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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: flakmgc on May 03, 2011, 03:05:18 PM
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Hello,
I have been asking around my squad and the late war room and have been
getting nothing but positive feedback...
For a possible, upcoming patch make it possible for friendly
aircraft/vehicles to pick up other pilots/drivers who have ditched. This
would be able to let the "ditchee" get back to base and cash in points as
well as mimmick real actions that were taken in the war. Maybe for an additional bonus, count the extra body, in a plane, for
instance to be counted as an additional kill for whoever is lucky enough to
be in the area and take the shot.
Thank you for your time.
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V/r HOWLR
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uh...
oh, nevermind.
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not sure I get the drag :O
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Picking up hitch hikers?
I can hear the discussion in the O'Club now....
"Where's HOWLR?"
"Didn't you hear?"
"No, what happened?"
"Oh gosh, he left out of here yesterday in his M3, and never came back. They went looking for him this morning and found his M3 abandoned at a truck stop with him bound, gagged, and ...um... violated, stuffed in the tool box in the back." :O
I know enough of my fellow knits..... I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting many of them in my M3 or Jeep with me! :rofl
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I know enough of my fellow knits..... I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting many of them in my M3 or Jeep with me! :rofl
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You must be thinking of Notch. ;) :bolt:
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sure....full stop landing within a certain distance for a certain amount of time before taking back off.
I guess the hotpad functionality could be modified and attached to a person chuted out on foot since it already has much of what is needed to achieve this.
Maybe the "attach as gunner or observer" dialog could also be used to implement this.
I guess they guy who bailed could get credit for successful bail like you do when you walk back to a the proper place but I'm not sure how the pilot who picks up someone would receive score.
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Picking up hitch hikers?
I can hear the discussion in the O'Club now....
"Where's HOWLR?"
"Didn't you hear?"
"No, what happened?"
"Oh gosh, he left out of here yesterday in his M3, and never came back. They went looking for him this morning and found his M3 abandoned at a truck stop with him bound, gagged, and ...um... violated, stuffed in the tool box in the back." :O
I know enough of my fellow knits..... I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting many of them in my M3 or Jeep with me! :rofl
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:rofl :rofl
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I fly the stuka more often than not and would enjoy the opportunity to land and pick up downed countrymen after using up my ord. After reading Rudel's book it sure seems that the ju87 was more than capable of landing in a farm field, loading up an additional 2 people and returning to base. So a big +1 from me. You also have to wonder how many times during the war a downed pilot was picked up by a friendly vehicle and provided transportation back to a base or forward command center, either after he walked out of enemy territory or he bailed over friendly territory.
In game the pilot/gv driver who stopped would have to accept a join request from the downed pilot, and perhaps on planes like the 110 or stuka the rear gunner's field of fire would be reduced after picking up an extra person to help simulate the newly cramped conditions in the rear cockpit. The downed pilot would get a "bailed" landing rather than a captured or ditched, and this would be awarded when the pilot who picked them up ended their sortie or if the rescue pilot is rearming then the downed/picked up pilot could then end sortie for the bailed landing.
:salute HOWLR, good to see a squaddie on the boards.
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I fly the stuka more often than not and would enjoy the opportunity to land and pick up downed countrymen after using up my ord.
so you seriously want everyone to believe you would be willing to fly around "rescuing" people who got shot down and bailed without ending sortie...and you really think there is anyone who doesn't consider pop-tarts and twinkies an entree, that is willing to stand around long enough to be "rescued", when he could end sortie and get back into the fight in seconds...
get more sleep...the brain functions better with adequate rest.
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He's not saying he going to fly over and save people. He is saying that if he's flyin over a pilot he will stop by and pick you up and bring you back to base to help your score. And yes I believe people who care about score will wait to be picked up.
<S> I like the idea and say +1 (All the more reason for the PBY!)
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I got 8.5 hours of rest last night, thanks for your concern. I know that even if we had this feature in game right now most people wouldn't take the time to rescue a downed pilot or wait for a rescue plane to show up; yes I said MOST people, not all. As I said before I would enjoy the opportunity to land and pick up a downed pilot AFTER using up my ord when flying the stuka. With only pea shooters in the wings and tail, the stuka really has no reason to hang around after using its bombs. If a fellow countryman or especially a squad member was shot down near by, yes I would stop and try to pick them up while I was RTB. Believe me or don't, that is up to you. There was no call for a snide remark like yours other than to inflate your ego and post count.
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i don't have to inflate my ego tmetal...it's as big as most everyone elses already. :lol
i know you don't care much about score as many of us don't...but you know as well as i do, or at least you should, that the only people who would really take any interest in "rescue" are the mini-generals who spam country channel looking for gunners or wanting to be a gunner...and seriously think about the amount of squeaking there would be with all the dipsticks who managed to get shot down getting pissy because no one really wants to take the time to go "rescue them" 3 or 4 grid squares away... if .ef or "end sortie" did not exist, then maybe it would be useful, the squeakers would have something else to do...but right now tank retrievers would be more useful.
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The search function must still be disabled...
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After reading Rudel's book it sure seems that the ju87 was more than capable of landing in a farm field, loading up an additional 2 people and returning to base.
Ummm...you apparently didn't finish the entire section that described the incident.
After he picked up the two downed Stuka pilots, Rudel's Ju 87 was not able to take off and he along with his gunner and the two downed Stuka crew had to make their escape on foot of which only Rudel made it back to friendly lines.
ack-ack
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Those 2 guys he tried to pick up musta been really heavy. No wonder they didn't make it back to friendly lines, even on foot.
Dumb fat Germans. :rolleyes:
:rofl
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Those 2 guys he tried to pick up musta been really heavy. No wonder they didn't make it back to friendly lines, even on foot.
Dumb fat Germans. :rolleyes:
:rofl
The extra weight plus the soft ground in the farm field prevented the Stuka from being able to roll for take off.
ack-ack
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I read it all ack-ack, and I do recall the specific part you are talking about. One of his best liked rear gunners drowned in a river they tried to swim across. However, if I recall correctly (been awhile since I read the book) there were other occasions he mentions where he landed to pick up downed pilots or he detailed one of his other pilots to land and pick them up, he just went into less detail because those instances were less eventful. (for such a remarkable pilot, his book is very thin on descriptive details) So yes, you are right that on that occasion he landed and got stuck in the soft mud and was unable to even start rolling again (even after taking off the dust guards for the wheels), but that one failure doesn't mean it was never done successfully.
gyrene - yup there is already a good deal of squeaking, whining, and armchair generaling (btw, that last phrase felt as stupid to type as it is to read, sorry about that) and of course a rescue feature would create more but hell, there are people out there whining right now about the latest feature/update (GV changes) and there was plenty of whining about the ones before that. Unfortunately it will always be a part of the game. But you also have to look at the up side to it. wouldn't a lot people at least like to have the opportunity to be rescued rather than captured? (I know there have been a few times that I would have liked to call up a squad member on vox for a ride back to base) And I am sure there would be players/squads that would make a name for themselves as good rescue pilots "sweet! pilot xyz is on our country tonight! he almost always responds to rescue requests." much like there are people out there who see a 262 cutting through a furball and downing planes on almost every pass and think "*%#&, I bet that is Grizz in the 262 coming at me" or the respect people show the 91st HBG when they put together one of their large missions, respect from both sides of the mission. There is already a number of people (yes me included) who will drive/fly GV supplies out to a downed vehicle to "rescue" that driver from a ditch landing or a death landing. The way I see it, this wouldn't be all that much different in principle.
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I read it all ack-ack, and I do recall the specific part you are talking about. One of his best liked rear gunners drowned in a river they tried to swim across. However, if I recall correctly (been awhile since I read the book) there were other occasions he mentions where he landed to pick up downed pilots or he detailed one of his other pilots to land and pick them up, he just went into less detail because those instances were less eventful. (for such a remarkable pilot, his book is very thin on descriptive details) So yes, you are right that on that occasion he landed and got stuck in the soft mud and was unable to even start rolling again (even after taking off the dust guards for the wheels), but that one failure doesn't mean it was never done successfully.
gyrene - yup there is already a good deal of squeaking, whining, and armchair generaling (btw, that last phrase felt as stupid to type as it is to read, sorry about that) and of course a rescue feature would create more but hell, there are people out there whining right now about the latest feature/update (GV changes) and there was plenty of whining about the ones before that. Unfortunately it will always be a part of the game. But you also have to look at the up side to it. wouldn't a lot people at least like to have the opportunity to be rescued rather than captured? (I know there have been a few times that I would have liked to call up a squad member on vox for a ride back to base) And I am sure there would be players/squads that would make a name for themselves as good rescue pilots "sweet! pilot xyz is on our country tonight! he almost always responds to rescue requests." much like there are people out there who see a 262 cutting through a furball and downing planes on almost every pass and think "*%#&, I bet that is Grizz in the 262 coming at me" or the respect people show the 91st HBG when they put together one of their large missions, respect from both sides of the mission. There is already a number of people (yes me included) who will drive/fly GV supplies out to a downed vehicle to "rescue" that driver from a ditch landing or a death landing. The way I see it, this wouldn't be all that much different in principle.
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:O ok ink was bored :lol :rofl :lol
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Hello,
I have been asking around my squad and the late war room and have been
getting nothing but positive feedback...
For a possible, upcoming patch make it possible for friendly
aircraft/vehicles to pick up other pilots/drivers who have ditched. This
would be able to let the "ditchee" get back to base and cash in points as
well as mimmick real actions that were taken in the war. Maybe for an additional bonus, count the extra body, in a plane, for
instance to be counted as an additional kill for whoever is lucky enough to
be in the area and take the shot.
Thank you for your time.
V/r HOWLR
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Reaper90...Looks like you should consider hanging out with another country if you don't trust them in your plane. Gyrene81, you're an idiot...flat out. No I am not recommending you go look solely for downed pilots, unless your mental capacity gets maxed out from that SO-STRENUOUS TASK. On the other hand, there were little light civil a/c out there that were...1.scouts, 2."a hey! I'm just flyin' by so get the hell in and dodge the bullets" plane. It's about the same as a Skytrain. No guns, just a school bus...If you made it home, lucky you. Let alone, with extra boots. The scoring thing? Really, let HiTech's guys deal with that when and IF that time comes. DemonFox and Tmetal thank you for your positive imput...Oh, if you see me walking as you dip your wing, I'll be doing this to get your attention... :banana:
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My dad's buddy pulled it off in a skyraider.
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The extra weight plus the soft ground in the farm field prevented the Stuka from being able to roll for take off.
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I'd imagine it was 100% soft ground and 0% extra weight. If a Ju-87 can take off from a prepared surface with 1800+ kg of ordinance, an extra 300-350 pounds of stranded kraut is not gonna slow them down. If that bird couln't get airborne with all three or four of them in there, it wasn't getting airborne with any of them in there.
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Reaper90...Looks like you should consider hanging out with another country if you don't trust them in your plane.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I'd only likely feel safer with another country because I know I am not, and have not decended from, sheep.
I was just being a smart-azz, too, I am 100% FOR your wish.
If the search was functioning (and being used properly) you'd see I myself have asked for this same thing in the past.
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Reaper90...Looks like you should consider hanging out with another country if you don't trust them in your plane. Gyrene81, you're an idiot...flat out. No I am not recommending you go look solely for downed pilots, unless your mental capacity gets maxed out from that SO-STRENUOUS TASK. On the other hand, there were little light civil a/c out there that were...1.scouts, 2."a hey! I'm just flyin' by so get the hell in and dodge the bullets" plane. It's about the same as a Skytrain. No guns, just a school bus...If you made it home, lucky you. Let alone, with extra boots. The scoring thing? Really, let HiTech's guys deal with that when and IF that time comes. DemonFox and Tmetal thank you for your positive imput...Oh, if you see me walking as you dip your wing, I'll be doing this to get your attention... :banana:
lmao, that's rich...i like to use the time i have available in ah to do something besides navigate my cartoon pilot around in the bushes waiting on someone to come by in a plane capable of carrying more than 1 person, land and pick my toon pilot up, then fly for god knows how long just to get back to a friendly base for no real purpose other than to say something like "that was cool"...and i'm an idiot :rofl :rofl
obviously the milliseconds it takes to end sortie and end up back in the tower escapes some people...try again...and really think about it this time. the only way your "brilliant" idea would work would be to have some incentive for the person taking the risk to "rescue" someone...maybe split rescued person's perk points. in gv battles, the only people who would be interested in being "rescued" would be those whose vehicles were disabled and they had a few kills to land and no supplies were available...even then, if no one else was around, it's a waiting game and you can count the number of people with that much patience on your little toes.
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lmao, that's rich...i like to use the time i have available in ah to do something besides navigate my cartoon pilot around in the bushes waiting on someone to come by in a plane capable of carrying more than 1 person, land and pick my toon pilot up, then fly for god knows how long just to get back to a friendly base for no real purpose other than to say something like "that was cool"...and i'm an idiot :rofl :rofl
obviously the milliseconds it takes to end sortie and end up back in the tower escapes some people...try again...and really think about it this time. the only way your "brilliant" idea would work would be to have some incentive for the person taking the risk to "rescue" someone...maybe split rescued person's perk points. in gv battles, the only people who would be interested in being "rescued" would be those whose vehicles were disabled and they had a few kills to land and no supplies were available...even then, if no one else was around, it's a waiting game and you can count the number of people with that much patience on your little toes.
The advantage to the "rescue" concept in-game would be that for the fighter guys it would create a whole new opportunity to shoot things down. The things that immediately comes to mind are the huge engagements during the Vietnam war that began as recue missions to try and collect downed airmen behind enemy lines. Yes, I watched the movie "Bat 21" a few times. :)
So you don't care about being captured and will just ".ef" every time. There are plenty who wouldn't. Give people the opportunity to go get them. If you're the guy who shot down the guy who now needs to be rescued after bailing, you still get the kill message "You shot down XXXXX" - if he's a score tard and you recognize his name, you can be sure that he doesn't want to hurt that k/d and score, and a rescue will be on its way very soon.... now you have the chance to ambush and kill his squaddies and foil their rescue! That pilot running around on the ground just became your BAIT!!
As far as making it worthwhile for the rescuer, award s few perk points, just as you would get for resupplying a field or dropping a unmanned ground target.
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Picking up hitch hikers?
I can hear the discussion in the O'Club now....
"Where's HOWLR?"
"Didn't you hear?"
"No, what happened?"
"Oh gosh, he left out of here yesterday in his M3, and never came back. They went looking for him this morning and found his M3 abandoned at a truck stop with him bound, gagged, and ...um... violated, stuffed in the tool box in the back." :O
I know enough of my fellow knits..... I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting many of them in my M3 or Jeep with me! :rofl
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You wouldn't wanna ride in my 251?
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Here's the wikipedia entry with the skyraider rescue story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_F._Fisher
Here's the plane but I'm pretty sure it was crashed on a different mission.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Crashed_Douglas_A-1.jpg)
This plane was restored and is in the dayton museum.
(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/071108-F-1234S-005.jpg)
Interestingly enough, both of the guys who did this previously in a p38 were also involved in the skyraider rescue.
http://www.flightjournal.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=F999E8C39FCE47DEB4CDBABBFBF37179&nm=The+Magazine&type=PubPagi&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle+Title&mid=13B2F0D0AFA04476A2ACC02ED28A405F&tier=4&id=3F13A9D82704401F820A440B3DE5D0C5
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Ok, cool. So this happened on rare occasions. Why should HTC waste resources to add this to the game when they won't add rare airplanes that didn't see combat in squadron strength? I just don't see the value added. Again, just because it happened in the real life-or-death war doesn't mean it makes sense in a video game.
The arguement about it generating more fights is weak too. Would you circle around someone you just shot down in the hopes that some un-armed or lightly-armed airplane will be along shortly to pick him up? What's to keep him from towering out after running you low on fuel, or being the bait as 6 of his friends in perked planes come to gang you while you're circling him and burning fuel waiting for the impending "easy kill" on the rescue plane?
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Because most of what is needed already exists within the game.
The hardest part would be the scoring.
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Because most of what is needed already exists within the game.
The hardest part would be the scoring.
Actually, there would be lots of variables.
What if you couldn't fit two people in a plane? Spitfire, 109, Zero, no way.
In the Linked article above it states they couldn't manage to reproduce the feat in the same 38.
So, maybe yes in some planes and no in others?
You would certainly be helpless in a plane with one seat, two occupants. No hard maneuvering. No fighting.
Would flight parameters need to be remodeled due to restricted control movements? You couldn't reach the rudder pedals or you can't move your stick as far due to someone's thigh being in the way?
Would views need to be modified where you couldn't move your head so far because you are flying while sitting in someone's lap?
Ok, cool. So this happened on rare occasions.
I agree that it isn't needed bit it actually happened, or at least was attempted, more than you think.
Interesting thread here. (http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8509)
Also, This (http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/Pilots/343rd%20Pilots/Howes%20Bernard%20H%20Lt.htm) was a friend of my Dad's. I met him when I was Eight and had a book with P-51's in it. He said, "I used to fly those."
Otherwise, my Dad says, he never spoke of what he did in the war.
wrongway
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You wouldn't wanna ride in my 251?
With you? I've seen what you like to do with 'taters, sir..... um... no thanks! :O
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So, maybe yes in some planes and no in others?
Obviously NO in any single seater.
But things like A-20, 110, IL2, B-25, etc.
Why not?
Very very little would need to be done to add it, it's not like we're creating a new aircraft, only a new use for existing ones.
New aircraft could come later, but aren't required.
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Demanding full realism from a rescue functionality is as ridiculous as spits vs spits.
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I think it'd be fun flying around in a goon picking up down pilots. I practice landing in the grass with a C47 in the training arena.
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Demanding full realism from a rescue functionality is as ridiculous as spits vs spits.
I know, right? Stupid game. :huh
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-1 no landing kills
+1 save pilot who maybe wounded or keep him from becoming pow, but how would you reward that? :rolleyes:
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+1 save pilot who maybe wounded or keep him from becoming pow, but how would you reward that? :rolleyes:
Wouldn't HTC have to enable a "P.O.W" status to begin with? Geez, at least put the horse in front of the buggy.
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You all have some really good points. Except for icepac and imadot should keep in mind this would ONLY BE AN OPTION TO YOU. You do not have to sit and pout in the bushes if you do not want to. For those of us who would like to lend a helping hand for points and a quick kudos it no biggy....All in all really good feedback.
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WTF?
I guess you didn't read the entire thread.
I don't care whether it is implemented or not but I did offer that we already have much of the functionality required to pull this off.
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Has anyone thought about all the cries, and whines to "rescue me" we would be bombarded with on country channel? :aok
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Has anyone thought about all the cries, and whines to "rescue me" we would be bombarded with on country channel? :aok
some people haven't...and by all appearances, they would relish it more than "anyone need a gunner" or "i need a gunner, can someone be a gunner for me?".
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Here's the wikipedia entry with the skyraider rescue story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_F._Fisher
Here's the plane but I'm pretty sure it was crashed on a different mission.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Crashed_Douglas_A-1.jpg)
This plane was restored and is in the dayton museum.
(http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/071108-F-1234S-005.jpg)
Interestingly enough, both of the guys who did this previously in a p38 were also involved in the skyraider rescue.
http://www.flightjournal.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=F999E8C39FCE47DEB4CDBABBFBF37179&nm=The+Magazine&type=PubPagi&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle+Title&mid=13B2F0D0AFA04476A2ACC02ED28A405F&tier=4&id=3F13A9D82704401F820A440B3DE5D0C5
Wow, cool that your dad is friends with one of them, I remember reading about that story because it was related to some P-38 pilots that did the same thing with thier P-38s in WWII, both are great short-story reads.
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Dad's got some pretty cool stories himself concerning the skyraider.
(http://www.midwaysailor.com/midwaymemorabilia/andkillmigs-007b.jpg)
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Picking up hitch hikers?
I can hear the discussion in the O'Club now....
"Where's HOWLR?"
"Didn't you hear?"
"No, what happened?"
"Oh gosh, he left out of here yesterday in his M3, and never came back. They went looking for him this morning and found his M3 abandoned at a truck stop with him bound, gagged, and ...um... violated, stuffed in the tool box in the back." :O
I know enough of my fellow knits..... I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting many of them in my M3 or Jeep with me! :rofl
:old:
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Dad's got some pretty cool stories himself concerning the skyraider.
(http://www.midwaysailor.com/midwaymemorabilia/andkillmigs-007b.jpg)
That is one sexy bad-assed prop plane.
You see one of those dropping down on ya from the sky ... Just bend over and kiss your arse goodbye.
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That is one sexy bad-assed prop plane.
^THIS^
bad-assed in a NFL linebacker kind of way.... not particularly pretty or graceful, but AWESOME in a "I'm here to get toejam done, you get in my way what's left of ya is going home in a zip-lock baggie" kind of way!
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This would be able to let the "ditchee" get back to base and cash in points as
well as mimmick real actions that were taken in the war.
You want points for losing your plane and leaving it ditched in enemy territory.. :lol
Just how many points should you get to cash in for losing your plane?
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You want points for losing your plane and leaving it ditched in enemy territory.. :lol
Just how many points should you get to cash in for losing your plane?
Never been a request for points to be awarded to anyone other than the guy doing the rescuing.... not the rescuee.
The only thing the person being rescued gets is a "ditch" (or the equivalent to it, points wise, and no name in lights for any kills) once returned to the field, instead of a "captured" end to the sortie and the corresponding negative impact on k/d.
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add some new stats...amount of time getting rescued...number of times rescued...number of rescues landed...lusche could have a lot of pie chart fun with that
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Never been a request for points to be awarded to anyone other than the guy doing the rescuing.... not the rescuee.
You might want to read the original post again. The part where it says...
"This would be able to let the "ditchee" get back to base and cash in points."
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You might want to read the original post again. The part where it says...
"This would be able to let the "ditchee" get back to base and cash in points."
AHA! You got me there, I missed that part.
Well, I wouldn't and haven't asked for points to "cash in" when I've made this same request (rescues) in the threads concerning the PBY and using Jeeps to refuel aircraft.....
That being said, when you have kills and you get shot down and lose your plane, either ditched, captured, or killed, you are still awarded perks for those kills, are you not? Just not as many perks as you would have earned had you landed them safely.
Why would you not be entitled to the same perks after being rescued and returned as you would have gotten if you had just .ef and been captured?
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Why would you not be entitled to the same perks after being rescued and returned as you would have gotten if you had just .ef and been captured?
Dunno, but if they give people the option to be rescued they should give the opposite side the ability to capture downed pilots and make em talk. ;)
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Dunno, but if they give people the option to be rescued they should give the opposite side the ability to capture downed pilots and make em talk. ;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
YES! Or seize their perks and take them as my own! I would LOVE the be the guy who rides out with a Jeep and chases down the guy running on foot waiting to be rescued, and take him PRISONER!!!
Your perkies R all belong to ME!!!!
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Dunno, but if they give people the option to be rescued they should give the opposite side the ability to capture downed pilots and make em talk. ;)
You could walk to friendly territory and get a "ditch" instead. That way you would get 75% of your score for that sortie instead of 40%.
wrongway
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You could walk to friendly territory and get a "ditch" instead. That way you would get 75% of your score for that sortie instead of 40%.
wrongway
Yep.
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some people haven't...and by all appearances, they would relish it more than "anyone need a gunner" or "i need a gunner, can someone be a gunner for me?".
I ALWAYS pick-up a newbie who wants to "Join" in my bombers & learn. The only time I've regretted that was in a tank and the newb was in the turret & got me killed. Otherwise, why not? Remember when you were a newb...well, I wasn't a squeaker when I was a newb and listened to what I was told, mostly, unless it was Baron Von MuffDiver. :ahand
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Yup, country text channel would have many calls for rescue, so maybe introduce a new text/vox channel for rescue operations. People who are interested in rescuing downed pilots could have the channel tuned on their radio and downed pilots could use it to call for help. it would be country specific. I think this would help keep the rescue chatter on country channel to a minimum. Other than that possible solution, the next best thing that is already available is the .squelch command.
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I want a multiplier as I'd use a goon... it can carry 10 easily... right? And then I can drop them over a town and they can keystone kop it to the map room, shooting stuff with their pistols... maybe for a nominal perk charge to the picked upees to supply them with a carbine.... oh yeah, chutes are definately extra. :x
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extra charge for chutes? remind me not to climb into your plane! :lol