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Title: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: rayace1 on April 19, 2011, 11:30:41 PM
The Battle of Midway could be a great scenario. Here's a rough plan of aircraft.

For the allies there could be the SBD-5 "Dauntless," TBM-3 "Avenger"(Devestator sub), and F4F "Wildcat".
Objective: Destroy all 5 of the Japanese CVs and fend off Japanese attacks
Restrictions:Wildcats can't carry bombs, only drop tanks, and the TBM can't carry rockets or bombs.

For axis they would have the D3A "Vals," B5N2 "Kate," and the A6M2 "Zero"
Objective: Destroy all 3 of the American's CVs, attack Midway's airfield, and fend off American attacks
Restrictions:Zero's can't carry bombs, only drop tanks.

Gun Battries can be manned by both sides.

Allies: 40% of players   Axis: 60% of players

HOPE YOU CONSIDER THIS AS A FUTURE SCENARIO                            

SEE YOU IN THE SKIES :salute
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Pigslilspaz on April 20, 2011, 01:22:12 AM
First thing, the real battle was only 4 days long. that means that it would most likely be only 4 frames long.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Fencer51 on April 20, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
Two frames, its been designed and setting on my hard drive since 2008 when the Midway terrain was found to not be playable.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: K-KEN on April 20, 2011, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: Fencer51 on April 20, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
Two frames, its been designed and setting on my hard drive since 2008 when the Midway terrain was found to not be playable.

Have you backed it up lately??   :O  Might see a need...would be cool.  A day during WWII may last 4 frames....if written with that intent! 
I trust Fencer to give us something wonderful. 

So how's the terrain coming?   :neener: :bolt:    :D
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: rayace1 on April 20, 2011, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: Fencer51 on April 20, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
Two frames, its been designed and setting on my hard drive since 2008 when the Midway terrain was found to not be playable.
fix the terrain up, and we could have a mini-scenario
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: ROC on April 20, 2011, 12:59:41 PM
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fix the terrain up, and we could have a mini-scenario

Thanks, we never thought of that  :D

It's in the pipeline along with others.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: 321BAR on April 21, 2011, 07:09:19 AM
Quote from: rayace1 on April 19, 2011, 11:30:41 PM
The Battle of Midway could be a great scenario. Here's a rough plan of aircraft.

For the allies there could be the SBD-5 "Dauntless," TBM-3 "Avenger"(Devestator sub), and F4F "Wildcat".
Objective: Destroy all 5 of the Japanese CVs and fend off Japanese attacks
Restrictions:Wildcats can't carry bombs, only drop tanks, and the TBM can't carry rockets or bombs.

For axis they would have the D3A "Vals," B5N2 "Kate," and the A6M2 "Zero"
Objective: Destroy all 3 of the American's CVs, attack Midway's airfield, and fend off American attacks
Restrictions:Zero's can't carry bombs, only drop tanks.

Gun Battries can be manned by both sides.

Allies: 40% of players   Axis: 60% of players

HOPE YOU CONSIDER THIS AS A FUTURE SCENARIO                            

SEE YOU IN THE SKIES :salute
when were drop tanks implemented into the USAAF and USN? :headscratch:
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Fencer51 on April 21, 2011, 07:28:48 AM
They didn't have them at Midway.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: 321BAR on April 21, 2011, 07:36:04 AM
Quote from: Fencer51 on April 21, 2011, 07:28:48 AM
They didn't have them at Midway.
i thought so <S>
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: rayace1 on April 21, 2011, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: Fencer51 on April 21, 2011, 07:28:48 AM
They didn't have them at Midway.
oh, so no drop tanks then. I didn't know that they didn't use drop tanks
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: mthrockmor on May 05, 2011, 01:10:02 PM
If I understand K-Ken correctly, I'm in for a 2+ frame event all held on one day. It would be easier to free up one 6-8hr block on one Saturday as opposed to several. I did Battle Over Germany though wife flack was considerable.

Boo
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: K-KEN on May 05, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
Boo, I was saying the event could be 4 frames...(one per week) even if the actual time frame were a single days battle during WWII. Sorry if you took it any other way. It would certainly need some imagination to get 4 full frames.

Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: thomace on May 05, 2011, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Fencer51 on April 20, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
Two frames, its been designed and setting on my hard drive since 2008 when the Midway terrain was found to not be playable.
---terrain not playable...seems like it would be open ocean...unless you modeled the island too...if you did that...that would be a great scenerio for sure...
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: ROC on May 05, 2011, 11:13:14 PM
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unless you modeled the island too
Yes, it has Midway Island :)

It's also such a concentrated battle that it is a 2 frame, then side switch event.  Very hard to stretch that battle out 4 frames, so 4 Frames total, both teams playing both sides.  Really does come down to the team that way, not some perceived imbalance of plane-set.

Much like a Coral Sea or Pearl Harbor event.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Babalonian on May 06, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
Quote from: rayace1 on April 20, 2011, 10:18:09 AM
fix the terrain up, and we could have a mini-scenario

Map making forum is right over there, whenever you're up to and available to dive right in, I'm sure the most recent version of the map available will be provided to you upon request for you to start working on.   :ahand

Quote from: rayace1 on April 21, 2011, 09:45:44 AM
oh, so no drop tanks then. I didn't know that they didn't use drop tanks

They did, just not at that point and time in the war, so we will not be using them as well.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Pigslilspaz on May 11, 2011, 01:41:10 AM
Can't we have for 4 frames, 2 different time periods during two of the days of the battle? Would make thing's cool by adjusting the arena time to match it as well.

Like 2 for june 5 and june 6th
Title: Re:
Post by: 1Nicolas on July 28, 2011, 08:02:16 PM
Um how about F2A/B-239? It
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: K-KEN on July 29, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Pigslilspaz on May 11, 2011, 01:41:10 AM
Can't we have for 4 frames, 2 different time periods during two of the days of the battle? Would make thing's cool by adjusting the arena time to match it as well.

Like 2 for june 5 and june 6th

It could be like Coral Sea, Allied first 2 frames......switch sides, Axis last two frames.  The design team has indicated 2 issues......

Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Fencer51 on July 29, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
When it's ran it will be in one of two options.

As part of a multi-battle campaign or as a sideswitch event.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Wildcat1 on July 29, 2011, 11:47:31 PM
I like the campaign idea.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: shotgunneeley on August 13, 2011, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: rayace1 on April 19, 2011, 11:30:41 PM
The Battle of Midway could be a great scenario. Here's a rough plan of aircraft.

For the allies there could be the SBD-5 "Dauntless," TBM-3 "Avenger"(Devestator sub), and F4F "Wildcat".
Objective: Destroy all 5 of the Japanese CVs and fend off Japanese attacks
Restrictions:Wildcats can't carry bombs, only drop tanks, and the TBM can't carry rockets or bombs.

For axis they would have the D3A "Vals," B5N2 "Kate," and the A6M2 "Zero"
Objective: Destroy all 3 of the American's CVs, attack Midway's airfield, and fend off American attacks
Restrictions:Zero's can't carry bombs, only drop tanks.

Gun Battries can be manned by both sides.

Allies: 40% of players   Axis: 60% of players

HOPE YOU CONSIDER THIS AS A FUTURE SCENARIO                            

SEE YOU IN THE SKIES :salute

The Japanese only had 4 carriers.

Would this scenario only focus on the carrier battle, or will midway island be allowed to launch aircraft? If so, other types of planes like the army's b-26 and b-17 bombers; the marine corps' SBD Dauntless, F4F wildcat and f2a-3 buffalo; and the Navy's tbf avenger could all be used as well. I know the b-17's were "E" models, so that would be a non-game plane as well as the buffaloes.
Title: Re: SCENARIO: BATTLE OF MIDWAY
Post by: Fencer51 on August 13, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
Actualy they had 5.  The Hoshu was escorting the main body force consisting of the Battleship Yamato and two others.