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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: lulu on February 28, 2011, 04:23:21 AM
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I wish to choose my tracers color.
:salute
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Historical colors-
US: 50 cals, M2 cannon
UK: 303s, Hispano 20mm, 50cal MG
DE: MG15, MG81Z, MG131, MG151/20, MK108, MK103...
RU: B20 20mm, 7.62mm (MGs on the Il2), VYa 23mm, 12.7mm (rear gun Il2), NS37...
IT: SAFAT 12.7 and 7.62mm...
full list (http://dasmuppets.com/public/dlamb/wwii_tracercolors.htm)
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I'd rather see tracers use better gfx technology which is nowadays common, instead of the decade-old plain texture animation. Bloom, pixel shading, etc..
Or does AH have that already nowadays? :rolleyes:
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Hey Kweassa :)
I don't think bloom would fit too well with AH's old school crispness, but pixel shading would definitely be an excellent improvement if it was used subtly enough.
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i wish for the ability to determine how bright/dim my tracers are.
:salute
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Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.
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Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.
Same !
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Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.
+2
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Historical tracer colours is definately something I'd like to see.
:aok
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Historical colors-
US: 50 cals, M2 cannon
UK: 303s, Hispano 20mm, 50cal MG
DE: MG15, MG81Z, MG131, MG151/20, MK108, MK103...
RU: B20 20mm, 7.62mm (MGs on the Il2), VYa 23mm, 12.7mm (rear gun Il2), NS37...
IT: SAFAT 12.7 and 7.62mm...
full list (http://dasmuppets.com/public/dlamb/wwii_tracercolors.htm)
Hey moot I assume with the B20's being red the ShVAKS would be the same ?
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I don't know. One of the Russian specialists should know. Maybe Tilt? I don't remember exactly who the ruskie pros are.
The full list in that link says
ShVAK - Shpital'nyj-Vladimirov Aviatsionnaya Krupnokalibernaya -
large caliber aircraft gun designed by Shpitalnyj and Vladimirov
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- APIT - HE
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Ty, I am using a school computer right now so the link was blocked, and so was google when I searched it :p
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Huh.. Thanks for that info.
Might as well copy the whole thing here. I couldnt find ussr and nazi germany flags in same format. A table would be more of a breeze to look up with but that takes too long to make with the forum table system.
RU (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5486118641_743b829c95_o.gif)
DA - Degtyareva Aviatsionnyj - Aviation MG by Degtyareva
- ammunition 7,62 x 54R (calibre*lenght of the cartridge case, R for rimmed case)
- 780 RPM
- muzzle velocity 818 m/s
- projectile weight 9,6 gm
- gun weight 8kg
- tracer color green
ShKAS - Shpital'nyj-Komaritskij Aviatsionnyj Skorostel'nyj -
rapid fire MG designed by Komaritskij
- 7,62 x 54R
- 1800 RPM
- 870 m/s
- 9,6 gm
- 7,1 kg
- green
- ammo belt composition APIT - API - T - API
UB - Universal'nyj Berezina - multi purpose MG designed by Berezin
- UBS - synchronized, UBK - fixed for wings, UBT - flexible
- 12,7 x 108
- 900-1050 RPM (in synchronized instalation 800 RPM)
- 860 m/s
- 52 gm - API
- 25 kg
- white
- APIT - AP - HEI
B-20 - Berezina - designer name
- B-20S - synchronized
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 25 kg
- red
- APIT - HE
ShVAK - Shpital'nyj-Vladimirov Aviatsionnaya Krupnokalibernaya -
large caliber aircraft gun designed by Shpitalnyj and Vladimirov
- 20 x 99R
- 800 RPM
- 860 m/s
- 96 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- APIT - HE
VYa - Volkov and Yartsev - names of designers
- 23 x 152R
- 550 RPM
- 880 m/s
- 200 gm - HE
- 68 kg
- red
- HEIT - API - API
NS-37 - Nudel'man and Suranov - names of designers
- 37 x 195
- 250 RPM
- 900 m/s
- 735 gm - HEI
- 170 kg
- red
- HEIT - APT
- APT - HEIT - HEIT (for Yak-9UT)
NS-45 - Nudel'man and Suranov - names of designers
- 45 x 185
- 250 RPM
- 850 m/s
- 1065 gm - HE
- 170 kg
- yellow
- HEIT - APT
FAB (Fugasnaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba) - general purpose bombs
- FAB-50
- FAB-100
- FAB-250
- FAB-500
- FAB-1000
VAP (Vylivnoy Aviatsionny Pribor) - napalm canister
- VAP-250
AJ-2 - incendiary bombs
AO-10 (Aviatsionnaya Oskolochnyang) - fragmentation bombs
PTAB-2.5 (ProtivoTankovaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba) - anti-armor bombs
RS-82, RS-132 (Reaktivny Snaryad) - general purpose rockets
BRS-82, BRS-132 (Broneboyniy Reaktivny Snaryad) - anti armor rockets
M-13 - incendiary rockets
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DE(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5293/5486721384_dba34dc047_o.gif)
MG15 - Maschinengewehr - machine gun
- 7,92 x 57
- 1000 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 7,1 kg
- white
- AP - AP - APT
MG17
- 7,92 x 57
- 1200 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 12,6 kg
- red
- AP - AP - APT
MG81Z - Zwilling - twins - two MG81 together
- 7,92 x 57
- 3200 RPM
- 715 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 12,9 kg
- white
- AP - APT
MG 131
- 13 x 64B
- 900 RPM
- 750 m/s
- 38,5 gm - AP
- 17 kg
- blue
- HET - AP - HE - AP
MG 151
- 15 x 96
- 700 RPM
- 960 m/s
- 57 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- red
- HET - AP - HE - AP
MG-FF/M
- 20 x 80RB
- 530 RPM
- 700 m/s
- 62 gm - HE
- 26 kg
- yellow
- APIT - HE - HE - MG
MG 151/20
- MG151/20E - version with electric primer
- 20 x 82
- 700 RPM
- 800 m/s
- 92 gm - HE
- 42 kg
- blue
- APIT - HE - HE - MG - MG
MK 101 - Maschinenkanone - automatic cannon
- 30 x 184B
- 230 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 180 kg
- yellow
MK 103
- 30 x 184B
- 360-420 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 141 kg
- yellow
- APT - MG - MG - HE
MK 108
- 30 x 90RB
- 600 RPM
- 505 m/s
- 330 gm - HE
- 60 kg
- yellow
- HEIT - MG
BK 3.7 - Bordkanone - aviation gun
- 37 x 263B
- 160 RPM
- 1170 m/s
- 405 gm - APCR
- 295 kg
- red
- APCRT (for Ju-87 G1)
- HET (for Bf110 BK 3.7 gunpod)
MK214A
- 50 x 419R
- 160 RPM
- 920 m/s
- 1520 gm - HE
- 490 kg
- yellow
- APT - HET
BK 7.5
- 75 x 714R
- 30 RPM
- 790 m/s
- 6800 gm - APCR
- 705 kg
- red
SC (Sprengbombe Cylindrisch) - general purpose bombs
- SC 50
- SC 70
- SC 250
- SC 500
- SC 1000 "Hermann"
- SC 1800 "Satan"
- SC 2000
SD (Splitterbombe Dickwand) - fragmentation bomb
- SD 500
PC (Panzerbombe Cylindrisch) - armor piercing bomb
- PC 1600
AB (Abwurf Behalter) - cluster bombs
- AB 250
- AB 500
- AB 1000
Wf.Gr.21 (WerferGranate) - anti-aircraft rocket
R4M "Orkan" (Rakete 4 kg Minenkopf) - anti-aircraft rocket
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JP(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5486714222_fab1d0a0e9_o.gif)
Type 97
- 7,7 x 58SR
- 900 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 12,7 kg
- yellow
Ho 103
- 12,7 x 81SR
- 800 RPM
- 760 m/s
- 35,4 gm - AP
- 23 kg
- yellow
Ho 5
- 20 x 94
- 750 RPM
- 730 m/s
- 79 gm - HE
- 37 kg
- yellow
Type 99
- 20 x 101RB
- 500 RPM
- 750 m/s
- 127 gm - HE
- 28 kg
- yellow
Ho 155
- 30 x 114
- 400 RPM
- 700 m/s
- 235 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow
250 kg bomb - general purpose
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US(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5486714194_9477640c4d_o.gif)
Browning M2 .30
- 7,62 x 63
- 1200 RPM
- 845 m/s
- 10,9 gm
- 10 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - AP - APIT - API - API
Browning M2 .50
- 12,7 x 99
- 600-850 RPM
- 870 m/s
- 46 gm - AP
- 29 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - HE - AP
AN/M2
- 20 x 110
- 600 PRM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP
M4
- 37 x 145R
- 140-150 RPM
- 610 m/s
- 608 gm - HE
- 96 kg
- red
- HET - HET
M10
- 37 x 145R
- 150-170 RPM
- 610 m/s
- 608 gm - HE
- 109 kg
- red
- HET - HET
M4
- 75 x 350R
- manual loading
- 600 m/s
- 6670 gm - HE
- 405 kg
- red
- HET - HET
M5
- 75 x 350R
- manual loading
- 600 m/s
- 6670 gm - HE
- 184 kg
- red
- HET - HET
- 250 lb bomb - general purpose
- 500 lb bomb - general purpose
- 1000 lb bomb - general purpose
HVAR - High Velocity Aircraft Rocket - general purpose rocket
4,5' rockets - general purpose rocket
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UK(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5258/5486732262_3b4f09c59c_o.gif)
Browning .303
- 7,7 x 56R
- 1150 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 10 kg
- red
- APIT - AP - AP - APIT - API - API
Hispano MkI/II
- 20 x 110
- 600 PRM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 50 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP
- 250 lb bomb - general purpose
- 500 lb bomb - general purpose
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PL(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5300/5486714262_8d9f3d9418_o.gif)
PWU wz.33
- 7,92 x 57
- 1000 RPM
- 765 m/s
- 11,5 gm
- 11,5 kg
- red
PuW 12.5 - general purpose bombs
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IT(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5486118695_d8b6d25361_o.gif)
BREDA SAFAT 7.7
- 7,7 x 56R
- 800 - 900 RPM
- 762 m/s
- 11,3 gm
- 12,5 kg
- red
BREDA SAFAT 12.7
- 12,7 x 81SR
- 700 RPM
- 760 m/s
- 35,4 gm - AP
- 29 kg
- red
- 50 kg bomb - general purpose
- 100 kg bomb - general purpose
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FR(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5486714278_7d289e59ef_o.gif)
MAC-1934
- 7,5 x 54
- 1200 - 1500 RPM
- 830 m/s
- 9,5 gm
- 8,5 kg
- yellow
HS.404
- 20 x 110
- 700 RPM
- 880 m/s
- 130 gm - HE
- 60 kg
- yellow
- HET - AP
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HU(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5486118705_4e1a5a8e2c_o.gif)
40mm 36M
- 40 x 311R
- 150 RPM
- 850 m/s
- 955 gm- HE
- 438 kg
- red
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LEGEND
T - Tracer bullet
AP - Armor-Piercing bullet
APT - Armor-Piercing with Tracer
API - Armor-Piercing Incendary
APIT - Armor-Piercing Incendary Tracer
APCRT - Armor-Piercing Compsoite Rigid Tracer (hard core shell)
HE - High-Explosive shell
HEI - High-Explosive Incendary shell
HET - High-Explosive with Tracer
HEIT - High-Explosive Incendary Tracer
MG - M-Geschoss, thin-shell High Explosive shell
engine mounting - firing thru propeler axis
RPM - rounds per minute
rpg - rounds per gun
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+1 historical tracer colors.
how representative of the actual color would the tracers be? i mean i dont expect to see royal blue stuff zipping past me... maybe i should though?
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I like the idea, I would still have mine off though.
Wich makes the point of turning tracers off for specific planes.
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I know a way, but it is only possible to use one color for all tracers atm. So all would be red or blue or yellow, etc. Also, it is terrain specific. Only one custom tracer color per terrain (with what we have to work with now).
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One thing I'd also like to see regarding tracers is distiction between regular and smoke traces. Right now all traces leave a well defined smoke trail. In real life there was spme slight somke emission from .50 cal tracers for example but nothing as clear as we have in the game and same goes for rifle calibre rounds. Germans for example widely used smoke tracers. MG151/20 smoke tracers left a clear and thick spiraling smoke trail. MG151/20 rounds leave spiraling trail currently...it could be a bit thicker tho. So in short I'd like to see the smoke removed from weapons that didn't typically fire dedicated smoke tracers.
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Wings of Prey uses different colour tracers, the effect is way cool.
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My Grandpa told me that their 30 Calibers shot Red,White, then green tracers in order. NOTE He was in the Marines. Not air force.
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Some thought should be given to those who may have difficulty seeing certain
colours of tracers (IE: those who are colourblind, old farts).
Perhaps a check list in preferences?
---Tracers---
[ ] Original (current)
[ ] Historical
[ ] Custom
Custom would have a drop down list, similar to the current individual sound levels
list. It would include all types of weapons and tracer colours. Possibly categorized
by Country -> Plane -> weapon platforms for selected plane.
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Good footage of the smoke tracers used by the Luftwaffe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIqsDBYyXro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIqsDBYyXro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aqJwHdMDK0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aqJwHdMDK0)
.50 cal tracers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Mvy7uNHxY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Mvy7uNHxY)
Some smoke trails can be seen but it isn't IMO as prominent as in the game.
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40mm 36M
- 40 x 311R
- 150 RPM
- 850 m/s
- 955 gm- HE
- 438 kg
- red
Me 210 :devil
good idea about the tracers :aok
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We got this yet ? Did not see any last night ...
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Some thought should be given to those who may have difficulty seeing certain
colours of tracers (IE: those who are colourblind, old farts).
Perhaps a check list in preferences?
---Tracers---
[ ] Original (current)
[ ] Historical
[ ] Custom
Custom would have a drop down list, similar to the current individual sound levels
list. It would include all types of weapons and tracer colours. Possibly categorized
by Country -> Plane -> weapon platforms for selected plane.
i do have issues seeing my tracers in certain situations but it has more to do with the cloud layer 'washing out' the yellow tracers. would settle for all tracers being the same color but user specified.. red-orange would be great lol
maybe i need to learn to aim w/o them? ahaha :lol
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I wish to choose my tracers color.
:salute
+50, I've always wanted blue tracers streaming out of my Dora.
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Just took this pic offline. It's unedited.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1918/ahss16.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/ahss16.jpg/)
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Just took this pic offline. It's unedited.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1918/ahss16.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/ahss16.jpg/)
the colored smoke is cool, but is there any way to changed the color of the actual round? (the yellow part)
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Smoke colored. Not for me.
I thought to be able to change thew yellow component of the tracers only.
:salute
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Yeah , the gun powder should burn the right color .
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Best I could do with what we have. I don't see anybody else jumping in. Good luck with yer wish.
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Anyone asked hitech if adding multiple tracer colors will impact our FPS? Obviously he knows about the colors. The question is, why over all of these years has he not coaded for them? Granted we would probably have the same choice as with skins to see only the default tracer.
Something seemingly this simple has been left as is for so many years other than the smoke spirals.