47`s irl could disable tiger tanks with 50cals they would try to ricochet the rounds off street to the underside of tank which had very thin armor 

Is that a feeble attempt to go fishin???   ;)
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: kvuo75 on February 19, 2011, 08:56:26 AM
its some sort of 37mm that looks like a 40mm bofors according to htc.   and I've killed tons of vehicles with it. the only ones that give trouble to kill outright are tigers and t34s nowadays.  panzers are dead meat, and m4's are if close enough and you hit the sweet spot


i'm somewhat curious if the OP was in a panther yesterday that got tracked, but then ended up getting killed by another tank.. I had tracked a panther with field gun because all i could see was his track under some trees. then went back to tower, and a friendly came out and finished him off.. to the panther it might have looked like an auto ack popped his track from way out, when in fact it was a 37mm manned ack . 

Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: mbailey on February 19, 2011, 09:00:33 AM
p-47`s irl could disable tiger tanks with 50cals they would try to ricochet the rounds off street to the underside of tank which had very thin armor  

Found this along the lines of what you wrote above.........5th paragraph down.

http://www.usaaf.net/ww2/dday/ddpg8.htm
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 19, 2011, 02:54:57 PM
<Actually clone, challenge was correct.>

fixed


wrongway
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Clone155 on February 19, 2011, 10:28:57 PM
fixed


wrongway

Evidence?
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Chalenge on February 19, 2011, 11:14:30 PM
Most auto-ack is 20mm but if you look on fields you will see the 20mm are round and the 37mm are square. Not all the 37mm are manneable and they do fire. You will see the tracers from these guns and they are much slower than the 20mm but what you dont see are the non-tracer rounds (obviously) and they will kill you.  :D

Well Clone look closely. You see the tracers. Obvious. What you dont see are the non-tracer rounds. Again... obvious.

The non-tracer rounds will kill you. The tracers hit you and the game calculates the non-tracer rounds damage.

Steel kills. Tracers?

Pretty easy really even though its obvious your stuck on the non-tracer rounds not being modeled (physically represented or drawn)... they still kill you.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: 321BAR on February 19, 2011, 11:28:58 PM
Well Clone look closely. You see the tracers. Obvious. What you dont see are the non-tracer rounds. Again... obvious.

The non-tracer rounds will kill you. The tracers hit you and the game calculates the non-tracer rounds damage.

Steel kills. Tracers?

Pretty easy really even though its obvious your stuck on the non-tracer rounds not being modeled (physically represented or drawn)... they still kill you.
Actually challenge clone was correct.

There should be rounds in between the tracers, but it got to be too many rounds for the system to keep track of, was significantly impacting gameplay. So they juggled it, removed the unseen rounds and cranked up the damage of the tracer rounds if they hit.

Also there are no .30 or .50 cal mg acks in game, have not been for a long time now. Same problem as above.
They went with fewer larger caliber guns.

If you don't believe me its not that hard to test with the manned guns.


So yes, 37mm impacting tank on the same location will blow through in time. Stay out of the ack, kill it first, then move in.

Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Clone155 on February 20, 2011, 01:05:33 AM
Well Clone look closely. You see the tracers. Obvious. What you dont see are the non-tracer rounds. Again... obvious.

The non-tracer rounds will kill you. The tracers hit you and the game calculates the non-tracer rounds damage.

Steel kills. Tracers?

Pretty easy really even though its obvious your stuck on the non-tracer rounds not being modeled (physically represented or drawn)... they still kill you.

So you are saying that when a tracer round hits the plane, it calculates the odds of how many non-tracer rounds would have also hit me and adds that to the damage?
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Chalenge on February 20, 2011, 02:20:15 AM
Perhaps not precisely how it is calculated but thats it approximately... if you will.
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 20, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
So you are saying that when a tracer round hits the plane, it calculates the odds of how many non-tracer rounds would have also hit me and adds that to the damage?

Ever see a hit sprite without a tracer hitting?

Typically every fifth round is a tracer, meaning there are four rounds you cannot see between the tracers.


wrongway
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: Clone155 on February 20, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
Ever see a hit sprite without a tracer hitting?

Typically every fifth round is a tracer, meaning there are four rounds you cannot see between the tracers.


wrongway

Actually no I have never seen that
Title: Re: Field-Ack Kills Tanks?
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 20, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
Actually no I have never seen that

OK. Scratch that and reverse it.

Ever get hit in your tank by AAA and not see a tracer with the sound?


wrongway