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Title: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 02, 2011, 08:10:38 PM
I've been playing the game for a few years and now that im really getting into the aviation world i started playing online. I really like the P-38 just wondering which of the 3 is the best? I like to dogfight but prefer the attack role.
Thanks :salute
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Plazus on April 02, 2011, 08:17:27 PM
Attack role, chose the P38L. It carries more ord and the rocket configuration has less drag than that of the P38J. For pure dogfighter role, all three models are great. The P38G has the tightest turn radius of the three. The P38J and L variants have nearly identical performance, with the L having boosted airlerons which improve roll rate. It really just boils down to personal preference.
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 02, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
 :aok Thanks ive mainly been flying the L  :salute
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Guppy35 on April 04, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
P38G naturally :)

Don't listen to those J and L drivers!
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Soulyss on April 04, 2011, 12:11:51 AM
To follow up on what Plazus was saying the 38L is the best for hauling ordnance, it carries more with the smallest drag penalty once that ordnance is expended.  The J/L weigh more than the G does but have more powerful engines, the extra power will help vertical performance, and they fight uphill better than the G does.  Some people believe that the J handles better than the L, I can't speak to that directly as I never flew the L very much (I just like the skin options on the J more).  The J and L have the same engines, the same airframe and the same weight in game, the L has the boosted ailerons which will help roll rate at high speed and the dive recovery flaps (not dive brakes), as a result the performance is very similar. 

These days I fly the G for the most part because I think it looks better and I like the history associated with the F-H models more so than the later J and L series.  The G carries less internal fuel so be aware that it will have shorter legs for the same fuel load than the other two it also lacks WEP so vertical performance isn't quite as good either, most will say that it turns better as well although I'm not sure how true that is anymore since an error was found awhile back and a few hundred pounds of weight was added as a result.
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: lulu on April 04, 2011, 01:21:10 PM
No Matter.

With my spittie i will shoot down all p38 models and pilots.

rat-tat-tat-tatttt-ttt


ck your 6!


 :neener:
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: MachFly on April 04, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
No Matter.

With my spittie i will shoot down all p38 models and pilots.

rat-tat-tat-tatttt-ttt


ck your 6!


 :neener:


:rofl
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: TheRapier on April 04, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
L also has the dive flaps which help with compressibility marginally. Main thing with the 38s and diving is to control the speed so that you don't lawn dart.
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Silat on April 04, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
A real peelot flies the L because it has more closet space for your collection of high heels...................

Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 04, 2011, 06:56:20 PM
Thanks a lot guys I'm still playing with it and deciding which i like the best  :aok :salute
Hope to see some of you guys in the skies :airplane:
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Traveler on April 06, 2011, 04:56:22 PM
I've been playing the game for a few years and now that im really getting into the aviation world i started playing online. I really like the P-38 just wondering which of the 3 is the best? I like to dogfight but prefer the attack role.
Thanks :salute

Check out the 113th Lucky Strikes, a Knight, Late War, Squad that uses the P38 in both the attack and fighter mode.  We fly every Saturday evening starting at 7:00 PM EDST, Vox 113.  Come wing up , check out our AHWIKI page .
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 07, 2011, 02:58:02 PM
Traveler- Thanks for the invite i'm gonna be a little busy for another week or so but before if i get on ill let you know  :aok
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: TwinBoom on April 07, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
I prefer The G for most everything

I will use the L if im flying into a horde and need speed to extend to a better vantage point

J is overrated IMO :neener:
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: fuzeman on April 07, 2011, 05:59:29 PM
Note performance of the 'dive flap' isn't just drop flap and not compress. Combat trim and the need to deploy the flap before you dive can greatly effect it's effect.
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 07, 2011, 07:27:39 PM
So then which model has the dive flap? Often when i am using the 38 for attack i get to altitude and dive bomb on the target? Thanks
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 07, 2011, 07:32:57 PM
Note performance of the 'dive flap' isn't just drop flap and not compress. Combat trim and the need to deploy the flap before you dive can greatly effect it's effect.

Combat trim?  I hope you mean that you shouldn't use combat trim if you're flying a P-38, let alone using the dive flaps on the P-38L.  Another important thing to keep in mind that improperly manually trimmed P-38Ls can also decrease the effectiveness of the dive flaps, which is why I always recommend trying to keep the elevator trim as close to approximate neutral as possible, with maybe a notch or two below neutral.

Another thing with the dive flaps on the P-38L is that they can also be used to aid in high speed maneuvering as high speed flaps.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 07, 2011, 07:36:19 PM
So then which model has the dive flap? Often when i am using the 38 for attack i get to altitude and dive bomb on the target? Thanks

P-38L is the one with the dive flaps.  In real life, both the late model P-38Js (-25-LO series) and the P-38L had dive flaps.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Which P-38?
Post by: Seanaldinho on April 08, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Ok thanks alot everyone  :aok
Still getting used to the differences and feeling them out  :salute