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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Reaper90 on May 07, 2011, 01:48:20 PM
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I know I've shot buildings many times before with a tank, and whether HE or AP, and my round always impacts the outside wall of a building that is "up" and does not penetrate or go through, and certainly was not (I thought) able to hit a vehicle inside said building (hanger).
So a few days ago I'm inside a VH in an M4/76, and a T-34 shoots through the center of the wall of the VH, not through a door opening, and 1-shot kills me. The VH was fully "up." I saw the round come through the wall, dead center, and hit me right in the side. OK, so maybe he couldn't see me through the wall, and it was just a lucky shot. Maybe he could see me, but how?
And is an AP round supposed to pass through the wall of a hanger that is "up" and be just as lethal on a target inside?
I was filming and can host and post film if this is something that is not supposed to happen and the person on the other end was "up to something." If it is possible given the game as it is designed, then disregard.
What say You, AH GV experts?
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i couldn't hit the VH, much less the gv parked inside of it... :uhoh
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if you notice ap rounds will go thru hangar walls and impact the other side of building. I have never gotten a kill because mine dont go thru, but I have watched plenty of other people shoot at hangars and notice the round going thru and impact on the other side of the base. I believe he rounds stop when they hit the wall.
semp
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if you notice ap rounds will go thru hangar walls and impact the other side of building. I have never gotten a kill because mine dont go thru, but I have watched plenty of other people shoot at hangars and notice the round going thru and impact on the other side of the base. I believe he rounds stop when they hit the wall.
semp
I always thought that was a side effect of lag and perspective.. i.e., I've seen AP rounds from friendly tanks go through an enemy tank, keep going, and hit the ground well past the enemy tank, but still kill the enemy tank. The guy behind the gun doing the firing saw the hit sprite, but I saw the round keep flying. I only saw the enemy tank die once the server told my computer the round hit and killed it.
But you're saying AP rounds will go through buildings and remain lethal to targets on the other side?
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I don't think it's supposed to work.
Back with the old city you could shoot through the blown up buildings and it was specifically changed so you no longer could with the new city.
I say bug.
wrongway
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killed a gv parked in an indestrucable one time with a 1000k bomb 22K up. Im pretty sure its possible if you can destroy a hanger then you can destroy whatever is in the hanger, walls or not
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The real bummer is when the auto ack streams rounds at you through buildings, always thought that was a bit weak IMO.
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Splash damage from HE rounds affect a certain radius regardless of what is there.
This is why HE round or bomb can kill a chuted out person hiding in the map room.
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IMO this is either due to a bug exploit, or flat out cheatINg (most likely the first).
Regardless, you should email the movie to HiTech and let them deal with it. Unfortunately you'll never know the outcome of their investigation (unless you see on the list in a future patch "Fixed a bug that allowed rounds to pass through the hangar") but talking about it on here will only get the thread locked.
I do know that HiTech doesn't take cheating attempts lightly and if that IS what was going on they WILL handle it. I completely agree with their policies regarding this and how they handle it.
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I always thought that was a side effect of lag and perspective.. i.e., I've seen AP rounds from friendly tanks go through an enemy tank, keep going, and hit the ground well past the enemy tank, but still kill the enemy tank. The guy behind the gun doing the firing saw the hit sprite, but I saw the round keep flying. I only saw the enemy tank die once the server told my computer the round hit and killed it.
But you're saying AP rounds will go through buildings and remain lethal to targets on the other side?
havent seen a tank killed in this fashion, but many times i have seen the round go thru the building and hit ground on the other side. which brings up another question if the round goes thru the first tank can it kill another tank behind it? has anybody seen it done?
semp
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The rounds going through buildings is simply a visual effect of the game. The round hits the building and stops at the first surface, but everyone who didn't fire said round sees it soar off until it hits the ground or vanishes out of range. Sort of the same deal with how AA-tanks can pretend to keep shooting after their turret is destroyed; if you're in a Wirble or Ostwind with a destroyed turret, hold your trigger down anyway. You won't see anything happening, but everyone else in the area will see tracers streaming out of your guns. Great diversion tactic if you stop your engine.
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i couldn't hit the VH, much less the gv parked inside of it... :uhoh
:aok
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WHAT !!!
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I've noticed many times when flying over towns being hit, that gv's rounds go through the buildings and beyond, though the building does take damage. (usually takes a 2 HE rounds to kill a building)
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Welcome to the world of different space time continuum.
The person who shot the round has the real one, it will not pass threw a building.
Everyone else sees a fake representation of that round that can not collide with anything but the ground.
HiTech
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Welcome to the world of different space time continuum.
The person who shot the round has the real one, it will not pass threw a building.
Everyone else sees a fake representation of that round that can not collide with anything but the ground.
HiTech
I'm going to email you guys the film, then. I went back and watched it, and the guy who it says killed me was not listed on the list of players in the area, so he must have been in a field gun, right? But the round definitely came through the wall of the hanger and hit me.... and within a minute or so of me being killed the text buffer credited him with landing 2 kills in a T-34.... I guess he ended sortie in the field gun and upped a T34, I just assumed when I saw the text buffer credit him with kills that I was one of those 2.... never-the-less, whatever killed me definitely shot me through the hanger wall.... could it have been a field ack that popped? Can they kill you through building walls? I know I've been hit by ack in thown that has had no line of sight on me.... but never been shot by one while hidden in a hanger....
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I've been having tank rounds I fire go right thru the side of the tank and hit the ground behind it. I see a very slight sparkle right where the round hits the tank but the tank gets no damage. A couple days ago I hit HellsAce 3 times this way in a Tiger. At 1500 ft. I was in an M4/76 shooting AP rounds.
It is from the side right at the bottom of the turret where it meets the body. Like the rounds go under the turret and over the body of the tank.
Has anyone else seen this? It is very very frustrating when you are close enough to watch a direct hit make a slight sparkle in the middle of the tank and do no damage.
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I've been having tank rounds I fire go right thru the side of the tank and hit the ground behind it. I see a very slight sparkle right where the round hits the tank but the tank gets no damage. A couple days ago I hit HellsAce 3 times this way in a Tiger. At 1500 ft. I was in an M4/76 shooting AP rounds.
It is from the side right at the bottom of the turret where it meets the body. Like the rounds go under the turret and over the body of the tank.
Has anyone else seen this? It is very very frustrating when you are close enough to watch a direct hit make a slight sparkle in the middle of the tank and do no damage.
I've been in a T-34 numerous times in the past and fired on M4s and Panzers inside of 800 yards (with the old sights too, and the enemy tank really filled the crosshairs, WAY too close to miss) and had time to get off 2 or 3 shots before they figured out where I was ...... and watched every single one of my rounds go through the enemy tank center mass and hit the ground on the other side and do no damage what-so-ever.... and then the enemy tank figures out where I'm hiding, turns, and 1-shot kills me. :mad: :furious
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At one time there was a bug that let you drive up to the VH wall and put the barrel through the wall and shoot inside the VH. You could camp this way, All you had to do was hear the engine start and fire. The bug was fixed pretty fast and as far as I know it don't work any more and has not for years now.
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I can't hit the broad side of a hanger.
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I'm going to email you guys the film, then. I went back and watched it, and the guy who it says killed me was not listed on the list of players in the area, so he must have been in a field gun, right? But the round definitely came through the wall of the hanger and hit me.... and within a minute or so of me being killed the text buffer credited him with landing 2 kills in a T-34.... I guess he ended sortie in the field gun and upped a T34, I just assumed when I saw the text buffer credit him with kills that I was one of those 2.... never-the-less, whatever killed me definitely shot me through the hanger wall.... could it have been a field ack that popped? Can they kill you through building walls? I know I've been hit by ack in thown that has had no line of sight on me.... but never been shot by one while hidden in a hanger....
every once in a while there's a bug that will credit a kill to somebody not near you or that wasnt even firing at you. once i augered a b26 and assi got the kill. it pissed me off since he had been on our side but when I checked the roster the was still on our side. this may have possibly happened to you. it doesnt happen very often but I've noticed it a couple of times.
semp
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I've been having tank rounds I fire go right thru the side of the tank and hit the ground behind it. I see a very slight sparkle right where the round hits the tank but the tank gets no damage. A couple days ago I hit HellsAce 3 times this way in a Tiger. At 1500 ft. I was in an M4/76 shooting AP rounds.
It is from the side right at the bottom of the turret where it meets the body. Like the rounds go under the turret and over the body of the tank.
Has anyone else seen this? It is very very frustrating when you are close enough to watch a direct hit make a slight sparkle in the middle of the tank and do no damage.
Sounds like a ricochet to me.
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I've been having tank rounds I fire go right thru the side of the tank and hit the ground behind it. I see a very slight sparkle right where the round hits the tank but the tank gets no damage. A couple days ago I hit HellsAce 3 times this way in a Tiger. At 1500 ft. I was in an M4/76 shooting AP rounds.
It is from the side right at the bottom of the turret where it meets the body. Like the rounds go under the turret and over the body of the tank.
Has anyone else seen this? It is very very frustrating when you are close enough to watch a direct hit make a slight sparkle in the middle of the tank and do no damage.
I saw the same exact thing while practicing/testing the new tank updates.
I was at approx the same distance shooting at the Tiger on the field. Placed the round right between the turret and body ... saw a small spark ... and could see the round hit behind the tank with the ground effect poof of dust.
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I saw the same exact thing while practicing/testing the new tank updates.
I was at approx the same distance shooting at the Tiger on the field. Placed the round right between the turret and body ... saw a small spark ... and could see the round hit behind the tank with the ground effect poof of dust.
I have seen it happen more on Tigers. Its not a ricochet, the round never changes direction. As well its a direct hit in the middle of the side profile of the tank.
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Welcome to the world of different space time continuum.
The person who shot the round has the real one, it will not pass threw a building.
Everyone else sees a fake representation of that round that can not collide with anything but the ground.
HiTech
here's explained why it happens.
semp
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here's explained why it happens.
semp
it does?
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here's explained why it happens.
semp
It doesn't explain what I saw.