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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Vudu15 on February 27, 2011, 04:44:36 PM
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we of course need all sorts of other things first but I think this would be another interesting a/c for secnarios and everyday use.
"The Fulmar was a two-seat Fleet fighter armed with eight 7.7mm Browning machine-guns, four in each wing. It was unusual for a two-seater in having no rear-mounted gun for the observer/radio operator. The prototype flew for the first time on 4 January 1940 and by the latter part of the same year early production Mk Is were firmly in action. A total of 250 853kW Rolls-Royce Merlin VIII-powered Mk Is were built, followed by 350 969kW Merlin 30-powered Mk IIs. During its career, which lasted until the end of the war, it performed many roles including those of escort fighter, convoy protection and reconnaissance, but with the introduction of the faster Supermarine Spitfire its main carrier-borne day-fighter role was substituted for the less demanding night-fighter role. "
Specification
MODEL Fairey "Fulmar" Mk.I
CREW 2
ENGINE 1 x Rolls-Royce "Merlin" VIII, 805kW
WEIGHTS
Take-off weight 4853 kg 10699 lb
Empty weight 3955 kg 8719 lb
DIMENSIONS
Wingspan 14.14 m 46 ft 5 in
Length 12.24 m 40 ft 2 in
Height 4.27 m 14 ft 0 in
Wing area 31.77 m2 341.97 sq ft
PERFORMANCE
Max. speed 398 km/h 247 mph
Ceiling 6555 m 21500 ft
ARMAMENT 8 x 7.7mm machine-guns
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and this little jewel...
The Firefly - which in its prototype form first flew on 22 December 1941 - was produced until the mid-1950s although most of the earlier operational versions remained in use with the Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy and Royal Netherlands Navy. Reconditioned Firefly Is were also supplied to the air forces of Ethiopia and Siam during this period; while Firefly target tugs served in Sweden and Denmark.
The Firefly 1 was powered by a 1,483kW Rolls-Royce Griffon 2 or 12 engine driving a Rotol three-bladed propeller. The F.1 was the early two-seat day fighter and was followed by the FR.1 and 1A standard reconnaissance fighters (with search radar in a radome under the nose of the fuselage) and the NF.1 night fighter. Each was armed with two 20mm cannon in each wing. The Firefly T.1 was basically an F.1 converted for use as a deck-landing conversion and instrument-flying trainer. The raised rear cockpit was occupied by the instructor. They were usually unarmed, although a few carried two 20mm cannon.
The Firefly TT.1 was fitted for towing a glider, banner or sleeve target for ground-to-air or air-to-air firing practice. The Firefly T.2 was an armaments trainer, similar to the T.1 with two 20mm cannon and provision for carrying bombs, rockets and long-range drop tanks. The Griffon 12-powered Firefly T.3 was a version of the FR.1 intended specifically to train observers, the rear cockpit being equipped with the fullest possible range of radio and radar equipment. The Firefly FR.4 (first flown on 25 May 1945) was powered by a Griffon 74 engine driving a Rotol four-bladed propeller and had radiators moved from beneath the nose to leading-edge extensions of the centre-section. The wings were reduced in span and given square tips and the area of the tailfin was increased. Armament was the same as for the Firefly 1 but could also carry two 450kg bombs, 16 x 27kg rockets or eight heavier rockets, or long-range fuel tanks. A modified version for target-towing was the TT.4.
The similarly powered Firefly 5 was produced in three forms, as the NF, FR and AS, all similar externally to the 4. The FR.5 carried the same radar in the starboard wing nacelle as the 4 and was equipped with beam approach, IFF and communications radio. The NF.5 had the same basic radio plus a radio altimeter and other night-flying equipment. The AS.5 was an anti-submarine version and carried special submarine-detection equipment under the wings and fuselage. The Firefly AS.6 was another anti-submarine aircraft, structurally similar to the 5 but with different operational equipment and no defensive armament.
The Firefly 7 of 1953 was produced in two forms, as the AS and T, although it was used mainly as an anti-submarine training aircraft. Powered by a Griffon engine with a 'chin' radiator, the three-seat anti-submarine aircraft carried the latest detection devices and sonobuoys for tracking a target at sea. A new blister-enclosed rear cockpit accommodated two radar operators and the aircraft had elliptical wings without wing radiators and a new tail unit. The final Firefly variant was the U.8/U.9, designed as new or conversions of earlier aircraft to help with the development of guided missiles and equipped to be used as radio-controlled photographic drones.
Firefly fighters and reconnaissance fighters first went into operational service in late 1943 and were mainly used in the Pacific theatre of war against Japanese forces and targets. Successes on the Western Front included a reconnaissance over the German battleship Tirpitz which resulted in the bombing attack by Vought Corsairs and Barracudas on 3 April 1944. Post-war, Fireflies saw action in Korea, flying vast numbers of sorties from British and Australian aircraft carriers, and later in Malaya; finally going out of service in 1956. Firefly production totalled more than 1,700 aircraft of all variants.
Specification
CREW 2
ENGINE 1 x Rolls-Royce "Griffon IIB", 1270kW
WEIGHTS
Take-off weight 6400 kg 14110 lb
Empty weight 4420 kg 9744 lb
DIMENSIONS
Wingspan 13.6 m 45 ft 7 in
Length 11.5 m 38 ft 9 in
Height 4.1 m 13 ft 5 in
Wing area 30.7 m2 330.45 sq ft
PERFORMANCE
Max. speed 509 km/h 316 mph
Ceiling 8530 m 28000 ft
Range w/max.fuel 1720 km 1069 miles
ARMAMENT 4 x 20mm machine-guns, 900kg of bombs
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I like em~! +1
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bump.....
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Firefly would get my vote :aok
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Firefly would get my vote :aok
+1
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+1 here on Firefly, it would give a different plane of a different country.
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The top one reminds me of a uglyspit. +2
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See Rules #2, #4
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because I dont feel like copying and pasting....
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wonder how effective the guns would be...
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Both would be very good additions to the game but I can think of a better one
but not going to try take over the thread
+2
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I liked these two a/c and still think they should get a shot at making it in the game some day.
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I've been wanting the fulmar and firefly for a while now, with the Fulmar (practically useless in the MA) would be great to recreate the Ceylon attack - where the only time Japanese carriers and British carriers clashed.
Firefly I believe would be an interesting addition to the Carrier, it did score quite a few victories although was never in any major engagements.
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The Fulmar could certainly find use in various special events. :aok
However, any time it ran into competent in-period enemy fighters (Bf-109E, A6M2, C.R.202, etc.) it would be very hard-pressed to survive. Even the later Fulmar Mk.II, with the 1,300 HP Rolls-Royce Merlin 30, could only manage a top speed of about 270 MPH, flat-out. That's around 100 MPH slower than the fighters it faced. The Fulmar is a lot like the earlier Battle, and that poor turkey was simply meat on the table whenever it ran into any decent opposition.
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The Fulmar could certainly find use in various special events. :aok
However, any time it ran into competent in-period enemy fighters (Bf-109E, A6M2, C.R.202, etc.) it would be very hard-pressed to survive. Even the later Fulmar Mk.II, with the 1,300 HP Rolls-Royce Merlin 30, could only manage a top speed of about 270 MPH, flat-out. That's around 100 MPH slower than the fighters it faced. The Fulmar is a lot like the earlier Battle, and that poor turkey was simply meat on the table whenever it ran into any decent opposition.
Yeah the Battle was a suicide aircraft no less, I am not sure what was worse - that or the Douglas TBD Devastator, both were underpowered - undergunned, both got wiped out on an occasion and given up after that. Simply heroic what the crews did flying them knowing they were in deep trouble.
I certainly hope neither get put in game, other then for historical context.
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+1 to the Fairey Sisters :aok
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i asked for the Firefly a few months back. got good feedback
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i asked for the Firefly a few months back. got good feedback
Its a pretty interesting aircraft, I don't know the complete details on it but on paper it looks like a pretty great aircraft for a carrier based, kinda curious if it would be perked or not.
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Its a pretty interesting aircraft, I don't know the complete details on it but on paper it looks like a pretty great aircraft for a carrier based, kinda curious if it would be perked or not.
i would hope so
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+1 :aok
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Ive been screaming for this plane since forever. Britain was a major player in the air, and in the naval air. We currently have ONE British industry CV plane and thats a shame. The Firefly would be a fine addition.
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+1 for the ugly flying thingy! :D
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Ive been screaming for this plane since forever. Britain was a major player in the air, and in the naval air. We currently have ONE British industry CV plane and thats a shame. The Firefly would be a fine addition.
I've been requesting the B and C Hurricane (naval version) and the Firefly to upgrade the Carrier list of aircraft.
All seen combat, shot down planes - and fought in several different theaters.
The Hurri B would simply have 12x 303s and pair of 250lb bombs, where Hurri C is the same one we have now with an arresting hook added.
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:rock
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How about the Swordfish? It crippled the Bismark, sank half the Italian fleet at Taranto. Beautiful aircraft.
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That too, just thought these two have the best shot over all but Id love to see the swordfish as well.
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As long as we're talking Fairey products I would love to see the Barracuda added as well.
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:noid
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I'll +1 this ya lil necro bumper :)
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Barracuda sounds nice, but Swordfish anyone?
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Firefly would be a great addition. Ive said it many times
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+1
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The Fire Fly, off hand if I remember the version that actually flew in the war, carried 2 1,000lbs Bombs and 8 rockets. Its four Hispanos had a fairly small ammo Load. Certainly no C-Hog. It would mostly be a bomb truck but could mix it up some and would be great at town busting.
It just seems CVs get busted so easily now maybe its time to put a little more punch onto them. Also a great nod to the great CV fleet of the RN in WW2.