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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: rainnman on February 24, 2011, 12:38:16 PM
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As it appears that we are encountering numerous engine fires on the b-29 is it possible to execute a engine fire procedure that will put out the fire shut down the engine and still contine the mission without flaming the rest of the aircraft?
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I would hope that HTC would, especially since the B29 is able to have fires on its own without damage from enemy fire or collision (as is reported, anyways), that there would be a way to isolate the fuel from the engine and stop the fire.
I KNOW that B24's could do that, but currently in game the capability is not there.
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Does the B29 really have engine fires or are they just fuel tank fires like on the rest of our planes?
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motherland the report I am getting is the a/c was at cruise no other a/c in area and wep was on for extended time. The engine caught fire and the a/c was destroyed.
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motherland the report I am getting is the a/c was at cruise no other a/c in area and wep was on for extended time. The engine caught fire and the a/c was destroyed.
Since AH doesn't model engine malfunctions (over heating, etc.) I seriously doubt that the B-29 as reported to you had its engine catch fire without any reason. Most likely the person was bounced by someone he didn't see (maybe the B-29 driver as AFK?).
ack-ack
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I did test & use the Takeoff Power setting repeatedly. Never I had any malfunction resulting from it. It's just running out based on a timer, like all WEP settings in game do. Furthermore, would be a radically departure from the game design philosophy that HT has propagated himself for years.
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I would hope that HTC would, especially since the B29 is able to have fires on its own without damage from enemy fire or collision (as is reported, anyways), that there would be a way to isolate the fuel from the engine and stop the fire.
Doesn't happen in game. I always WEP until none left. Same as ever. Flew offline @ 30k, WEP until none left. It just shut off. No fires.
Someone is overcompensating @ fires.
wrongway
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As it appears that we are encountering numerous engine fires on the b-29 is it possible to execute a engine fire procedure that will put out the fire shut down the engine and still contine the mission without flaming the rest of the aircraft?
I totally agree with this...all the US bombers had fire extinguishers...as far as programming...it's a switch...some condition turns the fire on...a sequence of keystroke turns it off...but it's a "one time" deal...same engine brews up...you're hosed...just like real life...needs to go on wishlist for sure...
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Your asking for a wish to combat a problem that does not exist....
Strip
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I did test & use the Takeoff Power setting repeatedly. Never I had any malfunction resulting from it. It's just running out based on a timer, like all WEP settings in game do. Furthermore, would be a radically departure from the game design philosophy that HT has propagated himself for years.
WEP runs out according to engine temp actually
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To all that replied thanks for your input. I will pass it on to my CO in the bomb wing. Happy hunting all.
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Since AH doesn't model engine malfunctions (over heating, etc.) I seriously doubt that the B-29 as reported to you had its engine catch fire without any reason. Most likely the person was bounced by someone he didn't see (maybe the B-29 driver as AFK?).
ack-ack
Possibly a killshooter situation as well. Could have gotten a little trigger happy while playing with the guns and popped an escort (been there).
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WEP runs out according to engine temp actually
Nope.
ack-ack
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I always thought it did, I have looked and you can see the WEP stop when it hits a certan temp then cools again
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I always thought it did, I have looked and you can see the WEP stop when it hits a certan temp then cools again
It's set on a timer.
ack-ack
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It's set on a timer.
So is the temp gauge when you are using WEP and as the temp reaches certain value the WEP switches off.
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It works both ways. It's just a matter of point-of-view.
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It works both ways. It's just a matter of point-of-view.
In a thread about WEP, HiTech himself stated that WEP in game was based on a timer. For example, the P-38 has 5 minutes of WEP. I can run WEP until the needle is just below the red zone (for this example, lets say it took 4 minutes with WEP on to reach) and then turn it off and let it cool down until the needle is back in the green. I turn WEP back on and it will cut out before the engine temps hit the yellow zone because I only had 1 minute of WEP remaining.
ack-ack
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The way I understood it from the Hitech's reply in that thread (couldn't find the thread now) is that for every plane that has WEP the total WEP usage time is twice the time it can be used continiously. So for example for the P-38J, if you use it for 4 minutes you still have total of 6 mins remaining but only one minute before it has to cool down which takes whatever time you plan to use it for again*. For example after five minutes of use the WEP needs to "recharge" another five minutes in order to be used continuosly for the remaining 5 mins of WEP-time. After that, it is all gone.
I certainly have used Dora's WEP longer than the 10 mins it has continious WEP...but not continiously. ;)
(*This is for the Lightning, in Dora it cools in 5 minutes aswell even though the continious usage is 10mins.)
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Most people do not understand the WEP restrictions. WEP is time based but is shown as temperature.
Planes do not have unlimited wep and all planes are not the same.
The P51D has 10 mins (600 secs) of total wep time, and 5 mins or continues wep time. Would have to look at the cool down rate. The equates to 5 mins wep, if you cool down all the way you get another 5 mins, but then no more.
The 4Fu has 480 secs of total wep with (not positive) 5 mins of max continues.
The system will simulate both consumable wep (i.e. nitrous or water) , or simply rpms and MP above normal mil power.
HiTech
... although testing has shown that there is no "total WEP" time, you can keep using WEP as many times as you like, as long as it has recharged.
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... although testing has shown that there is no "total WEP" time, you can keep using WEP as many times as you like, as long as it has recharged.
This is how I have always thought it worked. It was my understanding that one of the benefits of the Ki84 was that WEP recharged faster then other aircraft. But maybe I only imagined that I read that somewhere.
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This is how I have always thought it worked. It was my understanding that one of the benefits of the Ki84 was that WEP recharged faster then other aircraft. But maybe I only imagined that I read that somewhere.
Ki-84 has only 90 seconds of WEP, but unlike other aircraft which recharge 1 second of WEP for 2 seconds of cooldown time, the Ki-84 seems to be close to two seconds of WEP for 1 second of cooldown time.
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Ki-84 has only 90 seconds of WEP, but unlike other aircraft which recharge 1 second of WEP for 2 seconds of cooldown time, the Ki-84 seems to be close to two seconds of WEP for 1 second of cooldown time.
Thanks for confirming. I was pretty sure I had read that somewhere. It makes bursts of WEP during combat very useful for accelerating in the Ki84
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... although testing has shown that there is no "total WEP" time, you can keep using WEP as many times as you like, as long as it has recharged.
I'd refer you back to HTC's post on WEP and infact there is a limited amount of WEP. IIRC Hitech said there was 600 seconds total WEP,He also stated that some planes had 450 seconds,again this is off memory and that number may be slightly incorrect.
Basically you have 5 mins of WEP then a cool down time and another 5 mins of WEP and it's done,how you manage that depends on you.You have also seen stated in this thread a 2 minute cooldown for each minute used which is again correct,with the exception of the KI84 which seems tobe the reverse of normal.
The LW A/C have a slightly different WEP setup,but they are limited aswell,I'd have to lookup the exact figures for them.The times I mentioned above are for the US planes and can be found in the forum,I just am too lazy to hunt them down ATM..... :o
:salute
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Ki-84 has only 90 seconds of WEP, but unlike other aircraft which recharge 1 second of WEP for 2 seconds of cooldown time, the Ki-84 seems to be close to two seconds of WEP for 1 second of cooldown time.
Someone had compiled all of these a while back. Either on the forums or trainer pages, or on the Wiki
Here's one
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/WEP
In a thread about WEP, HiTech himself stated that WEP in game was based on a timer. For example, the P-38 has 5 minutes of WEP. I can run WEP until the needle is just below the red zone (for this example, lets say it took 4 minutes with WEP on to reach) and then turn it off and let it cool down until the needle is back in the green. I turn WEP back on and it will cut out before the engine temps hit the yellow zone because I only had 1 minute of WEP remaining.
ack-ack
But the temp gauge only exists to measure WEP availability. So I'm betting that P-38 gauge is faulty.
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WEP is only time based in that the heat rises steadily and hits its limit at that 5 (or 10) minute WEP duration. It is the HEAT itself that turns off WEP. Think of it as a constantly regenerating power bar in an arcade game. You use it, it drains. It will still steadily drain, but stop using it and it starts replenishing. So you get 5 minutes continuous, or more than 5 minutes with a break in between.
The heat dials on the P-38 probably come into play when you lose a radiator and the engine overheats. You can go into the red on planes with WEP and keep an eye on it, turn the engine off, etc... Don't recall how that works in the 38G, though.
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I'd refer you back to HTC's post on WEP and infact there is a limited amount of WEP.
... and I'm going to refer you right back to my comment that testing has shown that there is no "total WEP" time.
I'll even chuck this in for good measure:
I took a P-51D up and tested it. I did the 5-min WEP, 10-min cool-down cycle 5 times before running out of fuel.
:)
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OMG... I just thought "I think you can run WEP more often than twice.... could HiTech be wrong? Maybe I should run a test..."
Now I see I had been there before... my dementia is worse than I thought :(
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maybe one more time just to make sure? :lol
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In a thread about WEP, HiTech himself stated that WEP in game was based on a timer. For example, the P-38 has 5 minutes of WEP. I can run WEP until the needle is just below the red zone (for this example, lets say it took 4 minutes with WEP on to reach) and then turn it off and let it cool down until the needle is back in the green. I turn WEP back on and it will cut out before the engine temps hit the yellow zone because I only had 1 minute of WEP remaining.
ack-ack
But the temp gauge only exists to measure WEP availability. So I'm betting that P-38 gauge is faulty.
And overheating too; nevermind