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Title: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: bustr on February 18, 2011, 04:02:18 PM
This is not for the squeamish or finnicky.

http://www.wio.ru/gal2a/gal-cap.htm
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Babalonian on February 18, 2011, 04:06:21 PM
Those Doras and 163s look interesting.  I wonder if their 163s saw any combat, would be nice to have another 163 skin in the bag.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Krusty on February 18, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
No captured skins allowed. The only real case would be for the 190D, as a number of those were captured on the ground and pilots from some regionality (I don't recall which -- Poland, maybe?) flew them. However, this was 1 flight out of hundreds of thousands of planes involved on all sides. A very small number.

The others were all test planes, captured trophies, etc.... Considering they didn't have He162s anywhere near the Soviet lines I'd be willing to wager that's a post-war captured plane, after Berlin had been over-run. I would say the same about the 163s as well.


None of those are valid for use as skins in AH based on HTC's criteria/requirements.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: bustr on February 18, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
Aye Aye Admiral Krusty sir yes Sir. Do we all hop off the Aces High roof if you so order Sir!..........
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Krusty on February 18, 2011, 10:47:11 PM
Bustr, you put forth an idea. I explained why it 1) wasn't all that great with regards to AH, and 2) why it won't happen (HTC said "No!" to captured skins...). It is nothing personal and I hope you were not insulted.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: bustr on February 19, 2011, 12:37:38 AM
I felt sorry for the russian iron guys not getting even a biplane and all wanting the Yak3...... :devil
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: MiloMorai on February 19, 2011, 07:36:33 AM
In the east, the Russian advance towards Berlin reaped war booty aplenty. This included between 6 to 10 Focke-Wulf Fw190D-9’s captured intact by the 2 Guards IAP of 322 IAD at a Focke-Wulf facility near Marienburg, East Prussia. Fresh from the production line it appears that at first they were not flown but were, for propaganda purposes, painted with red stars by the Air Force of the Baltic Fleet.

From this selection of Dora’s, it appears that one example was chosen for extensive flight-testing by NII VVS. However, as Russian types in production such as the Yak-3 and La-7, were according to the Dora test pilots better aircraft, the remaining examples were not flown. It appears that they ended their days being used for gun sighting and identification training on the ground by Russian pilots of the 322 IAD before probably being scrapped.

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1244
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Imowface on February 19, 2011, 04:35:15 PM
In the east, the Russian advance towards Berlin reaped war booty aplenty. This included between 6 to 10 Focke-Wulf Fw190D-9’s captured intact by the 2 Guards IAP of 322 IAD at a Focke-Wulf facility near Marienburg, East Prussia. Fresh from the production line it appears that at first they were not flown but were, for propaganda purposes, painted with red stars by the Air Force of the Baltic Fleet.

From this selection of Dora’s, it appears that one example was chosen for extensive flight-testing by NII VVS. However, as Russian types in production such as the Yak-3 and La-7, were according to the Dora test pilots better aircraft, the remaining examples were not flown. It appears that they ended their days being used for gun sighting and identification training on the ground by Russian pilots of the 322 IAD before probably being scrapped.

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=1244
We scrap Dora's and turn them into something usefull (La-7's  ;) )
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: SectorNine50 on February 21, 2011, 03:44:35 AM
Bustr, you put forth an idea. I explained why it 1) wasn't all that great with regards to AH, and 2) why it won't happen (HTC said "No!" to captured skins...). It is nothing personal and I hope you were not insulted.

I'm telling you man, it's the way you write things.  Take the authoritarian speech down a notch and you'll be better off.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: EskimoJoe on February 21, 2011, 03:51:31 AM
I'm telling you man, it's the way you write things.  Take the authoritarian speech down a notch and you'll be better off.

I can't help but agree here.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: badhorse on March 01, 2011, 06:02:23 PM
No captured skins allowed. The only real case would be for the 190D, as a number of those were captured on the ground and pilots from some regionality (I don't recall which -- Poland, maybe?) flew them. However, this was 1 flight out of hundreds of thousands of planes involved on all sides. A very small number.

The others were all test planes, captured trophies, etc.... Considering they didn't have He162s anywhere near the Soviet lines I'd be willing to wager that's a post-war captured plane, after Berlin had been over-run. I would say the same about the 163s as well.


None of those are valid for use as skins in AH based on HTC's criteria/requirements.

Seems like a valid response to me.  Answered the question in an informed and non-condescending way. Maybe there is a past here I am unaware of.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: moot on March 01, 2011, 06:05:32 PM
Yak 9 M
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Imowface on March 01, 2011, 07:15:04 PM
Yak-1b, Yak-7b
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: whiteman on March 02, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
Seems like a valid response to me.  Answered the question in an informed and non-condescending way. Maybe there is a past here I am unaware of.

Please point me to the question, i only see statements.
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Tyrannis on March 02, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
This is not for the squeamish or finnicky.

http://www.wio.ru/gal2a/gal-cap.htm
any story about that 262? did they capture it after the war or during? and did it ever see combat use with the russians?
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 03, 2011, 12:14:04 AM
Yak 9 M

A Yak9T with a 20mm ShVAK instead of the NS-37.  Slower than the Yak9T.

Are we just throwing letters out there?


wrongway
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: Imowface on March 03, 2011, 12:49:42 AM
in that case wrongway, why do we need the G14 when we have the K4, or the P51b when we have the P51D or the A6M2 when we have the A6M5?

and wernt you one of the people that wanted a Yak-3? do you know how much different it is then the 9U?
Title: Re: The Fast Way To Get More Russian Aircraft
Post by: moot on March 03, 2011, 10:16:48 AM
A Yak9T with a 20mm ShVAK instead of the NS-37.  Slower than the Yak9T.

Are we just throwing letters out there?
Yes.  Was my hunch on what the model was that needed only very minor changes to the U, for a slightly earlier war model.  IIRC just cockpit moved, and... one or two other minor things.

I think remodeled U, added M, Yak 3, and maybe one more Yak or Mig that fills the biggest gap would make a great addition for the ruskie fans.  Seems well within HTC's usual release size.