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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tyrannis on March 05, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
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havent wished for it in awhile. but can our shermans have the 105mm howitzer? it should be easy to add. just add it on as a gun option witrh the m4(75) model.
would be a great town destroyer tank.
Specifications for M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer
Overall length: 6.197m
Overall width: 2.67m
Overall height: 2.94m
Weight, Combat Loaded: 31.48t
Weight, Unstowed: 28.486t
Actual Thickness, Angle w/Vertical
Hull Thickness:
Front: 63mm/47 degrees
Sides: 38mm/0 degrees
Rear: 38mm/10 degrees
Top: 19mm/83-90 degrees
Turret Thickness:
Front: 76mm/30 degrees
Sides: 51mm/0-5 degrees
Rear: 51mm/0 degrees
Top: 25.4mm/90 degrees
Gun Shield: 91mm/0 degrees
Armament: M4 105mm howitzer (X1), M1919A4 7.62mm machine gun (X2), M2 12.7mm heavy machine gun (X1).
Ammunition: 66 rounds 105mm, 4,000 rounds 7.62mm, 600 rounds 12.7mm.
Engine: Continental R975-C4 9-cylinder 4-cycle radial air cooled (15,945cc displacement, 460hp/2,400rpm output)
Maximum speed: 38.6hm/h, Cruising Range: about 161km, Crew: 5
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/56014sherman/sherman_expl.htm
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/M4A3E8105.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/ACY13207-450.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/10054498t2.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/26_42786_906846c5742aabb.jpg)
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havent wished for it in awhile. but can our shermans have the 105mm howitzer? it should be easy to add. just add it on as a gun option witrh the m4(75) model.
would be a great town destroyer tank.
Specifications for M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer
Overall length: 6.197m
Overall width: 2.67m
Overall height: 2.94m
Weight, Combat Loaded: 31.48t
Weight, Unstowed: 28.486t
Actual Thickness, Angle w/Vertical
Hull Thickness:
Front: 63mm/47 degrees
Sides: 38mm/0 degrees
Rear: 38mm/10 degrees
Top: 19mm/83-90 degrees
Turret Thickness:
Front: 76mm/30 degrees
Sides: 51mm/0-5 degrees
Rear: 51mm/0 degrees
Top: 25.4mm/90 degrees
Gun Shield: 91mm/0 degrees
Armament: M4 105mm howitzer (X1), M1919A4 7.62mm machine gun (X2), M2 12.7mm heavy machine gun (X1).
Ammunition: 66 rounds 105mm, 4,000 rounds 7.62mm, 600 rounds 12.7mm.
Engine: Continental R975-C4 9-cylinder 4-cycle radial air cooled (15,945cc displacement, 460hp/2,400rpm output)
Maximum speed: 38.6hm/h, Cruising Range: about 161km, Crew: 5
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/56014sherman/sherman_expl.htm
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/M4A3E8105.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/ACY13207-450.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/10054498t2.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/26_42786_906846c5742aabb.jpg)
Stug First...
-1 for the 105mm
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Stug First...
-1 for the 105mm
stug would be alot harder to put in the game than the 105mm would be.
just saying.
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stug would be alot harder to put in the game than the 105mm would be.
just saying.
That would be only IF HTC cuts corners with their 3D models.
Something tells me they don't.
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That would be only IF HTC cuts corners with their 3D models.
Something tells me they don't.
P47M
Also, it looks like they just need to change the barrel thickness; doesn't sound to difficult.
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Im all for adding more variants to AH, especially if the chassis is already available in the game. I would like to the the M3 remodeled, and about 4 more variants of the SdKfz 251 added.
The 105 would be nice, but Im not sure what it would add.
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Im all for adding more variants to AH, especially if the chassis is already available in the game. I would like to the the M3 remodeled, and about 4 more variants of the SdKfz 251 added.
The 105 would be nice, but Im not sure what it would add.
it could act as mobile artillery in a way (they were manly used for artillery purposes) plus that 105mm can pack a punch.
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I'd love to see the Sherman 105, though as stated it's an Infantry Support tank and not really good vs other tanks. From what I understand it could fire some shells (not the standard mortars) which would be nice for laying smoke screens.
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it could act as mobile artillery in a way (they were manly used for artillery purposes) plus that 105mm can pack a punch.
What was the rate of fire? How much more does it offer vs the M4/75mm Sherman we already have?
The current big boy in AH tank HE shells is the German Tiger's 88mm, its HE shells weigh 10.06kg and have .97kg worth of TNT. The 105mm weighs 14.97kg and have 2.18kg of TNT. That doesn't really say much because the 88mm is that much further ahead than the Soviet 85mm HE and HTC gave them both the same damage value.
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+1 for the M Jug!!!
P47M
hey wait a sec.......................... ...... :headscratch:
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stug would be alot harder to put in the game than the 105mm would be.
just saying.
if you even read HiTechs post in another thread they said that they were re-working the GV's so they can move without having to acellerate forward/backwards to get into position.
-100trillion for the 105
+1trillion for the stug
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if you even read HiTechs post in another thread they said that they were re-working the GV's so they can move without having to acellerate forward/backwards to get into position.
-100trillion for the 105
+1trillion for the stug
yea i read it. your point? :headscratch:
to add the stug they'd still have to create a whole new tank.
to create the 105 they'd just have to create a new barrel for the sherman.
105mm alot faster.
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if you even read HiTechs post in another thread they said that they were re-working the GV's so they can move without having to acellerate forward/backwards to get into position.
-100trillion for the 105
+1trillion for the stug
I didn't see that thread (or maybe I did???), but if and when they do update the gv's so that tracked vehicles can perform a modified "zero degree" turn (lock 1 tread, move the other), that would be a HUGE step in being able to add in AFV's with no turret. I can see the StuG III G or StuG IV, Hetzer, and Su-100 in AH's future real easy. ;)
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havent wished for it in awhile. but can our shermans have the 105mm howitzer? it should be easy to add. just add it on as a gun option witrh the m4(75) model.
would be a great town destroyer tank.
Specifications for M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer
Overall length: 6.197m
Overall width: 2.67m
Overall height: 2.94m
Weight, Combat Loaded: 31.48t
Weight, Unstowed: 28.486t
Actual Thickness, Angle w/Vertical
Hull Thickness:
Front: 63mm/47 degrees
Sides: 38mm/0 degrees
Rear: 38mm/10 degrees
Top: 19mm/83-90 degrees
Turret Thickness:
Front: 76mm/30 degrees
Sides: 51mm/0-5 degrees
Rear: 51mm/0 degrees
Top: 25.4mm/90 degrees
Gun Shield: 91mm/0 degrees
Armament: M4 105mm howitzer (X1), M1919A4 7.62mm machine gun (X2), M2 12.7mm heavy machine gun (X1).
Ammunition: 66 rounds 105mm, 4,000 rounds 7.62mm, 600 rounds 12.7mm.
Engine: Continental R975-C4 9-cylinder 4-cycle radial air cooled (15,945cc displacement, 460hp/2,400rpm output)
Maximum speed: 38.6hm/h, Cruising Range: about 161km, Crew: 5
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/56014sherman/sherman_expl.htm
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/M4A3E8105.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/ACY13207-450.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/10054498t2.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/26_42786_906846c5742aabb.jpg)
HOLY PERKS! :eek:
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What was the rate of fire? How much more does it offer vs the M4/75mm Sherman we already have?
The current big boy in AH tank HE shells is the German Tiger's 88mm, its HE shells weigh 10.06kg and have .97kg worth of TNT. The 105mm weighs 14.97kg and have 2.18kg of TNT. That doesn't really say much because the 88mm is that much further ahead than the Soviet 85mm HE and HTC gave them both the same damage value.
The 105mm howitzer was carried in a M52 combination mount and a vision cupola was fitted for the commander with a small hatch for the loader. It could fire M1 shells at angles from -10 to +35 degrees at a maximum range of 11500m. About 500 of the M4A3 (105mm) were produced at the Chrysler factory in Detroit from May to September 1944. From September 1944 horizontal volute spring suspension was introduced on the M4A3 (105mm) together with the wider center-guide T66 tracks. The M4A3 (105mm) were deployed to European Theatre from July 1944, and played an indispensable role in the destruction of enemy positions by the U.S. infantry fighting on the front lines.
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/35251sherman105/sherman105.htm
couldnt find anything about the rate of fire. unless the 105mm howitzer in the sherman is the exact same as the anti-tank gun.
plus it can fire heat round. meaning it could engage other tanks. 105mm heat round would nock a t34 or panzer out in 1 shot.
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I restored the M4A3 (Late) (105) at the Texas military forces museum and the manuals give the HEAT round penetration as 6 inches at any range. So even the tiger is in danger, the 105 round is the same as the towed 105. 2 were in the HQ of each tank BN.
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i'm guessing tyrannis isn't getting enough kills in the 76mm sherman..
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Actually the M4 Sherman with the 105mm in WoT is a fearsome beast.
Move it over here where the first guy that hits wins and it won't be quite as well loved.
However I'd love to see it as an option or a perked varient.
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i'm guessing tyrannis isn't getting enough kills in the 76mm sherman..
i dont GV anymore. i see no point to it. i used to love gv'ing. had over 300perks from it.
but then it just suddenly changed. ppl stoped trying to take gv bases and went to just camping the space inbetween sniping eachother until they get bored&log off.
or if your a small platoon of tanks assaulting a gv field, then the defenders will just spawncamp you till you get tired of being spawnkilled.
i droped from over 300perks to 164 from just being spawn killed alone. so i stoped gv'ing.
the 105mm sherman tho is one of my favorite. and i would pick up gv'ing again if it was added.
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could you imagine the whining though? with all the people in WoT crying about artillery just imagine what would happen here. BTW who would want some squishy tank with an oversized gun for some insane price tag?
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could you imagine the whining though? with all the people in WoT crying about artillery just imagine what would happen here. BTW who would want some squishy tank with an oversized gun for some insane price tag?
I restored the M4A3 (Late) (105) at the Texas military forces museum and the manuals give the HEAT round penetration as 6 inches at any range. So even the tiger is in danger, the 105 round is the same as the towed 105. 2 were in the HQ of each tank BN.
someone asking for the stug is calling the sherman squishy? lolol.
anyways. the 105mm would be good for taking out buildings plus other tanks. it can engage a tiger on allmost equal grounds (except armor of course)
and you must not be very good at WoT. otherwise you'd know the 105mm sherman ISENT full artillery. its a tank that was used as mobile artillery and in some cases to engage heavy tnks (reason why they came with HEAT rounds).
and as ive stated allready, it wouldnt be hard to add to the game.
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the 105mm would be good for taking out buildings plus other tanks. it can engage a tiger on allmost equal grounds (except armor of course)
and you must not be very good at WoT. otherwise you'd know the 105mm sherman ISENT full artillery. its a tank that was used as mobile artillery and in some cases to engage heavy tnks (reason why they came with HEAT rounds).
and as ive stated allready, it wouldnt be hard to add to the game.
the sherman is a very squishy vehicle, i killed one in a t34/76. and the gun on that thing is rediculously horrible. like i said, who would want some oversized gun on a wet paper towel?
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the sherman is a very squishy vehicle, i killed one in a t34/76. and the gun on that thing is rediculously horrible. like i said, who would want some oversized gun on a wet paper towel?
cool story bro.
ive nocked out t24s and t34/85's in my m4 aswell.
and ive stated the reasons why, as have other people.
go back to your stug thread :lol
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cool story bro.
ive nocked out t24s and t34/85's in my m4 aswell.
and ive stated the reasons why, as have other people.
go back to your stug thread :lol
have you ever taken in the fact that im talking about AH here and not WoT? it seems that the idea has crashed into your thick skull
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Add it up, as well as a Kv-2 to match it or an ISU-152
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have you ever taken in the fact that im talking about AH here and not WoT? it seems that the idea has crashed into your thick skull
is your skull too thick to realize im talking about AH too?
jeez man, go back to your stug thread. not gonna have mine locked because of some 14 yr olds stupidity.
@imowface. sure. all for more russian tanks aswell.
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IS-2 :noid
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is your skull too thick to realize im talking about AH too?
jeez man, go back to your stug thread. not gonna have mine locked because of some 14 yr olds stupidity.
also, love to see you call the "jumbo" sherman squishy. seeing how it had thicker armor than even the tiger.
@imowface. sure. all for more russian tanks aswell.
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From what you wrote... It's easy to be confused....... Here in AH, T24 is a pilot; flies in Wings of Terror. So if you and he are doing some "don't ask don't tell" things well fine, but we don't want to know.... And I doubt you would ever knock him up. He's a dude, dood.
is your skull too thick to realize im talking about AH too?
jeez man, go back to your stug thread. not gonna have mine locked because of some 14 yr olds stupidity.
@imowface. sure. all for more russian tanks aswell.
cool story bro.
ive nocked up t24.
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From what you wrote... It's easy to be confused....... Here in AH, T24 is a pilot; flies in Wings of Terror. So if you and he are doing some "don't ask don't tell" things well fine, but we don't want to know.... And I doubt you would ever knock him up. He's a dude, dood.
i ment t34. didnt know ppl would get so worked up over a typo. :headscratch:
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:lol :cheers: :lol
i ment t34. didnt know ppl would get so worked up over a typo. :headscratch:
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And I doubt you would ever knock him up. He's a dude, dood.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl