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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Wagger on April 30, 2011, 05:42:49 PM
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I heard the Germans had a bomber named the HE-111 and the Do-17.
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Your right, they did. :)
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They used them to bomb Pearl Harbor.
wrongway
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They used them to bomb Pearl Harbor.
wrongway
Yeah they came in the third wave of the attack.
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didnt the swiss use them to help protect pearl harbor also?
semp
homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
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homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
US also has ships in Pearl Harbor :D
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didnt the swiss use them to help protect pearl harbor also?
semp
homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
Russians! And the Polish!
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Due to lack of cash I haven't been playing :-( but I have been watching BoB every weekend for the last FEW months. And was going to say the same thing... the 111 needs to come soon :pray. I've always been for more early war aircraft. +1 :aok
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Due to lack of cash I haven't been playing :-( but I have been watching BoB every weekend for the last FEW months. And was going to say the same thing... the 111 needs to come soon :pray. I've always been for more early war aircraft. +1 :aok
I whole heartily agree. The He-111 and the Do-17 deserve their spots in AH. :aok
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Not having He-111 is like not having the P-47.
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ya and they also had one called the HE177 and it PWNZZZZZZZZ both
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ya and they also had one called the HE177 and it PWNZZZZZZZZ both
Why do you want it so much?
I think 90% of your posts were about the He-177. ;)
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Why do you want it so much?
I think 90% of your posts were about the He-177. ;)
Who knows. But I'd bet the He-111 or the Do-17 will be added before the He-177. :D
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Why do you want it so much?
I think 90% of your posts were about the He-177. ;)
well one because we need a german bomber than would be used in the MA, plus i have some type of love for it. most likey because of the HE177 model i built ;) :banana:
Who knows. But I'd bet the He-111 or the Do-17 will be added before the He-177. :D
:cry :cry :cry :(
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homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
I remember reading that Russian merchant ships used to dock in Honolulu.
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I remember reading that Russian merchant ships used to dock in Honolulu.
dang it cant find the reference anymore. cant remember if it was one of the low countries or norway. they had a battle ship at pearl harbor by coincidence, and they just started blasting away at the japanese planes. they were one of the first ships to return fire.
semp
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I heard the Germans had a bomber named the HE-111 and the Do-17.
Its a lie created by propaganda
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dang it cant find the reference anymore. cant remember if it was one of the low countries or norway. they had a battle ship at pearl harbor by coincidence, and they just started blasting away at the japanese planes. they were one of the first ships to return fire.
semp
Google it. :banana:
SS Jagersfontein, a Dutch Mechant Ship in Honolulu Harbor allegedly opened fire on the Japanese Aircraft.
It would be like a goon charging a hoard.
Hearsay: Her captain, however, has reported that her only gun was dismantled for servicing at the time. Seems they felt it was a good time to do this as they were entering a secure harbor.
wrongway
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I say have your german bombers but only after we get a unique plane that isn't in the game.... Say the PBY :noid
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Short Stirling :noid
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I say have your german bombers but only after we get a unique plane that isn't in the game.... Say the Spit12 :noid
Fixed
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ya and they also had one called the HE177 and it PWNZZZZZZZZ both
Take my chances in a HE-111 than the HE-177 in a real life situation.
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I say have your dweeb spitz but only after we get a unique plane that isn't in the game.... Say the HE177 :noid
Fixed
no now really fixed
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But it looks like the 234, why add the 177?
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homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
The closest foreign flagged ship in the vicinity of Oahu on 12/7/1941 was the Dutch flagged merchantman, SS Jagersfontein. SS Jagersfontein was not at Pearl though, it was docked at Honolulu Harbor.
ack-ack
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no now really fixed
Nah, now your broke it. :bolt:
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Nah, now your broke it. :bolt:
agreed.
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Nah, now your broke it. :bolt:
Yep.
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WOW!, now you made it good. :bolt:
MORE FIXES
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MORE FIXES
this is getting annoying
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this is getting annoying
Kid needs to figure out Reddit from the AH BBS.
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Why do you want it so much?
I think 90% of your posts were about the He-177. ;)
Who's "you"? I'd rather see the Do-217. Greif was a POS, born of confused design specs and grounded in it's initial versions.
Now let's get back to that ace-pageantry at Westminster Abbey...
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The closest foreign flagged ship in the vicinity of Oahu on 12/7/1941 was the Dutch flagged merchantman, SS Jagersfontein. SS Jagersfontein was not at Pearl though, it was docked at Honolulu Harbor.
ack-ack
I was kind of wondering why a foreign flagged merchant ship would be docked at a naval base :D
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PBY-5A :noid you can have the HE-111 as long as the PBY is here at the same time :aok
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We'll never get em. Just stop asking. I have been asking for the He 111 since 2004. What do we get instead? Every other Allied bomber (and Betty) in existence.
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We dont have em in the game because HTC doesnt have any reliable flight information on them,well I can tell you they took off from somewhere flew over the English Channel and dropped bombs on my dad and grandma and then nearly all of them flew back to wherever they came from,my gran would not make up this sort of stuff believe me. :bhead
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I know that a lot of work is put into the game and aircraft we fly but after seeing some of the manoeuvre's pulled off in the arenas during game play I really wonder how much accuracy is compromised for game play. If I am wrong then let me know. I would be happy to see almost any Soviet, German, or Italian bombers added. Oh and why am I not surprised that much of replays to this thread have nothing to do with a semi intelligent discussion of the subject.
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I know that a lot of work is put into the game and aircraft we fly but after seeing some of the manoeuvre's pulled off in the arenas during game play I really wonder how much accuracy is compromised for game play. If I am wrong then let me know. I would be happy to see almost any Soviet, German, or Italian bombers added. Oh and why am I not surprised that much of replays to this thread have nothing to do with a semi intelligent discussion of the subject.
bump?
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The axis have no heavy bomber, the allies have many.
That said, only historic scenarios will require "bomber balance" since true axis vs allies action is unbelievably rare here.
Is the "two week war" with a rolling planeset that much of a failure here?
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In historical settings is exactly where the Axis most certainly do not need a heavy bomber. Why? Because the Axis effectively never fielded a heavy bomber.
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if it aint a bomber or an idea bout strategic bombing i dont want it. +1 to the he111
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The axis have no heavy bomber, the allies have many.
Have you thought of why there isn't an Axis heavy bomber in the game? Could it be because the Axis really didn't field a heavy bomber?
ack-ack
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They most certainly don't need a heavy bomber that might very well be better than any of the Allied heavy bombers in AH. That isn't balance and it most certainly bears no resemblance to history where the Allies fielded literally tens of thousands of reliable, workhorse heavy bombers and the Axis fielded hundreds of unreliable semi-heavy bombers in dribs and drabs along with a few tens of a decent Italian heavy bomber.
And oh yeah, just over one hundred of a patrol flying boat that could be used, more or less, as a heavy bomber.
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The axis have no heavy bomber, the allies have many.
if you're talking germany, hitler did not believe there was a need for high altitude long range heavy bombers...he believed in the blitzkrieg offensive which focused on ground units with the luftwaffe providing nothing more than air cover and precision bombing...nothing like the roles of the b-17, b-24, lancaster and b-29.
just a guess but, do-17z, do-217, he-111 and ju-88 would be the most historically accurate lineup of german bombers.
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if you're talking germany, hitler did not believe there was a need for high altitude long range heavy bombers...he believed in the blitzkrieg offensive which focused on ground units with the luftwaffe providing nothing more than air cover and precision bombing...nothing like the roles of the b-17, b-24, lancaster and b-29.
just a guess but, do-17z, do-217, he-111 and ju-88 would be the most historically accurate lineup of german bombers.
Toss the Ju188 in there as well.
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he 111 better than do 17
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Now I know how the threads wonder. It had nothing to do with German heavy bombers. It is about HE-111, Do-17 and let me add D0-217 and Ju-188
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It should be about the PBY-5A :aok
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It should be about the PBY-5A :aok
only if it was german, russian or japanese...
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:old: Curse you again Gyrene! :lol fine I say
+1 for He-111 but if I can get my PBY around same time! :neener:
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We definately need the Do-17. It was the most significant bomber of WWII. It not only fought in the BoB it also bombed Pearl Harbor. :bolt:
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Well not to defy the fact that the Do-17 bomber Pearl but the. b-17 was the most important bomber. And the PBY was most important Patrol Bomber of the war so we should get that next. :banana:
Hell ya +1 PBY! :noid
(Could use the He-111 to)
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"Most important bomber" of WWII can be argued pretty effectively for the B-24, B-29 and Lancaster as well, DemonFox. The B-17 does not have an automatic win on that category.
Yes, we have all of those in AH as well.
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Fairly sure that if you as any aircraft historians they will say the B-17 is more important then any of those bomber. I respect you and what you say but I have to say that the B-17 is most important.
But that's beyond any point that I really care about because all I want is the PBY-5A :bhead
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Fairly sure that if you as any aircraft historians they will say the B-17 is more important then any of those bomber. I respect you and what you say but I have to say that the B-17 is most important.
But that's beyond any point that I really care about because all I want is the PBY-5A :bhead
as much as i love the B17 the B29 was more important, now that 24 is ok but not BEST
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I have to say that the B-17 is most important american bomber.
Fixed. It's close-minded to think the B-17 is the most important bomber of the war, when Halifaxes and Wellingtons made up the bulk of the allied bomber fleet for half the war. They still had Wellingtons flying in 1000-plane missions in 1944, as commented by at least 1 Luftwaffe pilot making note "many were the older types, Wellingtons and so forth" [paraphrase]
Also, the G4M betty may well be the most important, with its roles all over the CBI, the PTO, and anywhere the Japanese operated. Or you might say the Lancaster was the shining light for the RAF Bomber command, and was the iconic and quintessential bomber of the war. Or you might say the Ju-88 served in far greater capacity and in a far wider variety of roles and in greater levels of evolution than the B-17 ever did.
So please keep in mind the U.S.A. wasn't the only country in the war, and we only joined it halfway through.
P.S. Foget the blasted PBY. It's a POS with fabric covered wings and no redeeming values. It has no place in AH and no role in AH's gameplay.
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P.S. Foget the blasted PBY. It's a POS with fabric covered wings and no redeeming values. It has no place in AH and no role in AH's gameplay.
lmao...i think demon fox is related to 321bar somehow, both of them are like stray dogs on a bone no matter what people say about the pby, he is dead set on it's value and useability... :uhoh :rolleyes: :huh :headscratch:
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lmao...i think demon fox is related to 321bar somehow, both of them are like stray dogs on a bone no matter what people say about the pby, he is dead set on it's value and useability... :uhoh :rolleyes: :huh :headscratch:
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Fixed. It's close-minded to think the B-17 is the most important bomber of the war, when Halifaxes and Wellingtons made up the bulk of the allied bomber fleet for half the war.
these two should be definantly added
Halifax Bomber: numbers built 6175 aircraft from 1940 to 1945 and served with 7 airforces in the war. and they werent just bombers they were also transports for supplies, and agents and glider tugs.
Wellington Bomber: produced 1936–1945, Number built 11,464 served with 3 airforces and the fleet air arm
these two should be brought in.
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The thing that stands against the Halifax is the fact that in performance and capability the Lancaster is so extremely similar that the work needed to add a four engine bomber seems excessive. The Lancaster -> Halifax substitution is about as close as can be had in WWII.
I do think we need a Wellington though, my preference being the Mk III.
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:cry All I want is the blasted PBY! :cry
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Mr all I want is my PBY. Start you own damn thread then.
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lmao...i think demon fox is related to 321bar somehow, both of them are like stray dogs on a bone no matter what people say about the pby, he is dead set on it's value and useability... :uhoh :rolleyes: :huh :headscratch:
problem is is that i have not met one person dead set against the M-18 unless they wanna troll me :aok :neener:
and its not the value or useability. its my favorite WWII vehicle and i'd love to kick butt in it :aok
and... no... he isn't related to me :bolt:
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Ok Wagger if you noticed the PBY-5A thread is mine :lol :lol I've got my thread. And I respect BAR and agree with him and his M-18 but I am alittle more... Um forceful? With my ideas and if someone doesn't like my corny do as many people have done on another thread. Tell me off and I won't bother your thread again. :rock
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Tell me off and I won't bother your thread again.
We shouldn't have to. After the first time somebody tells you off, you should get the hint for all future instances where you do that again and again.
Just sayin'....
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I'm sorry Krusty. I'm just a hard learner. :aok How else would I be able to put up with the awsomness of the PBY :rolleyes:
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didnt the swiss use them to help protect pearl harbor also?
semp
homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
I don't think the swiss used/defended Pearl Harbor. :headscratch:
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I can't deny the PBY-5A, but currently there is no role for it in Aces High. When HiTech gets around to adding submarines, then the PBY will have a solid reason to be added (if only for the scenario factor). The British used her for hunting subs, along with the Beaufighter and Sunderland, to name a few.
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I heard the Germans had a bomber named the HE-111 and the Do-17.
Also, they had the He177 long-range bomber. Also, we need more German bombers.
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didnt the swiss use them to help protect pearl harbor also?
semp
homework for you guys. which other countries also had ships at pearl harbor at the time of the japanese attack?
The Japanese had midget submarines in the harbor itself, and the United States fired the first shot engaging it.
-Penguin
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They caught one before it arrived by dropping depth charges.
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I don't think the swiss used/defended Pearl Harbor. :headscratch:
the mention of Swiss was a question, not a statement. but It was a typo I was actually thinking of Belgium, but for some reason I typed Switzerland which was a neutral country. and two guys already answered with the correct country.
semp
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I can't deny the PBY-5A, but currently there is no role for it in Aces High. When HiTech gets around to adding submarines, then the PBY will have a solid reason to be added (if only for the scenario factor). The British used her for hunting subs, along with the Beaufighter and Sunderland, to name a few.
And how about some supply convoys..?