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Title: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Eric122 on May 07, 2011, 01:43:31 PM
 a Soviet dive bomber aircraft used during World War II. It was regarded as one of the best ground attack aircraft of the war. and it was extremely successful in the roles of heavy fighter, reconnaissance and night fighter. It was one of the most important aircraft of World War II, being in many respects similar to the British de Havilland Mosquito, though the Pe-2 was manufactured in greater numbers: 11,400. It was fast, maneuverable and durable. i dont know where you'd put this, f first flew in 1939 but served untill 1954. The Pe-2 quickly proved itself to be a highly capable aircraft, able to elude the Luftwaffe's interceptors and allowing their crews to develop great accuracy with their bombing.

The records of the 16th and 39th BAPs of the Western Front Air Force note that the Pe-2s crews had the greatest success in repelling the attacks of enemy fighters in June and July 1941. On 1st July, for example, six Pe-2s fended off attacks by four Messerschmitt Bf 109s, shooting down two of them. A week later a group of Pe-2s was attacked by four Bf 109 and again brought down two of the attackers. On both occasions the Petlyakovs suffered no losses. On southern front, a bombing mission against Ploesti, in Romania, of six Pe-2s, led by Capt. A. Tsurtsulin, was a great success: 552,150 lb of petroleum were burnt in the raid. The Romanian information agency claimed tha at least 100 Soviet planes had bombed Ploesti. A German pilot shot down by a Petlyakov over Bobruysk, Maj. A. Mudin of JG 51, affirmed that the Pe-2 was the best Soviet aircraft: "It is a fast aircraft, with good armament, and it is dangerous to enemy fighters."
Top Speed: 360 mph
Max Payload: 18,728
Service Ceiling: 28,870 ft
Crew: Three - pilot, gunner, bombardier
Length: 12.66 m (41 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 17.16 m (56 ft 3 in)
Height: 3.5 m (11 ft 6 in)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov M-105PF liquid-cooled V-12, 903 kW (1,210 hp) each
2 × 7.62 mm (0.3 in) fixed ShKAS machine guns in the nose, one replaced by a 12.7 mm (0.5 in) Berezin UB on later versions.
2 × rearward firing 7.62 mm (0.3 in) ShKAS.
From the middle of 1942 defensive armament included 1 Berezin UB machine gun in the upper bombardier's turret, 1 Berezin UB in gunner's ventral hatch and 1 ShKAS which could be fired by a gunner from port, starboard or upper mountings
Some planes were also equipped with DAG-10 launcher, firing AG-2 parachute timed grenades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe-2?vm=r (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pe-2?vm=r)
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/militaryaircraft/ig/Bombers-of-World-War-II/Petlyakov-Pe-2.htm?vm=r (http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/militaryaircraft/ig/Bombers-of-World-War-II/Petlyakov-Pe-2.htm?vm=r)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Pigslilspaz on May 07, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
Everyone loves an intelligent post, not so much a russian plane  :D. Still, it's needed. +1
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Reaper90 on May 07, 2011, 02:04:29 PM
YES!

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230725_2040980310222_1415742882_32400756_4172966_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: IrishOne on May 07, 2011, 02:04:47 PM
+1, we need alot more russian birds  :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Eric122 on May 07, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
+1, we need alot more russian birds  :aok
i know id also like fragmentation rounds for the t-34 (they really carried them) but that wont happen.
anyway i agree
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: perdue3 on May 07, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
+1


He 111
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Motherland on May 07, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
Петляков... what a difficult word to pronounce...
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 07, 2011, 05:32:54 PM
The Pe-2 would be a fine choice, but the Tu-2 would be even better.  The Tu-2 has level bombing capability while the Pe-2 would be like flying the early war version of the German 110 (C-4) with another 1k lbs worth of ordnance. 
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Debrody on May 07, 2011, 05:52:39 PM
Yes plz  one of the most needed aircrafts.
+1 for the russian 110
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Eric122 on May 07, 2011, 06:50:02 PM
The Pe-2 would be a fine choice, but the Tu-2 would be even better.  The Tu-2 has level bombing capability while the Pe-2 would be like flying the early war version of the German 110 (C-4) with another 1k lbs worth of ordnance. 
that is a good point
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: icepac on May 07, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
There's the additional PE3 nightfighter variant that flew during daylight.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: DemonFox on May 07, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
PBY-5A...  :noid
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: B-17 on May 07, 2011, 11:51:38 PM
There's the additional PE3 nightfighter variant that flew during daylight.

makes perfect sense. a nightfighter flying at noon.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on May 07, 2011, 11:57:04 PM
Yep bung it in.

Some nice nose art on some of them.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Pe-2trigesco.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: olds442 on May 08, 2011, 12:00:34 AM
HE177  :noid
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 08, 2011, 12:31:39 AM
The Pe-2 would be a fine choice, but the Tu-2 would be even better.  The Tu-2 has level bombing capability while the Pe-2 would be like flying the early war version of the German 110 (C-4) with another 1k lbs worth of ordnance. 

+1 for the Tu-2

(Korea)



wrongway
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Imowface on May 08, 2011, 03:12:30 AM
Петляков... what a difficult word to pronounce...
no way  ;)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Eric122 on May 08, 2011, 01:01:51 PM
then create a seperate topic for the tu-2. it does a slightly diffrent job. the pe-2 is more of a dive bomber. :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Debrody on May 08, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
There are many simmilarities between them. Imow, do you know anything about it, isnt the tu-2 based on the pe-2? If so, would be awsome to get both.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: EagleDNY on May 08, 2011, 01:29:34 PM
Early version Pe-2 would not get much use other than scenarios.  I'd +1 one of the later variants, or the Tu-2.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Imowface on May 08, 2011, 03:17:29 PM
There are many simmilarities between them. Imow, do you know anything about it, isnt the tu-2 based on the pe-2? If so, would be awsome to get both.
Pe-2 was more of an attack plane/heavy fighter type deal,  and the Tu-2 was more of a medium bomber but they are two diferent airframes, 1 used the M-82 engine (same as La's) and another used the klimov engine (in yak's)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: waystin2 on May 08, 2011, 06:03:32 PM
+1
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: SpencAce on May 08, 2011, 07:45:44 PM
that would be cool to have +1
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Karnak on May 08, 2011, 08:46:39 PM
Any and all of the Il-4, Pe-2 and Tu-2 would be welcome in AH in my opinion.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Wagger on May 08, 2011, 09:44:20 PM
I will give a big okay to adding some soviet bombers.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on May 09, 2011, 12:39:07 AM
+1

Tu-2

+1.5
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: alpini13 on May 09, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
i asked for this plane last year, im glad you all now agree with me,keep up the good work guys and let these 3 go,they are not the ones your looking for.  ok get the fastest hunk of junk in galaxy ready chewie.  +1 :banana:
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: matt on May 12, 2011, 03:12:29 PM
+1       Pe-2


                  flak :joystick: :airplane:
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: iron650 on May 13, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
Yes! +1 We need a Russian bomber after the Il-2 is now an attacker.  :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on September 06, 2011, 12:10:58 AM
If we ever get this aircraft I would like the air to air RS-82 rear rocket option. :rock These are the same ones the Russians added to their A-20's. :x

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/TU-2COHETESTRASEROS.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/pe-2-andreev-8.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/pe-2-andreev-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Tyrannis on September 06, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
why would anyone want more russian junk in this game?   :huh  :bolt:


Come at me internet  :angel:
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Skyguns MKII on September 06, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
If we ever get this aircraft I would like the air to air RS-82 rear rocket option. :rock These are the same ones the Russians added to their A-20's. :x

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/TU-2COHETESTRASEROS.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/pe-2-andreev-8.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/pe-2-andreev-1.jpg)

NOW THAT IS INTERESTING, GOT ANY PICS OF THAT A20?
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Charge on September 06, 2011, 01:52:27 AM
The wing profile in Pe-2 was relatively thin to make it fast and thus made it rather tricky to fly at the edge or at slow speed.

Petlyakov Pe-2I, root NACA 23012 tip: NACA 23012

However, the profile is of same thickness as that in Mossie (RAF-34 12%) so if it was modeled the same way it would probably be quite good.  ;)

-C+
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: guncrasher on September 06, 2011, 04:13:27 AM
great bring back a thread that has been dead for 5 months and had little interest back then.

semp
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: alpini13 on September 06, 2011, 11:18:25 AM
  +1 :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Liberator on September 06, 2011, 11:28:30 AM
+1 to the Pe-2, would be great to have in the game.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on September 06, 2011, 03:28:58 PM
NOW THAT IS INTERESTING, GOT ANY PICS OF THAT A20?
No I have only read about them the thread that it was posted on is no longer available it was a Russian site.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on September 06, 2011, 03:30:07 PM
great bring back a thread that has been dead for 5 months and had little interest back then.

semp
:neener:
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: mthrockmor on September 06, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
This strikes me as a manueverable, faster TBM-3 Avenger. Has less firepower in the nose, more in the tail, certainly more speed and 'turn and burn' quality. Roughly same payload sans rockets. Am I mistaken about this?

I would like to see it added though. It would be great to run some scenarios were the Russian/comrade/Communist side had a full compliment of scrap metal in the making. I hate the Russian birds, tough and deadly.

Boo
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: caldera on September 06, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
No way the Pe-2 is gonna out turn a TBM, mthrockmor.  It would be a nice versatile addition to the plane set.  +1  :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: HighTone on September 06, 2011, 08:41:03 PM
+1 for the Russian Birds...Italian and Japanese too  :aok
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on September 07, 2011, 02:56:32 PM
Based off this the first fixed type of rocket launching did not work. The next type was adjustable with aiming the gun that seemed to work.



(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/202bap-RSsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on August 14, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Not sure if this was the aircraft that did not get done in the past by HTC as there was not enough interior pictures.

If so this link should help.

http://en.calameo.com/read/0013529285b427292ae61
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Karnak on August 14, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
Not sure if this was the aircraft that did not get done in the past by HTC as there was not enough interior pictures.

If so this link should help.

http://en.calameo.com/read/0013529285b427292ae61
It was the Tu-2 that Pyro asked interior photos of.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on August 14, 2012, 05:42:52 PM
It was the Tu-2 that Pyro asked interior photos of.

I can do that & in colour as well only a few though. :aok

1st link only for interior shots.

http://en.calameo.com/read/0013529282e1647366c4e

http://en.calameo.com/read/0013529283e3b28de8755

Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: icepac on August 15, 2012, 09:10:51 AM
Flew it yesterday.

Dropped some guns with it and vulched someone upping to defend.
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: matt on August 15, 2012, 09:20:45 AM
+1
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on August 29, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
Book

http://www.scribd.com/doc/43801721/Petlyakov-Pe-2-From-www-jgokey-com
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Slade on August 29, 2012, 10:36:34 AM
+1 for the Pe-2  (right after the Ki-43, He-111)
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: Rob52240 on August 29, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
+1

More foreign planes. 
Title: Re: Petlyakov Pe-2
Post by: lyric1 on September 04, 2012, 02:25:24 AM
Great video of this aircraft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4gcII2afw&feature=relmfu