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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ap1102 on March 03, 2011, 07:24:45 AM
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To start with Yes I am farmimg perks for a b29 mission next Tueday.
My issue is I landed 19000 in damage from 4 town centers in Midwar this AM. I was flying b26 formation with the 1000lb' er bomb load. I only landed 3.02 points. In the orange arena last night i was using same plane and bomb load with 9000 and 12000 in damage and was getting 8 and 9 points. Is the midwar arena score for damage different than the LW arenas? If so why? Same plane , same loadout, same risk of getting shot down or missing taget.
Rhino
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Take a Boston and hit a town with the 4 500ibs....you will get more perks then landing 30000 damage in a lanc. You have to look at the OBJ number....higher it is the more points you get for killing town buildings ect ect
:salute
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First, you can't directly "landed damage" message to perk points (or score, too).
Second, the perks gained by bombing are computed in a similar way as the perks for shooting down enemy planes, it's just that instead of your plane's ENY value the OBJ value is used - which means there can be differences between different arenas, as planes can have different ENY ratings in different arenas. And of course that also means the perk modifier applies, too. You get much more perks when flying on the outnumbered side.
And the most effective perk farm bomber is the Ki-67.
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The perk bonus may also play a part in this too. Higher perk bonus = more perks. You get a higher perk bonus when your side is outnumbered. I don't know if that is all true since I never really looked into it though.
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First, you can't directly "landed damage" message to perk points (or score, too).
Second, the perks gained by bombing are computed in a similar way as the perks for shooting down enemy planes, it's just that instead of your plane's ENY value the OBJ value is used - which means there can be differences between different arenas, as planes can have different ENY ratings in different arenas. And of course that also means the perk modifier applies, too. You get much more perks when flying on the outnumbered side.
And the most effective perk farm bomber is the Ki-67.
Redundant much? Im saying the exact same thing :aok
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Redundant much? Im saying the exact same thing :aok
You were saying it while I was typing...
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You were saying it while is was typing...
ahhhhh :D
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OK snail thanks. Im goona try a b5n2 with 40 OBJ. see what happens.
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i've taken lancs up. bombed 3 towns, and landed 24,000+ damage, and gotten 9 perks for it. i dont remember the perk modifier at the time. i always take 18 500lb bombs, and 1 4000lb cookie bomb. have you tried taking your bombs straight down main street, hitting the cluster of buildings? that 1 4000lb cookie bomb is great, if dropped directly on the cluster of buildings.
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OK snail thanks. Im goona try a b5n2 with 40 OBJ. see what happens.
Drop them on enemy tanks :)
Use the ki-67 for regular bombing runs, and a plane like the B5N for tank hunting.
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b5n2 5600 damage 1.45 perkies 40 obj. it appears to be all relative ATM no matter what plane. 1 bish 4 rooks no knights/ yes i was a rook.
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1 bish 4 rooks no knights/ yes i was a rook.
= abysmal perk modifier ;)
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Here's a secret....
I took a G4M1 Betty formation and plastered a town. Full screen of results. landed about 8-9 perks (ENY was in my favor).
Exact same thing the next sortie, bombed another town, same full screen of results.... Only this time a 109K4 trailed me all the way rtb. I ended up shooting him down after taking a lot of damage, but landed all 3 planes.
30 perks!
Back to back sorties. Similar "points" but very different perks.
The secret? Get kills. The OBJ against buildings is very low. The OBJ against planes is much better. Trick is surviving.
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The secret? Get kills. The OBJ against buildings is very low. The OBJ against planes is much better. Trick is surviving.
That's another reason take the Ki-67 over the Boston or B5N.
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The Betty's rear 20mm is of such poor quality that targets sitting 200 off your tail are extremely hard to hit. I don't know if this is a bug or what... I never have this much trouble landing hits with the Bf109E 20mm and this should be of similar trajectory....
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The Betty's rear 20mm is of such poor quality that targets sitting 200 off your tail are extremely hard to hit. I don't know if this is a bug or what... I never have this much trouble landing hits with the Bf109E 20mm and this should be of similar trajectory....
I don't know if you use the ki67 but tailgunning with 20mm's is WAY different than with 50cals. Takes a bit of time to get used to the bullets trajectory, maybe its due to the wind affecting more the larger shells? lots of parameters there...
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MidWar is for fighting not farming. That's the problem you having.
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MidWar is for fighting not farming. That's the problem you having.
Efficient perk farming means you have to jump to the outnumbered country and attack the other ones. If you try to avoid any fight by doing it the other way around, you won't get much perks. ;)
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I don't know if you use the ki67 but tailgunning with 20mm's is WAY different than with 50cals. Takes a bit of time to get used to the bullets trajectory, maybe its due to the wind affecting more the larger shells? lots of parameters there...
If I recall correctly, the Betty's 20mm cannon is the same exact one used in the A6M2. You have to aim a tad higher with it (due to horrible ballistics) than you would with the B-29's 20mm, or any other 20mm for that matter. The one thing I've noticed about the B-29's 20mm though, is that it sprays a little, kind of like the Ostwind.
On another note, is it me or does the Ju-87's OBJ seem a tad high (11 OBJ)? Am I missing something here? This is in LWA's I might add... :headscratch:
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I don't know if you use the ki67 but tailgunning with 20mm's is WAY different than with 50cals. Takes a bit of time to get used to the bullets trajectory, maybe its due to the wind affecting more the larger shells? lots of parameters there...
The 20mm in the Ki67 is not the same gun as in the Betty. Just FYI. It's like comparing a A6M5 to a A6M2 in the cannon department.
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b5n2 5600 damage 1.45 perkies 40 obj. it appears to be all relative ATM no matter what plane. 1 bish 4 rooks no knights/ yes i was a rook.
use formation of 67's or bettys.. more bombs = more damage = more perks
and as snailman points out, be on the low # country.
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To start with Yes I am farmimg perks for a b29 mission next Tueday.
My issue is I landed 19000 in damage from 4 town centers in Midwar this AM. I was flying b26 formation with the 1000lb' er bomb load. I only landed 3.02 points. In the orange arena last night i was using same plane and bomb load with 9000 and 12000 in damage and was getting 8 and 9 points. Is the midwar arena score for damage different than the LW arenas? If so why? Same plane , same loadout, same risk of getting shot down or missing taget.
Rhino
ki67!
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i take betty's up to about 20K with the 4 bomb load - drop 2 on each "big" section of a town - fly to another town and drop the other two.
I always come back with 13 - 20 perks.
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