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Title: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 17, 2011, 11:17:59 AM
I wish the Schräge Musik gun packages for the 110 were available, I think they might be fun against lancasters.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: gyrene81 on March 17, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
data...need more data...where's your research?
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: StokesAk on March 17, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
When the 110 is updated to AHII standards, then they might consider putting it in.

I would do some research to make it easier for HTC when to do want to updated the 110 graphics model.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Lusche on March 17, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
When the 110 is updated to AHII standards, then they might consider putting it in.

Very unlikely, as we hardly will get an additional nightfighter version with draggy but useless (for AH) radar antennae and other equipment.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: StokesAk on March 17, 2011, 12:19:24 PM
Very unlikely, as we hardly will get an additional nightfighter version with draggy but useless (for AH) radar antennae and other equipment.

Excuse my post, I thought it was just another gunpack, I didn't know it had anything to do with the night fighter variant.

Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Lusche on March 17, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
Another thing coming to my mind....

Due to lag issues, someone hoping to simply fly under the Lancaster's belly and shoot the bomber with oblique guns with impunity might be in for a surprise ;)
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Dahl on March 17, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
Gentlemen-allow me some time to poke around as I would like
a little 'Jazz' also...All I remember is an upward firing cannon in
conjuction with the Ger.version of 'Obo' and grid vectoring. A
little while later JG300 came up with the 'Wilde Sau' stategy-
hit the bombers with flood lights and then ram 'em. (?) How do
you translate 'Kamikaze' into Deusch anyway? After the arrival
of the 8th Air Force in England...well,things changed...
"Ich kampfe nur,um mein Land,Familie und Freunde zu schutzen."
 :salute

Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: gyrene81 on March 17, 2011, 12:28:26 PM
sometimes lusche makes me want to kiss him...   :confused:  :uhoh  

i invoke manlaw 42 on that one...  :D
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 17, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
They were just upward firing cannons, the japs built some planes with them too.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: morfiend on March 17, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
They were just upward firing cannons, the Japanese built some planes with them too.




  Fixed!



    :salute
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 17, 2011, 10:24:04 PM
it wasn't broken
 :salute
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: gyrene81 on March 18, 2011, 07:43:40 AM
They were just upward firing cannons, the japs built some planes with them too.
where is your research? you're gonna need that or it's just another sugar coma induced pie in the sky "kewl i want" item.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 18, 2011, 08:18:59 AM
it wasn't broken
 :salute

It indeed was.

 :salute
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: LLogann on March 18, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
You were the only one that had to look that up, we knew, thanks. 

They were just upward firing cannons, the japs built some planes with them too.

I lost somebody at Pearl, my thoughts of the Japanese have been noted on several occasions.  However, I would never use that term to speak of them.

it wasn't broken
 :salute
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 18, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
Jap is not a derogatory term, it's shot for Japanese.  Just like the the Brits (short for British) calling Americans Yanks (short for yankees).

Please don't go looking for things to get offended over needlessly.
 :salute
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 18, 2011, 12:27:34 PM
Jap is not a derogatory term, it's shot for Japanese.  Just like the the Brits (short for British) calling Americans Yanks (short for yankees).

Please don't go looking for things to get offended over needlessly.
 :salute

Go to Japan and start saying, "Hey, you Japs need any help with your reactor?"

Not derogatory at all.


wrongway
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: gyrene81 on March 18, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
*hijack*

actually wrongway, in japan it would be derogatory to address them by their nationality regardless...but not because they put any stock in the american version of political correctness.

i'm not one for being pc myself...i'm half s. korean and grew up with numerous terms being used to identify me...personally, anyone who uses the politically correct b.s. to get offended on behalf of someone else, needs to vacate this planet...only in american and canada are people silly enough to be that way while the rest of world population could care less about political correctness.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 18, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
*hijack*

actually wrongway, in japan it would be derogatory to address them by their nationality regardless...but not because they put any stock in the american version of political correctness.

i'm not one for being pc myself...i'm half s. korean and grew up with numerous terms being used to identify me...personally, anyone who uses the politically correct b.s. to get offended on behalf of someone else, needs to vacate this planet...only in american and canada are people silly enough to be that way while the rest of world population could care less about political correctness.

All this nonsense actually inspired me to check wikipedia for an answer.
Although I will never believe there is any reason to get offended over shortening a name.  Jap has only been considered offensive by some people in particular countries after pearl harbor.
In 1905 a road in texas was even named Jap Road in honor of a popular local rice farmer from Japan.

In short, it says that the word is offensive in the United States and England but the term only became derogatory during and after WW2 but was not offensive at all before that.
In Singapore, Australia and Hong Kong it is used freely as a non offensive word.  And in 1970, the Japanese fashion designer Kenzo Takada opened the "Jungle Jap" boutique in Paris.

Now I'm tempted to wonder if I should be offended because someone thought I might be a bit of a racist but that would just continue the cycle and create more BS.

Will it ever be politically incorrect to make fun of the French over their post-Napolean prowess on the battlefield?
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: VonMessa on March 18, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
Ask my grandfather, who spent 4 years in the South Pacific if he means "Jap" as a term of endearment...

 :rolleyes:

It is all in the context and the intent.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Dahl on March 19, 2011, 12:47:45 AM
This thread has taken on a new life all its own. OK,here's my two cents worth;
Years ago, I married the only daughter of a Man (W.W.Cooper) that actually
lived thru the horrors of the 'Baatan Death March' and the horrors that followed.
To my knowledge,the only time this frail old Man had shown any emotions at all
over his ordeal decades ealier was to simply put his head in my lap and sob
uncontrollably. And that was his final release from years of anguish...
W.W. left this world a long time ago, followed shortly by his wife,Martha.
By the way,he upped because of the bombing/rape/pillage of Singapor.

To All Who Served our Country:  :salute






Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: LLogann on March 19, 2011, 02:56:46 AM
See Rules #4, #6
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Chalenge on March 19, 2011, 05:30:53 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re:each to their own.
Post by: Dahl on March 19, 2011, 08:05:55 AM
See Rules #4, #6
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Meatwad on March 19, 2011, 10:07:35 AM
I wish the Schräge Musik gun packages for the 110 were available, I think they might be fun against lancasters.

Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?
Title: Re:each to their own.
Post by: Dahl on March 19, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
See Rules #4, #6
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Dahl on March 19, 2011, 10:49:51 AM
Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?
:lol  :lol  :lol
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: gyrene81 on March 19, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
not... first, we do not have night time where the op would want to use the weapons...second, there are no night fighters in ah...third, most of the bombers one encounters in the arenas have belly turrets so the tactics used with those weapons would be as rewarding as a 6 oclock attack using existing aircraft.
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Rob52240 on March 19, 2011, 12:57:36 PM
Isnt Schräge Musik the stuff thats get played in elevators?

no thats muzak
Schräge means a few things in German, it can mean Jazz, slanted or strange.

And as far as the term Brit being offensive, that's just crazy talk.

Can we get back on topic or just drop the topic instead of arguing about what offends strangers?
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on March 19, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: LLogann on March 19, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
Okay............ Using that American badword really had nothing to do with being taken into custody by Metropolitan Police.  Apparently they take their karaoke wayyyyyyy too seriously though.   :(  Heck, I speak English!!!  But I digress. 

Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Dahl on March 19, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
not... first, we do not have night time where the op would want to use the weapons...second, there are no night fighters in ah...third, most of the bombers one encounters in the arenas have belly turrets so the tactics used with those weapons would be as rewarding as a 6 o'clock attack using existing aircraft.
Okie Doke, got it. It looked good on paper,anyway. :headscratch:
I shall now quietly listen to some elevator music.
 :rofl
Title: Re: Schräge Musik
Post by: Skyguns MKII on March 20, 2011, 12:07:53 AM
wished for this a while back

(http://i55.tinypic.com/6qekxw.jpg)