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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: olds442 on February 22, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
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the B29 needs no perk. a A6M is thougher lower its perk to like 10 a lanc is a better buff not as much ords but it can take a 30 cal, i think the B29 might be under modeled ever hear about the P61 using all its amo on one and then it still flys ya a, LA 4 shots kill a B29 at D 500
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:headscratch:
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That was.... profound. :headscratch:
:bolt:
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It should be perked, just not 100 perks per pop.
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is say it should be 150, but then i wouldnt be able to buy it :rofl
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I expect the nature of the B-29 posts will change, not the volume. I see more whine in the forecast.
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It is fine the way it is, Allied fans whining what is new?
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It is extremely prone to fire. It is ridiculous a squaddie with only 303s left in his mossie shot 120 rounds into a b-29 lighting every engine on fire and the fuselage.
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We do need more axis planes..
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It is extremely prone to fire. It is ridiculous a squaddie with only 303s left in his mossie shot 120 rounds into a b-29 lighting every engine on fire and the fuselage.
exactly
and if I remember right olds was pro perk for this plane
It does light up.....I took a set up tonight, bombed strats, was able to return all 3 planes home, but I won't be upping another set.
Yeah big bomb load - so what? Doesn't matter if you catch on fire if your gunner pees himself.
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It is fine the way it is, Allied fans whining what is new?
I thought its was LuftWhiners. Apparently Schowly has a friend.
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give it time patches will be out
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exactly
and if I remember right olds was pro perk for this plane
It does light up.....I took a set up tonight, bombed strats, was able to return all 3 planes home, but I won't be upping another set.
Yeah big bomb load - so what? Doesn't matter if you catch on fire if your gunner pees himself.
yes all for the perk just if its this weak then ill have to change my mind if its a bug keep it the way it is
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if its a bug keep it the way it is
:huh
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It indeed has bugs:
#1 when running on max power with wep the lead plane outruns drones.
#2 When shot by low caliber weapons either 2 things happen, the fuel tanks light up brighter than a lighter or the wing falls off. (Tested and found)
#3 (Found this one offline) When at a high alt running for a long period of time on WEP the motors heat up and either 3 things happen, and they are as follows: The motors heat up and light on fire (historically correct and I think it is kinda cool) B. Motors get to hot and shut down (Also historically correct I think) C. This really made me upset, Motors got hot up at 30k and suddenly my plane explodes.(bye 150 perkies)
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:huh
He means fix the bug and leave the perk price.
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I'd say leave it alone then :devil
For the humor impaired that was a joke.
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Haven't even seen a B29 yet... :noid
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honestly if the engines get to hot they could spark setting the fuel lines on fir and leading back to main tank
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the B29 needs no perk. a A6M is thougher lower its perk to like 10 a lanc is a better buff not as much ords but it can take a 30 cal, i think the B29 might be under modeled ever hear about the P61 using all its amo on one and then it still flys ya a, LA 4 shots kill a B29 at D 500
LOL!!! sounds like someone has a bit of trouble getting to 40K
Did you post pictures of how you lost yours?
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the B29 needs no perk. a A6M is thougher lower its perk to like 10 a lanc is a better buff not as much ords but it can take a 30 cal, i think the B29 might be under modeled ever hear about the P61 using all its amo on one and then it still flys ya a, LA 4 shots kill a B29 at D 500
I do happen to remember that combat report give me time and i will find it.
Yeah now that I think about it it was a P61C 4 20's and 4 .50's filled a damaged 29 with an entire load of ammunition, and the 29's were indeed still flying.
I believe there is some under modeling here 29 is the weakest plane in game even the betty beats it in toughness. :uhoh
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What I have noticed today, is a crapload of folks flying B29s in the 20-25k alt range. In a hurry as usual. MUST DROP BOMB NOW... I'm guessing that if you fly the B29 to its strengths, high alt and high speed... It won't much matter how fragile the plane is...
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What I have noticed today, is a crapload of folks flying B29s in the 20-25k alt range.
If they had been that low, I would have gotten some kills on them. Unfortunately I tried in vain for 90 minutes... :cry
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If they had been that low, I would have gotten some kills on them. Unfortunately I tried in vain for 90 minutes... :cry
Must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time then...
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Jeez it's day one. I'm not a bomber guy, and the odds of me flying a 29 are a zillion to one.
Who cares. let em fly. Let em work out the details. Shut up and play the game :)
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Jeez it's day one. I'm not a bomber guy, and the odds of me flying a 29 are a zillion to one.
Who cares. let em fly. Let em work out the details. Shut up and play the game :)
You should see 200 or Country Channel. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Who cares. let em fly. Let em work out the details. Shut up and play the game :)
But they need feedback to work out the details ;)
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But they need feedback to work out the details ;)
While I agree that they do need feedback to work out the details... I really think they need to detail it to the brig and keep the blasted thing there under lock and key. :devil
All the Best...
Jay
PS.. it belongs with the Bananaphone, locked up and never to be used in here!
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Jeez it's day one. I'm not a bomber guy, and the odds of me flying a 29 are a zillion to one.
Who cares. let em fly. Let em work out the details. Shut up and play the game :)
Dan...I blame you for the disruption in the MAs! Although I haven't played today. I'm still going to blame you. Besides, I thought you flew the
B-38G bomber. :neener:
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the reason why its so easy to kill is becuase HTC dont want whines of it being extremly hard to kill and 2 its to make the pilot focus more on High Alt bombing missions. take it up to 40k bomb 4 to 8 towns with 40 500lbers and rack up the points i dont think you get alot of perk points for it though, idk though.
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:huh
i meant to say if its bug fix and keep perk price the same
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from the OP post, looks like proper grammar is perked and he's all out of perks.
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from the OP post, looks like proper grammer is perked and he's all out of perks.
:rofl :aok
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i meant to say if its bug fix and keep perk price the same
Yeah, I thought you were saying that if it's a bug the bug should remain. I was quite appalled and couldn't come with any words to respond to that.
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Jeez it's day one. I'm not a bomber guy, and the odds of me flying a 29 are a zillion to one.
Who cares. let em fly. Let em work out the details. Shut up and play the game :)
Right. It got promptly filed to "ignore immediately" - the B29, that is. If otoh, we had the ME410, HE219, or Do217, I'd've been upping one to finger out how to manipulate it.
I mean, I saw the polling and understand why this was added but sometimes the majority gets it wrong. What we need are more Italian, German, and Japanese aircraft.
One thing I'd like to comment on, though, is the modeling of the overheating issue. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think it'd be tres cool if statistical variation was part of the game. I thought more on how, conceptually, such a thing could be done. Conceivably, you could model statistical variation into "batches" of a given aircraft. You could select the variables in which to allow random variabilty within a given range - I don't know, most likely somewhere within +/- 3 sigma of mean, assuming such data might actually be available or reasonably guessed. The upper would unwittingly randomly select a specific version out of the batch - i.e., the foundation flight model with deltas on key variables figured in (e.g. consider the range of output power for a specific DB605). He'd then be "assigned" that specifc version from within the batch for that aircraft until it gets shot out from under him, then he rolls the dice again next time he ups.
Now, I recognize this would make life tougher for HiTech and crew but I still think it's a cool idea. I also recognize that, with the B-29 overheating issue, they are modeling a design defect as opposed to build variability. However, I still think its a cool idea. Why? Because nearly every fighter pilot's account I've read has stated that you'd get used to a specific aircraft - its sounds, smells, and handling and engine vagaries. I also think it'd add some cool realism to some of the reenactments - for example, so-and-so's aircraft was having trouble keeping up with the formation.
And what about the reliability of specific engines and weapons? Gun jams would be kewl, as would power failures, if frustrating is kewl.
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I agree with you, let bomber pilots enjoy it and fighters have fun shooting it down. Last evening i could fly a A234 for 50 perks and B29 was over 100 perks?!! If the perking set up,represents the usage of the plane in WW2, the B29 was built and was part of action in way more #s than A234s and this ridiculous high perk tag would make the B29 a hangar queen. IF is perked shouldn't be more than 50% of the A234 price, about 20-25 bomber perks in a well balanced arena. Last evening i've seen lots of B29s in MA, but many players have perks saved and never used for A234s, but it's not easy to make 300 bomber perks for a formation of B29s unless you are an IL2 dweeb:).
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"the reason why its so easy to kill is becuase HTC dont want ..."
You have no idea at all about why it appears to be easy to kill
"idk though
Exactly. You should make it your sig file
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I think the perks should be lowered some.I think there will be a lot more bomber pilots now trying to get enough perks to fly a 29.I think this plane will give the game a newer direction.I agree we need more axis planes.The Japanese Jack was a real B29 tormentor,and it would be nice to have it.I think I made the right decision to stay with the game,as it has became fun for me again.A heartfelt tnxs to the people that helped me see the error in my thinking.The guy that was going to pay my subscription is a real decent sort of chap,but he would shoot me down in a Pocatello minute if given the chance!
The Dawg
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Thank you HTC. I love the 29 and am planning on using it frequently. It does catch on fire and it is hard to take off when loaded. But so did the real thing. This plane presents challenges to overcome to be successful. Last night I did a strat run at 30k+, lost 2 drones and shot down a 163, sent two more 163's and a 47 home limping. Great gun package. Keep the plane like it is and it will stay out of the hands of the average player looking for easy destruction. I am pleased with it and am now planning frequent runs with it. It has a definite purpose, you just have to know where, when, and how to use it. It is obvious from all the posts that a lot of folks will never figure this out. Strat runs are not wise with this plane, I did that last night to get some action with the 163's and see how it would perform against them.
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I think the perks should be lowered some.I think there will be a lot more bomber pilots now trying to get enough perks to fly a 29.I think this plane will give the game a newer direction.I agree we need more axis planes.The Japanese Jack was a real B29 tormentor,and it would be nice to have it.I think I made the right decision to stay with the game,as it has became fun for me again.A heartfelt tnxs to the people that helped me see the error in my thinking.The guy that was going to pay my subscription is a real decent sort of chap,but he would shoot me down in a Pocatello minute if given the chance!
The Dawg
The "Dawg", as he calls himself (don't mean anything by this - I just don't know why you'd choose such a handle, but then, look who's talking), makes a fine point. Incentives always matter and it appears we have a new one. If that means more arscheklownen are upping bombers, so much the better. If it means more strat raids - and I'm not clear it will - better still.
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the reason why its so easy to kill is becuase HTC dont want whines of it being extremly hard to kill and 2 its to make the pilot focus more on High Alt bombing missions.
So you had a conversation with Hitech and/or Pyro and they told you this ? ... I doubt it.
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Logged in, checked my bomber perks, saw I had 13, had a good laugh then upped the fatty :D
I guess the 4engine JUG is just out of my league :rofl :rofl
JUGgler
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Logged in, checked my bomber perks, saw I had 13, had a good laugh then upped the fatty :D
I guess the 4engine JUG is just out of my league :rofl :rofl
JUGgler
:rofl The fatty... :rofl
You owe me a coffee... :rofl
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:rofl
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the B29 needs no perk. a A6M is thougher lower its perk to like 10 a lanc is a better buff not as much ords but it can take a 30 cal, i think the B29 might be under modeled ever hear about the P61 using all its amo on one and then it still flys ya a, LA 4 shots kill a B29 at D 500
Doctor Memory: Could you state that as a question please?
;)
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It indeed has bugs:
#1 when running on max power with wep the lead plane outruns drones.
#2 When shot by low caliber weapons either 2 things happen, the fuel tanks light up brighter than a lighter or the wing falls off. (Tested and found)
#3 (Found this one offline) When at a high alt running for a long period of time on WEP the motors heat up and either 3 things happen, and they are as follows: The motors heat up and light on fire (historically correct and I think it is kinda cool) B. Motors get to hot and shut down (Also historically correct I think) C. This really made me upset, Motors got hot up at 30k and suddenly my plane explodes.(bye 150 perkies)
good QA...also looks like a good reason to follow the suggestions HTC put in the notes about learning this bird...offline...overheating on WEP should be no surprise as the fighters do this as well...
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good QA...also looks like a good reason to follow the suggestions HTC put in the notes about learning this bird...offline...overheating on WEP should be no surprise as the fighters do this as well...
To my knowledge no other aircraft suffers engine failure or fires if the WEP is left running until it maxes out, so I doubt this is modeled on the B29. When the WEP maxes out it just simply cuts off and begins to recharge. I burned my WEP out twice in one flight while climbing in the B29 and my engines never burst into flames.
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To my knowledge no other aircraft suffers engine failure or fires if the WEP is left running until it maxes out, so I doubt this is modeled on the B29. When the WEP maxes out it just simply cuts off and beings to recharge. I burned my WEP out twice in one flight while climbing in the B29 and my engines never burst into flames.
Same here, I haven't suffered engine problems from WEP.
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Logged in, checked my bomber perks, saw I had 13, had a good laugh then upped the fatty :D
I guess the 4engine JUG is just out of my league :rofl :rofl
JUGgler
How did you earn 13 bomber perks? :confused:
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How did you earn 13 bomber perks? :confused:
WOW! I really have no friggin idea, maybe one of my many silly air to air adventures in the JU88-O-DOOM :banana:
JUGgler
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,304282.0/topicseen.html
Scroll halfway down the bar until you come across the white combat report.